Racial Responsibility? What the Fuck?

O.k., I am recapping off of my last thread and the other new threads dealing with such subjects [in euphemism] as the 'stereotypical universal B.O. of Arab peoples' and '"What If" Slavery of Blacks was Reinstated as a Legal Institution' and there seems to be some reoccuring themes in the [il]logic of those who argue for the supremacy/pride/nationalism/genocide/subjugation/etc. of various races on all sides...

 [...I've seen forums in which it has literally turned into a White vs. Black vs. Yellow debate in which the racist Whites accuse ALL Blacks of inferiority and universal problem-making, the racist Blacks accuse ALL Whites of universally instituted racism and holding them back and the racist Yellows accuse the Whites AND Blacks of genetically objective inferiority [see: Wikipedia article on 'Race and Intelligence'] and themselves of being the true superior peoples of humanity... Egh, at least to me, all of these people just seem likepeople needing a lesson in objectivity playing out old evolutionarily primate neuro-script under the guise of objectivity and 'intellectualism'...]

...of this conflict. One of these themes is the theory that because a person is of a certain skin color, they are instantly and undeniably universally responsible AND A PART OF the actions of other people of that same skin color, whether positive or negative. Some of the arguments I've seen from various people who spout this 'Racial Responsibility' as if it was as absolute and irrefutable as the loads of other ignorance they consider true are...

From Racist Whites = "We Anglo-Saxxons have practically carried the Western World, European AND American on our backs. Economic, Scientific, Philosophic, Literary... all us. We have the Magna Carta. Shakespeare. Quantum Physics, the Constitution... all of it. All these inferior races have... what? Nothing." Analysis: So, based upon this logic of ability based on race, you're able to  recite all of Shakespeare's sonnets and plays, explain the structure and significance of Iambic Pentameter, explain the full spectrum of mathematic, physical and theoretical principles surrounding quantum mechanics and apparently do anything that anyone who's white has ever done... AND YOU WERE THERE AT THE MAGNA CARTA, TOO? WOW!

From Racist Blacks = Usually there is a mentioning of how their musical traditions have been stolen by Whites. Everything from original tribal beats to original Rock&Roll to Raggae to Funk to House to Disco to Jazz has been co-opted... Unh-huh... Same analysis, write and perform a song of the genres mentioned here based upon your obvious ability to do so as a black person and THEN talk to me.

You get my point people.

Discuss... rationally, please.

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1. This is ridiculous. Mexicans don't have any right to the United States. Give me a break. Go home traitor.

2. I can't express to you a unique Greek culture either. It changes, and it's different for certain levels of SES and parts of the country. Yet all Greeks know they are Greek, and white people know they are white people, even if they are still evolving culturally and genetically. You want a deductive proof for something inductive. Considering the fact that now our physics necessarily relies on probability, i.e. quantum physics, I can't give you a newtonian model of race, just as I can't give you a newtonian model of the universe. But, I don't say the universe doesn't exist. I don't say that Greeks don't exist either. What does white mean? Well, here is the definition of white.

Who may be a member: Due to the generally deplorable understanding of race, it is necessary for us to emphasize that White people are the descendants of all historically European peoples, including the Irish, Slavs, Spaniards, Italians, Greeks, as well as the Germanic, Scandinavian, and Anglo-Saxon peoples, etc., so long as there is no discernible trace of non-White admixture. National Vanguard celebrates the cultural diversity of the White race. Our beautiful languages, traditions, and cultures are a strength. We are pan-European in our views and stand unconditionally opposed to conflicts between White peoples. Outside forces often exploit one White ethnicity against another. We do not excuse anti-White hatreds or historical "scores", and will consistently work towards reconciliation and unity in places such as the Balkans and Northern Ireland. Our watchword is no more brothers' wars.

Ok, there's a definition of white for you. Pretty clear cut.

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a. Ok, I've taken two years of logic. I'm taken 5 years of philosophy, math, and computer science. I get A's and B's and I'm hoping one day to get my doctor. I'm sorry, I don't sense any logical inconsistency here. You merely want to disagree with any definitions you don't like. You also want to ignore common sense; I guess it's just too common for anti-whites, excuse me, anti-'racists' with a stick shoved up their ass. If Godel's incompleteness theorem is taken into account, any axiomatic system cannot be proven within that system, instead it requires another system to prove it and so on and so on. Also, if you take a postmodernist view into account combined with sociology, everything is either a social construct or a myth, even science according to the strong program, so there's no objective knowledge there either. I've always considered it funny that sociologists claim to be objective, when they themselves claim there is no real objective thing, just fads really.

As for me, I think that is total hogwash. I've got a definition of white. I use it. It works. When you set out the definition of white to white people, from anywhere in the world, they seem to understand that they are white, sort of like people understand that they are Greek when they know what the definition of greek is.

b. Holy crap. Not again with the anti-white bias. This is positively nuts. Look, minorities in ANY country are mistreated by majorities. But, you're going to have minorities and majorities. Minorities live off the good will of majorities. White people have been pretty darn benelovent, and recently they have been benevolent to the point where they are self destructive. This is not healthy. I want to retain the character of my nation, and the set of culture that goes with it. Sorry, if that was not included in your invasion plans, and you just decided that I should lay down and die because I have a conflict of interest with you. Quite frankly, you should go live somewhere else if you are so hostile to the natives of white countries. It would be much better for you, and it would be much better for us. There is no reason for you to spend time around us if you have such hostility, arrogance, and negative attitude towards us. I'm certain you could go somewhere in this world and have peace of mind, but it's not going to be in a white country. No matter how much you go on about how evil we are, we're not going to take it forever, and you will become very unpopular at that point, and I have a distinct feeling that there are going to be quite a few that remember your attitude, behavior, and words. So, either get that stick out of your ass, and get off your high horse, or leave and go somewhere where you do not have to attack the interests of white people. If you feel so conflicted by white people, avoid us, please.

I'm not interested in world domination here. I'm interested in keeping my country, my country. I'm interested in preserving the culture and the ideas of my forefathers. I'm interested in making sure, the native people of this country, which are white since it is a country that was founded by white people for white people, relatively native. There is plenty of space on this world. White people are relatively few in number. If you want to go somewhere, where there are no white people it is quite easy. I would suggest you do so.