What do liberals think of liberty andJustice?

You never mention it or you say that freedom is just some random ideal used to justify wars. Well not being killed for disagreeing with the government is a pretty big deal to me.

The human rights records of Cuba, North Korea, national socialist Germany 1933-1945 and other socialist nations or periods in history.

During the 1880s, the marxist movement split between the libertarian anarchists and the absolutist communists. From this point onwards all socialist revolutions have resulted in the despotic totalitarianist communist interpretation of marxism. Trotsky believed that democracy should be used to give the people power over the communist form of government, a more agreeable form of government that would prevent social injustice and allow liberties. He was driven out of Soviet Russia and fled to Cuba, where he was later killed by Cubans as Fidel Castro slowly corrupted from freedom fighter to tyrant and disagreed with his notions of allowing free speech.

With these facts in mind, the skapegoating attitude towards anything western/white and the propoganda-tactics used by socialists I can only conclude that they wish to execute people who disagree with them once they are in power.

I'd like to hear your side of the story.

not all liberals are marxists or extremists, and I doubt Fidel Castro or any other despot lurks on world4ch so the best answer I can give is i dunno lol

Humans are inherently corrupt, no system works.

End of /newpol/.

>>3
Nope.  That's why we have /newpol/.  so we can bitch and moan about what we don't like.

>>4 enjoy your pointlessness!

>>1
It's almost as if the most recent knowledge of politics you have came from something written by Joseph McCarthy in the 1950's.

Despite what you and people like him may think, "liberal" or "left wing" does not mean "communist" or "socialist."  Using that kind of rationale, "conservative" or "right wing" would mean "fascist" or "nazi," based on the most universally accepted definitions of both political ideologies.

"National socialism," as used in the sense of the "National Socialist German/Deutsche Workers Party" (otherwise known as the Nazis), was actually against most of the teachings of Karl Marx (and socialism, using the most widely accepted definition), and gained acceptance and popularity due to their position in direct opposition to Bolshevism (communism/Marxism adopted by V.I. Lenin).  Also, while Marxism encouraged a revolution amongst the workers that would eventually spread beyond national borders, the Nazi party/facists encouraged extreme nationalism, spreading beyond borders only to embrace those of the same race (German/Teutonic/whatever you want to call it), which eventually led to literally extending their borders.

You can't always base everything on key words.  It's like saying that you're "conservative" on the environment.  Does that mean you want to conserve the environment (liberal) or relax laws to give more freedom to, in essence, destroy it (conservative).  Do you want the more "liberal" distribution of firearms (which would give you the conservative stance on this issue)?

All in all, like >>2 said, far-left political ideologies do not fit the definition of liberal (at least in the United States), so this question was in essence, just a wordy way of trolling, stating the stereotype that all liberals were communists.  If I wanted to hear things like this, I would just watch Sean Hannity or reruns of Wally George.

>>6 just a wordy way of trolling

Trolling?  In world4ch?  On April 1st?  THAT'S UNPOSSIBLE

"Those that would give up essential liberty in pursuit of a little temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security."

>>8
Isn't that quote used a lot by the republicans?

>>9
Yeah, but it's a quote, man! It must be true!

People who use short meme-like quotes to try and make a point are mental lightweights. Think about it.

>>9
delicious irony innit?

>>11
Depends where they use it.

I think that was a quote from Ben Franklin, and usually, it's used by critics of the current adminstration (ie. not Republicans).

It's used by stupid liberals (but not the brighter ones). Every group has their fools.

The problem with such a quote is it means almost nothing without context. Of course, idiots being idiots, an essay is beyond their feeble grasp.

Critical thinking? Wazzat?

>>15
You're only making yourself look stupid...

>>16
How so?