anti-american movement

wanna start one?

I've thought about an American Revolution and I feel there are too many who are apathetic to fight for anything, those who do wish to fight will squabble and bicker, and the rest will be swayed by propoganda telling people that the rebels are evil terrorists.  Along with the guns being either in the hands of law enforcement and the military or extremist militias and hate groups, the violence will be chaotic and widespread, while gun owners who have a couple firearms for self-defense will lack direction or coordination to make a difference.  Only chaos will triumph.

>>1

Its already there, called the UN...

>>3

And guess what, U.S. is a part of UN as well. Why don't you guys just get the fuck out if you think it's so anti-american.

FUCK AMERICANIS

I am not american. Therefore by definition i am already part of that movement. :D

America = Terrorist

Shoot Nukes Not SAM-U-El-JACK-SON

azns have sad, small, weenies.

>>8
 haha that pretty summarised the thread :D. the end. move on.

the English government captures an average London citizen through some digital means about 300 times daily through city-wide monitering. Canada Threw an Edmonton man in jail over fictional drawings. Most of Europe is censoring the internet to some degree (ogrish and nazi sites). French guest worker programs have helped spurned on riots, and the EU is imposing far reaching policies involving agriculture and labor, which have angered millions.

>>10
That's fucking stupid.  Europe is a fucking paradise compared to the United States of Amerikkka.  Universal helthcare anybody?  Or would you rather just die on the streets without anybody caring what happens to you? 

Those problems you mentioned are drops in the bucket compared to US's problems.  Infant mortality in the industrialized world?  Crime?  UNEQUAL RIGHTS?  Yeah, right, america-man.  You have got all the room in the world to talk about europe's problems.

Why don't you just go back to kentucky, arkansas and sodomize your homeboys in the back of your log cabin?

>>11
In europe you don't even have the freedom to become a multi-billionaire, even if you move to Monaco you have to pay tax.

>>11
"Or would you rather just die on the streets without anybody caring what happens to you?"

You obviously don't know a damn thing about US hospitals.  Think, lame brain, why hospital around the US borders are closing.  Those damn illegals sure as hell don't have money for health care.

>>11
 hahah awesome. please post more in the "enrich uranium" thread. we need ppl like you.

>>11
keep bitching, your government and the EU want you to focus your protests on the US while they invade your privacy, limit your freedoms of expression and speech, and screw over normal Europeans  while favoring big business and government officals.

your net is being censored and some art is banned, but hey you've got universal healthcare right? What's you tax rate by the way?

>>12
 and i bet you're gonna go become one very soon in the future i bet. there's a reason for taxes. can't you see that capitalism hasn't worked? the bellcurve for the rich and the poor has just moved onto a global scale cos' of freetrade. nothing is changed. coorporations has not benefited society instead, shits like enron and other giant multi-billion dollar criminals are dictating what we see, what we hear,  our choices and spoon feeding us with rubbish that's been censored by tom cruise. heard of the invisible hand little boy? this is why all our shit is getting outsourced to india and we've got no1 else to blame but the market, america and ourselves.

not that outsourcing to india is a bad thing, fundamentally it'll help evolve our workforce and increase their lvl of spending. in theory that is.

as for the ignorant american cunt in >>13, "those damn illegals sure as hell don't have money for health care." you goddamn right! just grew a brain and started stating the obvious little lad? all comes down to tax payers funded hospital care. give the migrants a job, and they'll pay taxes and thus pay ther way through health care. take away the basic healthy coverage, they'll be stealing and struggle to survive in order to just make ends meet, let alone goto a hospital. and ends are not going to meet like a motherfucker.

>>16

Sigh, Eurotrash talking about crap they know nothing about.  Most states have basic healthcare, you just won't get the expensive stuff for free.

Yes, Europe is only good "in comparison" to the US. But you guys don't seem to grasp that there are global powers in place that are slowly but surely enclosing on us all. All this bickering amoung countries places into their hands.

>>18
CAPITALISM HASN'T WORKED, LETS TRY COMMUNISM BECAUSE IT'S FLIPPIN' SWEET!

