Keep the nazism here as low as possible, please...
I don't think Israel should exist.
Thoughts?
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Anonymous2006-03-24 17:13
It's an illegitimate state, it needs to be abolished.
If America loves the Jews so much, why don't we give them Arizona? It looks just like Israel. They've kept the land out of hatred, nothing more.
The Jews are the most nazistic people in the world. I don't even hate Jews, this is just what I know. No other religion or ethnicity expresses the sort of centrism and zealotry that they do.
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Anonymous2006-03-24 17:24
"The Jews are the most nazistic people in the world. I don't even hate Jews, this is just what I know. No other religion or ethnicity expresses the sort of centrism and zealotry that they do."
That's funny, becuase I've met plenty of Jews and none of them were even particularly religious.
Anyways, I think that the creation of Israel was one of the biggest mistakes of the 20th century. The whole reasoning behind its creation was so that Jews would have their own country where they could be safe from persecution. Yet Jews in Israel today are probably in greater danger than they are anywhere on earth.
But that's all kind of besides the point. Israel has existed for quite some time now. Several generations of children have been born there, and if Israel were abolished thos people wouldn't have any place to go. Quite simply, the Palestinians should cut their losses and made peace with Israel a long time ago. They more they resist the more they lose, and it's only going to be a matter of time before they lose it all.
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Anonymous2006-03-24 17:48
Israel needs to give back all the land it stole and return to its original borders. Then remove all Israeli settlers and the Israeli military from the rest of the land. Then, from that standpoint, it can protect itself against arab terrorists all it wants.
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Anonymous2006-03-24 19:40
Nobody symphasizes with Israel except for Jews and people that don't want to offend Jews or thos who benefit from various types of bribes gotten from Jews for supporting Israel.
Rachel Corrie, a white girl from the US, got in front of an Israeli bulldozer that was going to destroy somebody's home yelling through a bullhorn to try and stop them, and that dirty Israeli/Jew BASTARD ran her over, twice for good measure (if memory serves correctly.) http://www.rachelcorrie.org/
This whole Middle East quagmire will be over soon. Bribes, political economic or whatever, cost resources and the gravy train will stop eventually, especially with so much popular sentiment against Israel (I've NEVER heard anyone support Israel except on TV, and that's because they're paid to /in reality they reality couldn't care a shit/.) I hope the Palestinians take back their homeland and drive the Israelis/Jews out. I'll be clapping for justice served. Hey, I'd fully support arming the palestinians against the Israelis, God knows that we've sent billions to the Israelis so that they could go crush somebody's home and ruin the lives of a people to the point where they have nothing left but to strap a bomb onto themselves and hope they take some of the bastards out with them.
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Anonymous2006-03-24 20:22
>>3 none of them were even particularly religious.
Missed something. Judaism is not a religion and Jews are not religious, it is an opposition to everything that isn't Judaic and they are soldiers. Look at their culture. Look at the Holocaust survivors. They wallow in a war of self-preservation and genetic purity, they have nothing else.
Your third paragraph asserts that if something is illegal for long enough it becomes legal and that the victims of a crime carry the onus of forgiving and cooperating with criminals. You sound like either a brainwashed Israelite or someone who does not belong to our society. It is all the same.
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Anonymous2006-03-24 21:11
Israel never stole any land. All the land they gained were from legal warface; they weren't even the ones who initiated the wars.
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Anonymous2006-03-24 21:33
That land is their ancestral lands. Sort of like how most of America was the land of the natives. Given the current demographics, however, putting Israel in the middle of a muslim area was kinda weird.
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Anonymous2006-03-24 22:50
>>8
There were already a lot of Jews in Israel before the founding of the state. And it's not like they were forced to go to Israel, I think.
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Anonymous2006-03-25 2:42
>>9
Zionists before the Holocaust weren't forced, no. But after 1945, Europe's remaining Jews mostly believed that they could never be safe again anywhere in Europe. Much of the rest of the world agreed with them.
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Anonymous2006-03-25 4:56
>>9
Actually, there were only about 65,000 Jews in Palestine prior to WW2.
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Anonymous2006-03-25 6:48
>>8
Jamaica used to be populated by Jamaicans in the 1600s, should we demolish all those resorts and kick all those black slaves and white millionaires out and bring back the Taino?
Or do the Taino not have a strong enough grip around the world's economy to pull that off? They have the 'Holocaust sympathy' down, at least. That's a great centrist argument, you do a wonderful impression of a Jew.
