I used to believe in Freemason conspiracies. Every place I looked, there was "something" that could be potentially linked to Freemasonry. I was convinced that the September 11 attacks were part of a great masonic conspiracy. I was convinced that major government organizations were controlled and operated by Freemasons. I was convinced that politicians were passing down a long tradition of Freemason secrecy that was strictly members only.
Then I learned about reptilian conspiracies, and Martian cat people, and there were only two paths left- paranoia at every aspect of society, or sanity by declaring bullshit on bullshit theories that have no proof. I realised any fact can be twisted enough or leave out enough information to support any ludicrous idea. And mostly, these ideas are nothing more than not knowing something plus the element of fear.
So how is the belief in Jews secretly controlling everything and establishing a Zion world state any different? After all, it could be the Freemasons.
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Anonymous2006-04-02 18:37
It's always nice how Jews try to marginalize real holocaust inquiry through the use of satire.
How do I know that this was written by a Jew? Because he or she has a vested interest in believing the holocaust. Normal people are open to reasonable discussion.
Stop being a troll. If you want to face criticism of Jews and the holocaust, do real research or accept the truth, i.e. that the holocaust is a holohoax.
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There's an easier way to tell who wrote the message. Count the spaces between sentences and after paragraphs. Crack the code and you'll uncover a conspiracy so great a human could not even begin to fathom its breadth.
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Anonymous2006-04-02 18:43
I seriously believed in this shit. Google freemasonry, dollar bill, zahbulon, etc
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Anonymous2006-04-02 19:30 (sage)
Well, at least you won't be sent to jail for freemasonry denial.
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Anonymous2006-04-02 22:19
If you want to know what people fear most, look at what they don't want to hear.
Yes, some of the videos are very poorly made, especially "What is the New World Order."
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Anonymous2006-04-03 2:57
why has the modern media trained the average mind to instantly relate conspiracy theories to totally improbable things like aliens?
Is it because it wants to monopolise peoples way of thinking and for them to get all their information from the mass media itself, with no room for free thought or discussion among other venues that may or may not be controlled by them?
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Anonymous2006-04-03 3:23 (sage)
You don't get sent to jail for alien 'denial'/inquiry.
You don't get sent to jail for conspiracy 'denial'/inquiry.
You do get sent to jail for holocaust denial. Case in point,
Ernst Zundel
Germar Rudolph
David Irving
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Anonymous2006-04-03 11:23
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You don't get sent to jail for holocaust denial, unless you live in shitty police state of Germany.
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Anonymous2006-04-03 11:40
Aliens are a more fringe conspiracy that only affects people who cannot accept fact from fiction. The Freemasons have some good evidence to support their conspiracies, however. Of course there is plenty of wrong information about them as well (they made crop circles, shot JFK, etc)
No, the UK will put you in jail for holocaust 'denial', Austria will, and Germany will send you to jail longer than a murderer for it. Canada has relatively weak ones, but they can get you good. Holocaust denial is considered 'hate speech' in Canada, and they'll persecute you under the 'hate speech' laws. Also, if you are a EU citizen they can pretty much deport you to contries with stricter laws now. Many other countries have holocaust 'denial' laws on the books as well, but those I just mentioned are the ones that I know that several people have been put into jail for several years or served jail time or been fined in.
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Anonymous2006-04-03 11:56 (sage)
The chairman of the BNP http://www.bnp.org.uk/ Nick Griffin has already served time for holocaust 'denial' (which was probably under a hate speech law, where after mentioning facts about the holocaust which simply contradicted it physically, he was told the truth is no defense) under hate speech laws. and they are trying to persecute him under 'incitement to racial hatred,' where again, the truth is no defense and you aren't allowed to give your opinion in a public forum. So far, he's managed to be found not-guilty at least once, but they are already decided to try again, and I think that publicly they have said will try at least once more time after that.
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You basically listed all modern western hideous holes of censorship there. Glad I don't live in one and I bet majority of countries don't have such laws.
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Anonymous2006-04-03 23:59
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i think the difference is one being able to conduct credible research whilst the other merely insite hate.
all theories should be investigated thoroughly but the researchers themselves must be prepared that the theory could be flawed and, in fact, wrong. especially historians, the winners create their own fairy tales.
Hate is something that can be widly interpreted. Is it ok to hate rapists? What about if your religion calls you to feel righteous indignation towards other people? Is that hate? Many people want to call that hate, but one man's hate is another man's righteous indignation. Basically, I think it's silly to persecute speakers like that. Thinks that are criminal should require actions. Killing somebody should be a crime. Getting somebody angry enough to kill you should not be a crime. Should a wife go to jail for getting her husband angry enough to beat her, for inciting his hate?