>>16  
Tax is another method of control.  At least capitalistic forces don't have the authority to take your money by force.

>>19

That's not what I said. The global power I'm referring to are both capitalist and communists at once. Proof of their boot on your throat is that half-assed reply.

>>19
Without capitalism you wouldn't be sittin there typin all that over the int4rweb.

>>15
lets not even go into tax rate mate. i'm happpy to pay greater tax   for higher standard of living. oh wait, usa doens't make it to that "top 10 country to live in" survey as conducted by the Economists. so much for your capitalism, fascist regime.

>>20
take your money by force? tried evading tax have you? and got away with it scot free? do elaborate.

>>18
the only logical and reasonable response. perhaps you are right.

>>23
"...usa doens't [sic] make it to that 'top 10 country to live in'..."

Where the link to this information?  According to the HDI, you're full of crap.

http://www.infoplease.com/toptens/leastcorruptcountries.html
see america on this list? NOT

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0778562.html

This is the list you're looking for, dumbass.  It's even on the same website!  I wasn't asking for which countries was the least corrupt.

its really quite simple folks:

-don't watch US movies
-don't watch US tv programs
-don't listen to US music
-don't buy US products (i.e. anything from Microsoft, Apple, or anything based on IBM)

let he who is without sin cast the first stone, motherfuckers! BWAAA!

>>26

education and healthcare are keeping the US back and its still ranked higher than the UK France and Germany according to those factors listed.

but then Soccor riots would severely shorten lifespans ^_^

>>27

-don't use the US taxpayer funded Internet

Top ten least corrupt countries.

1. Iceland, 100% white liberal democracy
2. Finland, 100% white liberal democracy
3. New Zealand, 75% white 15% indigenous 5% pacific islander 5% asian liberal democracy
4. Denmark, 96% white 2% asian liberal democracy
5. Singapore, 100% asian authoritarian democracy
6. Sweden, 100% white liberal democracy
7. Switzerland, 99% white liberal democracy
8. Norway, 90% white liberal democracy
9. Australia, 92% white, 7% asian white liberal democracy
10. Austria, 96% white 3% turkoman liberal democracy

(liberal in the classical liberal/libertarian sense, not the corrupted american slang for socialist)

02/03/05 "ICH"  - - No concept lies more firmly embedded in our national character than the notion that the USA is "No. 1," "the greatest." Our broadcast media are, in essence, continuous advertisements for the brand name "America Is No. 1." Any office seeker saying otherwise would be committing political suicide. In fact, anyone saying otherwise will be labeled "un-American." We're an "empire," ain't we? Sure we are. An empire without a manufacturing base. An empire that must borrow $2 billion a day from its competitors in order to function. Yet the delusion is ineradicable. We're No. 1. Well...this is the country you really live in:

