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Racial Responsibility? What the Fuck?

Name: Vrendi 2006-04-23 13:49

O.k., I am recapping off of my last thread and the other new threads dealing with such subjects [in euphemism] as the 'stereotypical universal B.O. of Arab peoples' and '"What If" Slavery of Blacks was Reinstated as a Legal Institution' and there seems to be some reoccuring themes in the [il]logic of those who argue for the supremacy/pride/nationalism/genocide/subjugation/etc. of various races on all sides...

 [...I've seen forums in which it has literally turned into a White vs. Black vs. Yellow debate in which the racist Whites accuse ALL Blacks of inferiority and universal problem-making, the racist Blacks accuse ALL Whites of universally instituted racism and holding them back and the racist Yellows accuse the Whites AND Blacks of genetically objective inferiority [see: Wikipedia article on 'Race and Intelligence'] and themselves of being the true superior peoples of humanity... Egh, at least to me, all of these people just seem likepeople needing a lesson in objectivity playing out old evolutionarily primate neuro-script under the guise of objectivity and 'intellectualism'...]

...of this conflict. One of these themes is the theory that because a person is of a certain skin color, they are instantly and undeniably universally responsible AND A PART OF the actions of other people of that same skin color, whether positive or negative. Some of the arguments I've seen from various people who spout this 'Racial Responsibility' as if it was as absolute and irrefutable as the loads of other ignorance they consider true are...

From Racist Whites = "We Anglo-Saxxons have practically carried the Western World, European AND American on our backs. Economic, Scientific, Philosophic, Literary... all us. We have the Magna Carta. Shakespeare. Quantum Physics, the Constitution... all of it. All these inferior races have... what? Nothing." Analysis: So, based upon this logic of ability based on race, you're able to  recite all of Shakespeare's sonnets and plays, explain the structure and significance of Iambic Pentameter, explain the full spectrum of mathematic, physical and theoretical principles surrounding quantum mechanics and apparently do anything that anyone who's white has ever done... AND YOU WERE THERE AT THE MAGNA CARTA, TOO? WOW!

From Racist Blacks = Usually there is a mentioning of how their musical traditions have been stolen by Whites. Everything from original tribal beats to original Rock&Roll to Raggae to Funk to House to Disco to Jazz has been co-opted... Unh-huh... Same analysis, write and perform a song of the genres mentioned here based upon your obvious ability to do so as a black person and THEN talk to me.

You get my point people.

Discuss... rationally, please.

Name: Anonymous 2006-05-05 6:48

>>55

1. Wrong. Given what >>57 thinks apparently America is "the white homeland". Hahaha, keep telling yourselves this as Mestizos continue to make the same case the Jews made for "rights of return". That very deluded perception alone, coupled with this shallow and hallow perception of your own "whiteness" guantees you white privalege. Maintaining the status quo means maintaining white privalege. They are inseperatable ideas. There's no room for your status quo in a country that had ideologically committed itself to treating everyone equally. Your problem isn't with minorities. It's with democracy itself.

2. Strange. You claim it's not an nebulous idea and yet you still can't seem to express the exact guidelines for "Whiteness". Just like I can't express to you precisely what "Blackness" is. This is because the culture of whiteness or blackness isn't exclusive to whites or blacks alone. At least not in the west. However, a Zulu or a Greek can express to you exactly what it means to be Zulu or Greek- and you might even find similarities in the way they percieve their identities.

3. But I don't believe you. Again, history paints a very different picture than the one you're dogmatically pontificating upon. Maybe these other whites are so horrified because your white nationalist fervor stem from flaw logic and fundamental hazy notions of "whiteness". Your ideals are not acceptable nor compatable to western values because they implictly deny any avenue of a change in the status quo. The west is about the constant reshaping of status quo. That's why we're stronger than the east.

Or have you forgotten?

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