Seriously. Racist debates are getting boring.

Long story short, we're all here for the entertainment. Can we do something else now? How about another liberal vs conservative meme for starters?

I'd rather discuss something historical.

the white liberal vs black conservative

Hahaha, sign me up, >>3.

LIBERALS ARE BETTER
PRO CHOICE OR GTFO

>>1
Hallelujah

We're gonna talk about whatever anti-chan wants to talk about. And you all know what THAT is... orz

JEWS MAKE RACIST THREADS

I hat3 niggers

how about the REAL definition of conservatism
how about the REAL definition of Liberalism.

Conservatism is the "less is more" mentality of politics, meaning that they want as little govenment obstruction of peoples lives as possible.  anything more than the government having basic military, police power (procicuting murderers, rapists, thieves, etc), and civil litigation(person A thinks person B owes them money and sues for it, govenment decides case) anything more does not belong in a pure conservative ideal.
(Anarchism can be seen as an extreem form of conservatism that doesn't even cover these three things)

Liberalism is the idea that the govenment needs to step into social, fiscal, and other matters of a private individuals because they either can't or won't manage these areas on their own.  this incudes anything that doesn't fall under conservatism  such as government control of food distubution, medical care, or redistribution of wealth through taxes, or little things like road construction, subsidies, employment laws, etc.  Communism would be an economic system based on the liberal political theory(communism is not a political system, but it requires a liberal politial ideal, in which the government assumes that people can't handle much of anything on their own and takes over for them).

  The U.S. govenment btw was founded on the idea of conservatism and the theory that if you give the govenment an inch and it takes a mile.  And therefore you want the govenment to stay out of citizens life as much as possible.  we are moving more and more towards a liberal idea of govenment where we have more and more interventon every day....also democrat and republican parties:  both liberal.. the democrats are fiscally liberal, meaning they want more control over the financial institutions of the country, the republicans are socially liberal meaning they tend to go after private affair control more.  either way you are totally fucked because whichever one the govenment takes control of first leads to the other one falling, although historically fiscally liberal government has been able to take complete control faster (communist russia, communist cuba, socialist nazi germany, etc.)    OK any thoughts on this

>>10
Fuck you

Liberal = Democrat
Conservative = Republican

2 party system FTW. As we all know, through the miracle of politics the 2 best possible solutions to rule the US(and possibly the world) emerge in the form of 2 political parties, 2 political camps, it's a natural law. If you don't belong in  one of those 2 camps, you are a freak of nature.

are you really saying that of all the political ideas in the world that we have republican and democrat on top, and that one of them is the best in the world and one is the second best???  btw.  on the founding of our nation there were to political parties democrats and whigs,

liberal ==wigs(actually wanted to put a king in place because people were to stupid to be able to vote for the right person)
conservative ==democrats(wanted a system where politicians were put into power from votes by the people.

so y did democrats change sides when republicans came around

Relevant to today.

>>11
Remember 04? Your flawless 2 party system screwed us out of a decent presidency there. Maybe if there were more options this country wouldn't be in such a douchebaggy state....

>>10
Liberalism is the word America uses for the left these days, but socialism is a better term for the kind of leftist government intervention you describe. Real liberals--the founders of "classical" liberalism--were certainly against such intervention. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

The Democrats are an (evil) concoction of socialism, liberalism and egalitarianism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism

>>12
actually our nation was founded on the basis there was no political parties...george washington  actually warned the people about the rise of political parties and he also strongly discourged the formation of them.

>>16
Yeh, that's why 1/3 to 1/2 of them voted with the Repubs for the last 7 years?  Get another chip on your shoulder.  There's no practical difference between the two parties in the USA.  If there's all this Socialism in the system, then the Repubs want it there too.

>>16
that's weird, three forces of good make evil

Republicrats and Democans are the same fucking thing. One will strip the military and make you defenseless and the other will strip rights based on religion.

Choose your poison.

I HATE NIGGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I don't know about you guys, but I quite like niggers.

>>22
That's only because you're a nigger yourself. GTFO

FUCK NIGGERS

Niggers are fun and interesting. 

>>17
Strange, how no one heeded his words despite his popularity.   He was dead right.  Now there is 2 parties that are but different shades of the same color.  It is a shame how many people died to fight for ideas that are now being discarded for the thing they were against.

>>11
Wow, you're completely ignoring the large sections of the population that call themselves liberal Republicans or conservative Democrats (the latter are much more common).

The way the two-party system operates in this country is founded in a fallacy that everyone learns in Logic 101: False Dilemma. The idea that there are two options only is inherently wrong.

Vote regressive. Abortion should be illegal, but not baby-killing.

>>28
gb2/maddox