The United States is 49th in the world in literacy (the New York Times, Dec. 12, 2004).
The United States ranked 28th out of 40 countries in mathematical literacy (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).
Twenty percent of Americans think the sun orbits the earth. Seventeen percent believe the earth revolves around the sun once a day (The Week, Jan. 7, 2005).
"The International Adult Literacy Survey...found that Americans with less than nine years of education 'score worse than virtually all of the other countries'" (Jeremy Rifkin's superbly documented book The European Dream: How Europe's Vision of the Future Is Quietly Eclipsing the American Dream, p.78).
Our workers are so ignorant and lack so many basic skills that American businesses spend $30 billion a year on remedial training (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004). No wonder they relocate elsewhere!
"The European Union leads the U.S. in...the number of science and engineering graduates; public research and development (R&D) expenditures; and new capital raised" (The European Dream, p.70).
"Europe surpassed the United States in the mid-1990s as the largest producer of scientific literature" (The European Dream, p.70).
Nevertheless, Congress cut funds to the National Science Foundation. The agency will issue 1,000 fewer research grants this year (NYT, Dec. 21, 2004).
Foreign applications to U.S. grad schools declined 28 percent last year. Foreign student enrollment on all levels fell for the first time in three decades, but increased greatly in Europe and China. Last year Chinese grad-school graduates in the U.S. dropped 56 percent, Indians 51 percent, South Koreans 28 percent (NYT, Dec. 21, 2004). We're not the place to be anymore.
The World Health Organization "ranked the countries of the world in terms of overall health performance, and the U.S. [was]...37th." In the fairness of health care, we're 54th. "The irony is that the United States spends more per capita for health care than any other nation in the world" (The European Dream, pp.79-80). Pay more, get lots, lots less.
"The U.S. and South Africa are the only two developed countries in the world that do not provide health care for all their citizens" (The European Dream, p.80). Excuse me, but since when is South Africa a "developed" country? Anyway, that's the company we're keeping.
Lack of health insurance coverage causes 18,000 unnecessary American deaths a year. (That's six times the number of people killed on 9/11.) (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005.)
"U.S. childhood poverty now ranks 22nd, or second to last, among the developed nations. Only Mexico scores lower" (The European Dream, p.81). Been to Mexico lately? Does it look "developed" to you? Yet it's the only "developed" country to score lower in childhood poverty.
Twelve million American families--more than 10 percent of all U.S. households--"continue to struggle, and not always successfully, to feed themselves." Families that "had members who actually went hungry at some point last year" numbered 3.9 million (NYT, Nov. 22, 2004).
The United States is 41st in the world in infant mortality. Cuba scores higher (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005).
Women are 70 percent more likely to die in childbirth in America than in Europe (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005).
The leading cause of death of pregnant women in this country is murder (CNN, Dec. 14, 2004).
"Of the 20 most developed countries in the world, the U.S. was dead last in the growth rate of total compensation to its workforce in the 1980s.... In the 1990s, the U.S. average compensation growth rate grew only slightly, at an annual rate of about 0.1 percent" (The European Dream, p.39). Yet Americans work longer hours per year than any other industrialized country, and get less vacation time.
"Sixty-one of the 140 biggest companies on the Global Fortune 500 rankings are European, while only 50 are U.S. companies" (The European Dream, p.66). "In a recent survey of the world's 50 best companies, conducted by Global Finance, all but one were European" (The European Dream, p.69).
"Fourteen of the 20 largest commercial banks in the world today are European.... In the chemical industry, the European company BASF is the world's leader, and three of the top six players are European. In engineering and construction, three of the top five companies are European.... The two others are Japanese. Not a single American engineering and construction company is included among the world's top nine competitors. In food and consumer products, Nestlé and Unilever, two European giants, rank first and second, respectively, in the world. In the food and drugstore retail trade, two European companies...are first and second, and European companies make up five of the top ten. Only four U.S. companies are on the list" (The European Dream, p.68).
The United States has lost 1.3 million jobs to China in the last decade (CNN, Jan. 12, 2005).
U.S. employers eliminated 1 million jobs in 2004 (The Week, Jan. 14, 2005).
Three million six hundred thousand Americans ran out of unemployment insurance last year; 1.8 million--one in five--unemployed workers are jobless for more than six months (NYT, Jan. 9, 2005).
Japan, China, Taiwan, and South Korea hold 40 percent of our government debt. (That's why we talk nice to them.) "By helping keep mortgage rates from rising, China has come to play an enormous and little-noticed role in sustaining the American housing boom" (NYT, Dec. 4, 2004). Read that twice. We owe our housing boom to China, because they want us to keep buying all that stuff they manufacture.
Sometime in the next 10 years Brazil will probably pass the U.S. as the world's largest agricultural producer. Brazil is now the world's largest exporter of chickens, orange juice, sugar, coffee, and tobacco. Last year, Brazil passed the U.S. as the world's largest beef producer. (Hear that, you poor deluded cowboys?) As a result, while we bear record trade deficits, Brazil boasts a $30 billion trade surplus (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).
As of last June, the U.S. imported more food than it exported (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).
Bush: 62,027,582 votes. Kerry: 59,026,003 votes. Number of eligible voters who didn't show up: 79,279,000 (NYT, Dec. 26, 2004). That's more than a third. Way more. If more than a third of Iraqis don't show for their election, no country in the world will think that election legitimate.
One-third of all U.S. children are born out of wedlock. One-half of all U.S. children will live in a one-parent house (CNN, Dec. 10, 2004).
"Americans are now spending more money on gambling than on movies, videos, DVDs, music, and books combined" (The European Dream, p.28).
"Nearly one out of four Americans [believe] that using violence to get what they want is acceptable" (The European Dream, p.32).
Forty-three percent of Americans think torture is sometimes justified, according to a PEW Poll (Associated Press, Aug. 19, 2004).
"Nearly 900,000 children were abused or neglected in 2002, the last year for which such data are available" (USA Today, Dec. 21, 2004).
"The International Association of Chiefs of Police said that cuts by the [Bush] administration in federal aid to local police agencies have left the nation more vulnerable than ever" (USA Today, Nov. 17, 2004).
No. 1? In most important categories we're not even in the Top 10 anymore. Not even close.