What 'hate' really is, is one person not approving of another? Should we outlaw disapproving of other people? I think not. Disapproval will always exist, and it should. People shouldn't always agree with each other. Diversity of thought is good. The good thing about society is you are punished if you use outlawed methods of control against other people. That way we can keep our mutual forms of disapproval, diversity of thought.
Feeling righteous indignation or disapproval at someone is not the same as killing someone. That's where the line is drawn. People should be allowed to disapprove as much as they want.
Just my two cents.
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Anonymous2006-04-04 9:04
Every apparently suboptimal action you can explain through either stupidity or cunning malintent. Conspiracy theories do the latter. I usually try to keep both possibilities in mind, but then again, I'm a pretty miserable bastard.
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derkaderkajihad2006-04-07 7:54
I'm curious. Just how the hell does someone deny that the holocaust happened? How can anyone deny that? That's like waking up everyday and looking in the mirror and telling yourself that you weren't born on your birthday, that you didn't plop out of your fat mommas ass on a specific time and date? Why? Because that is a distinct denial of recorded history. You cannot say that and hope to be respected for saying it.
I realize the argument for conspiracy for a person with a mind ravaged by crack and stupidity, however history, which to my knowledge includes a lot of f***in ppl saying the same thing in regards to where they were at a specific time and what they were doing there, what they saw etc. says that the holocaust f***ing happened. This isn't like saying that Hitler was the sniper on the grassy knoll, because 1. Hitler is dead by then and 2. the ballistics theories on JFK's assasination change more often than Paris Hilton's hairdo. No, there were millions of people involved in this genocide, evidence collected, books written, and I'm slightly doubting that any soldiers that were over there just all of a sudden thought (if there wasn't a holocaust) "Hey, if we make up this whole jew killin thing, we could make money!" Wake up f***ers, I don't f***ing think so.
I will say this, the fact that he denies the holocaust should get him some kind of repercussion, because I think gross stupidity should be punished. I mean how can this red river rat of a limey justify saying that in his position (nick griffin)? Political suicide? As Mencia says "der derner", the f***in retard.
Also how the hell does one get hate speech from denying that the holocaust happened? Does anyone else say WTF? I personally see no connection, because anyone listening to this person's dribble would probably assume that he is an incompetent on that particular issue, ESPECIALLY considering his position in life. I'm guessing that since I haven't read the works in question I'm talking out of my ass, but if those works have one major theme that I'm discussing right now I believe everything I have said is quite justified.
Also, Griffin's lazy eye seems to be searching for justice, which apparently is buried deep in the camera. Maybe is left eye is smarter than he, it searches for the immediate truth, that he said something stupid and now he gets publicity for it.
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Anonymous2006-04-07 12:14
Bush is a high level freemason.
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Anonymous2006-04-07 16:57
People try to connect him to Freemasonry. He was in the Skull and Bones, and "Walker" is supposedly a given middle name from that organization. But is the Skull & Bones directly related to the Freemasons? There's not a lot of evidence available to support this.
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Anonymous2006-04-09 4:14
shit dude never even heard of martian cat people
are they like catgirls? WITH NEKOMIMI?!?!?!? sugoi~
Yes, because the holocaust didn't happen, 6 million documented Jews just fucking vanished.
Huge ovens at particular camps, zyklon B chambers, armed guards and huge barracks, all had NOTHING to do with killing Jews.
Grow the fuck up, it happened, keep hating the Jews because they are generally better educated than you are.
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Anonymous2006-04-11 23:40
'6 million documented Jews'
What documentation? You're lying through your teeth.
Apparently you can't trust American or British troops either, or holocaust survivors that say, "Gas, what are you talking about? Systematic murder of Jews? I didn't see any such thing."
You know, David Irving, Ernst Zundel, Germar Rudolph, and just recently Pedro Varela are either in jail or going to jail or held indefinately by the court without bail as their case goes on for years, for 'holocaust denial.'
The irony is that the 'holocaust' is supposed to be a conspiracy theory.
There was a thread just a while back on this stuff, and I've come to the conclusion personally that the whole 'holohoax' thing is at the very least an exagerration, or at the very most a total fabrication.
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Anonymous2006-04-16 1:29
lol @ how holocaust denier imprisonment backs up their conspiracy theories
Where ARE these damned reptilian overlords I keep hearing about? I've been trying to locate them for the express purpose of ensuring their next generation is entirely half-human but with no luck. Help me out world4ch, so I may save humanity from enslavement by walking crocodiles!
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Anonymous2006-04-16 9:37
I wonder what it would be like to copulate with one?
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Anonymous2006-04-16 12:35
Kill someone who works high in the government. Then will you see their blood and inner flesh.
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Anonymous2006-04-16 17:08
Why didn't we see any reptilian blood when Kennedy got shot? Or was he shot because he WASN'T reptilian?
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