The USA is "No. 1" in nothing but weaponry, consumer spending, debt, and delusion.

In a speech at the Republican National Convention in 2004, President Bush referred to the United States as "the greatest country in the world". Certainly this is a sentiment that many Americans share, but what kind of objective basis is there behind the statement? It’s time to take a closer look. Do we make the pronouncement because we are the wealthiest nation in the world? Based on Gross Domestic Product per capita, in 2003 we were not first but fourth. Luxembourg at $43,940 was considerably ahead of the US ($36,000) by a 17% margin. Norway and Switzerland were in between. Most of us believe we have the highest standard of living in the world. But according to the UN Human Development Report of 2004, their list of the world’s most livable countries show the US in eighth place, four places behind Canada, and trailing Norway and Sweden in first and second place.

Is our judgment based on the belief that the US is a paragon of democracy and freedom in the world? In 2003, World Audit, an international non-profit organization, computed the relative level of democracy of 149 countries with population greater than one million. Analyzing data from a number of human rights organizations, they developed a formula that factored in levels of personal, political and press freedoms, as well as human rights. The results? On the list of top ten, the US was last, just behind Canada, and with all three Scandinavian countries leading.

Has our perception been that our democracy means equal rights for all? Economically, the case is hard to make. In the US, over the past thirty years, wealth inequality has nearly doubled. At present, 20 percent of the people control 80 percent of the wealth, and of all the major industrialized nations, we are the most unequal. According to the World Bank’s World Development Index of 2002, the US doesn’t even appear in the top thirty of greatest equality, which includes the three Scandinavian countries and Japan in the top ten.

Worldwide, the proportion of income for the wealthiest one-fifth of the earth’s population compared to the poorest one-fifth dropped from 30 to 1 in 1960, to 59 to 1 in 1989, according to the UN Development Program. This trend has not only continued since then, but is also reflected nationally. The middle class is shrinking. Fact Check confirmed this, and that the lower class is growing as a result.

Do we believe that we enjoy the best standard of health and health care in the world? Hardly. Surprisingly, we (at 6.6 deaths per 1,000 live births) do not appear in the list of the lowest ten infant mortality rates in the world, which is topped by Singapore, and followed by Sweden, Japan, Iceland, Finland and Norway. Even more surprising, neither do we (with 77.4 years, both sexes) appear in the list of top ten in highest life expectancy. It includes Japan, Sweden, Switzerland, Canada and Iceland. Much of this has to do with the rich-poor gap and the selective availability of health care in our privatized system. Forty four million Americans are going without costly health insurance while premiums continue to escalate. According to 2001 World Health Organization statistics, the U.S. ranked a lowly 37th in the world for health care, between Costa Rica and Slovenia, and trailing all other industrialized nations.

Is our national pride based upon the perception that as the only superpower we are the world’s primary caretaker? Another illusion. Of the 21 wealthiest nations in the world, we are in last place in percentage of national income devoted to aiding less fortunate nations. That was less than 1/7th of one percent, according to the late Paul Simon, former Senator and Director of the Public Policy Institute in his 1998 book, Tapped Out. Denmark, Norway, Netherlands and even Saudi Arabia donated seven times what we did, he said. And the trend has continued.

In other terms, we are giving only 13 cents for every $100 of income. Furthermore, when we look at who actually receives this "aid", we wonder how much of it is actually meant for humanitarian purposes; Russian was the top recipient in 2001-2002, followed by Egypt, Israel and Pakistan in second, third and fourth place respectively. Colombia was in sixth place and Peru in tenth. If we subtracted what was effectively used for political leverage, military advantage, economic interests or an alleged war on drugs, how much would truly be left for genuine aid and development?

Are we persisting in the belief that our system is the most honest, transparent and least susceptible to corruption there is? Here comes disillusionment. According to the organization Transparency International, the U.S. scored a lowly 19th on their 2003 list (a three place fall from the year before) with a 7.5 CPI (Corruption Perception Index). Finland, Iceland and Denmark were the top three, with Norway, Sweden, Canada, the U.K. and Australia all in the top eleven. The next place on the list following the U.S., interestingly enough, was Chili.

Have we insisted that the U.S. is the best place in the world to live? According to the UN Human Development Index for 2004, the U.S. places only eighth on the list of most livable countries. First through fourth place went to Norway, Sweden, Australia and Canada.

With all these sobering statistics, do we wonder, are we first at anything? Yes, we are. For starters, we lead the world in energy consumption. North America consumes more energy than any other continent. By 2000 estimates, North America consumed 121 quadrillion Btu compared to South Asia and Asia-Pacific with 107, Europe third with 88 and Russia fourth with 34. On a country by country basis, the U.S. by a 2002 estimate consumed 98.03 quadrillion Btu in primary (all sources) energy, compared to China in second place with 43.18. Russia was in third place with 27.54, followed by Japan, Germany, India and Canada. The U.S. represents only six percent of the world’s population, but uses 33% of the world’s energy production. A child born in the U.S. today over his or her lifetime will use five times the energy of a child born in the developing world.

The U.S. has the highest annual water use per capita in the world at 525,000 gallons, according to a 1990 estimate. This is more than twice the world average of 165,000 gallons. By comparison, Nicaragua’s figure is 72,000 per person per year. According to another estimate, the average American uses three times more water in a day than a European, and twenty times more than an African.

It follows that as the world’s leading consumers, we are also first in the world as polluters. The United States spews 1,500,000 tons of carbon dioxide annually into the air, more than that released by China, Argentina, Spain and Japan combined. The U.S. alone is responsible for a quarter of the world’s total industrial CO2 emissions, and computed on a per capita basis, the United States leads the world in sulfur dioxide emissions as well. An average American citizen will produce 52 tons of garbage by the age of 75.

Environmental impact of any individual upon the planet in terms of the amount of resources that person uses has been quantified under a system gaining wide acceptance, termed the "ecological footprint". The ecological footprint of the average individual of any particular country can be computed according to a formula developed by Mathis Wackernael, et al, of Redefining Progress, which employs over 200 categories in its calculations. Their final result is summed up and expressed in terms of hectares or acres per average citizen. This methodology was used to compute the footprints of 151 nations, per average citizen. The maximum carrying capacity of the earth was computed as 4.45 acres per person. An average world citizen uses 5.4, over twenty percent in excess of carrying capacity. The U.S. now tops the list of highest ecological footprint at 23.7 acres per person, over five times the barely sustainable level. By contrast, Bangladesh and Mozambique have footprints of 1.3 acres per capita.

Similarly, a new study by researchers at Yale and Columbia, in collaboration with the World Economic Forum, generated an index of global environmental stewardship of 146 nations. The U.S. ranked a lowly 45th on the list for environmental protection. 136 other countries and regional economic groups signed the international Kyoto agreement on global warming. But the U.S. abstained.

This wanton and unsustainable consumption also leads to another first for the U.S., and a new one - the most obese country in the world. It is a problem that is escalating as well, and portends darkly, especially for our children. According to a 2000 Associated Press report, 55 percent of the U.S. population are overweight. Today, one in four American adults and one in six children are obese. By comparison, 56 percent of the population of Bangladesh is underweight and 53 percent in India.

So in conclusion, americans are fat, ignorant, arrogant, deluded, brainwashed pigs who like to whine more than the french.

"...whine more than the french."

That's impossible.

>>31

Copy pasta from:

http://www.citypages.com/databank/26/1264/article12985.asp

Please think of something new or get the actual links to these stats.

>>34
Not if you are an American. God damn, they whine. The french are fucking chilled out relative to Americans.

>>32

Copy pasta from:

http://www.towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/594/54/

Can't you think up your own arguments instead of copying others and pretending that these ideas are yours?

>>35
>>37
Did I ever say that those ideas were mine? On second thought, they aren't even ideas. They are hard FACTS. So sucks to be you Americans.

thechristmasconspiracy.com

>>38

If you don't cite your sources, it is to be presumed that what you post is yours.  Besides, what you copied has facts that are out of date, retard.

>>33

This whole fucking thread is nothing but whining about Americans, other threads are whining about Americans, so pay attention... YOU'RE THE ONES WHINING. Besides you're using an American OS right now, so try not to sound like a complete idiot.

And Europeans don't tip worth shit

>>1
I'm in

>>30
Clarify.  You mean liberal as in, liberal VS libertarian, or liberal SLASH libertarian? 

>>41
hooray so what we use an american product. doesn't make you any less of a cunt. good products so keep them coming. cunts.

>>45

I don't know what country you are from, but I'm going to say that your tv shows suck.  That is all.

>>46

that's why you have to keep remaking foreign shows and films amirite?

>>47

I don't give a damn about The Office when I can watch Lost, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy, 24, House MD, Boston Legal, South Park, The Simpsons, Family Guy, Battlestar Galactica, SG-1, Supernatural, Veronica Mars etc.

>>45

LOL. Hate Americans but soak up thier products and entertainment. Typical hypocritical bullshit.

>>48

zomg, like the office is the only remake of the foreign show.

who cares?

>>50

Name me some recent one that are still on the air.

>>52

Something like American Idol for example.

I hate amerika. A huge majarity of them are German Nazi Commie bastards anyway. Liek Ronald Rumsfeld. <--NAZI! Or Condoleeza Rice. <---LESBO! Or George W. Bush. <---RED NECK!

I hate amerika. Especially Kelly Clarkson.

>>53

If you know the American Idol history, it was the British that brought the show to America.  They were the ones who wanted it to be remade.  Any other shows you can think of?

>>55

Oh wait, am I meant to just take that from some random guy on the internet? Please provide your source, since my google search revealed nothing.

For another examples

Dancing with the stars and Whose line is it anyway

>>56

Believe or not is up to you.  As I recall, they had a hard time trying to sell this show to the various network until Fox finally said yes.

While Dancing With the Stars just finished its second season, Whose Line was cancelled years ago.  Any more shows?

>>57
Your recollection is not good enough. I perfectly recall that it was Fox who wanted to remake the show.

Also I gave you more than one, which is what you asked. Shows don't last forever. You can be sure that more and more of foreign shows will be brought in. Take for example hollywood. Remember all those remakes of classic Japanese horror films?

Well, I may as well give you another example

Wife Swap or Trading Spouses what you call it.

>>58

You forget that American Idol was new at the time and wasn't popular.  Simon Fuller and Simon Cowell had to go around to various networks trying to sell this show.

I am aware of old TV shows and movie remakes but to suggest or hint that a lot of the shows on American TV today are remakes of foreign show is laughable.  Only a handful out of the hundreds of shows are of foreign origin.  Even on your list, most of the show being remade are cheap (cost-wise) reality TV or talent shows.

As for the recent Asian movie remakes, blame it on Roy Lee.  He buys all the rights and sells it to Hollywood as remakes.

Can we talk about Deal Or No Deal ITT please? I'm partial to that show and think it says a lot about the Americn World Order in that some people (middle east) are forced to play a game of russian rouelete (shane) for either big cash prizes or a chance to take whats behind the curtain and whats behind the curtain is dictatorship backed by George Bush and financed by amreican tax dollars.

this thread has just hit rock bottom