The Jews have been allowed this land only because of a Guilty Europe and huge American Jewish Lobby. The American foreign policy is hypocritcal in essence, and the funding of Isreal is the ephitamy of that hipocracy. Im going to Palestine next week, And i m sure as hell not going to be going to cheer on the illegal fallacy that is the 'State of Isreal' and the pathetic Zionists that champion its legitimacy.
Its a wonder that the US is allowed to continue with this, Fuck if only if they allowed 4chan to replace congress and parliment...(excl./b/)
Non Nazi here, I think isreals creation was wrong. They are a terrorist state who has been caught breaking international law and should stop being given preferential treatment.
this is a stupid discussion. nobody cares what you think should or should not exist. Israel exists and thats final, if you do not like that, then fine. but whining on 4chan about how Israel should not exist willl not make it disappear.
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Anonymous2011-12-15 5:10
The Zionist entity must vanish from the planet and instead be merged with Palestine into one federal, secular state ISRATIN.
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Anonymous2011-12-17 10:44
Let's take a look at the history of the region. The Jews lived in Israel and ruled the land for several thousand years. Around 70 AD, the Romans began to exile the Jews from the region. They were repeatedly exiled or massacred under the rule of various Arab Empires and by the Christians during the Crusades. Several Arab empires subsequently took over the land and exiled the Jews. Eventually, the Ottoman Empire took over the region in the 1200s and maintained control until the end of WWI. While some Jews remained in the area throughout the duration of the Ottoman Empire, they made up a very small minority of the population.
A lot of people say that the area of present-day Israel was nearly deserted before the Zionist movement of the late 19th-early 20th century, but this is not true. According to Wikipedia (not always the most accurate source, but I digress) the population in that area in 1890 was about 520,000. Of those 520,000, there were approximately 20-25,000 Jews, or roughly 4.8% of the population.
To put this in perspective, Israel is approximately the size of New Jersey. The population density in 1890 would have been roughly equal to that of present-day Mississippi (would you say Mississippi is deserted?). In fact, it was more densely populated that the United States was at the time. The Jewish population (as a percentage) in Israel at that time was approximately the same as the Asian-American population in the US today. By 1917, the Jewish population was over 11%.
People sometimes talk about how the Arabs treated the rising Jewish population prior to the formation of Israel, but consider the attitude of people in the United States against the rising Hispanic population. The ancestors of the Jews that lived in Europe had been kicked out of Israel hundreds, if not more than a thousand, years ago. So when they decided to immigrate back to Israel, the Arab population already living there views them as unwanted immigrants (and many were probably illegal immigrants).
Then, in 1917, Britain issues the Balfour Declaration, giving the Jews a homeland in Israel. If you were an Arab living in the area and Britain decided they were going to give the Jews the land that your family had lived on for hundreds of years, wouldn't you be pissed?
Jewish people consider the land of Israel the "Promised Land", given to them by God. However, that is not the belief of the Muslims. To draw a parallel, the land that is now Kentucky was considered sacred to the Shawnee. They believed the "Great Spirit" gave them that land to hunt on. Do you support giving the land back to them now? What if China issued a declaration that they were going to create a Shawnee homeland in Kentucky? Or what if they decided they were going to give Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico back to the Mexicans?
Many Muslims consider the entire region of Palestine as their holy land, just as the Jews do. Do you understand where they are coming from when they are so adament about this issue?
Granted, it has been 60 years since Israel was officially made a nation and the Arabs need to get over it. Yet, they refuse to let it go and will likely stop at nothing until Israel is no more.
This is one of those issues where religion gets in the way of rational behavior (on both sides). If Israel wasn't the "Promised Land", the Jewish people would have been happy to take refuge in any country in which they were treated as equal citizens. If it wasn't the "holy land" for Muslims, they would have let the dispute go by now. In the end, one group or the other will probably be completely destroyed. In the meantime, the United States is caught in the middle.
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Or the sand niggers could simply move elsewhere. After all, they are the ones that can't coexist with non-Muslims.
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Anonymous2011-12-18 7:10
Both sides are pathetic. This isn't about land, religion or anything that happened in the past. Both sides are quite happy to draw out as long as possible a cycle of death, hate and intolerable suffering for the sake of their sense of self-identity.
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Anonymous2011-12-18 11:37
just throw like 20 bucks into the mediteranian, the jews will follow
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Joy N Pain2011-12-19 12:49
>>28
This.
Honestly, one of the most rational and well-written things I've EVER seen online.
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Anonymous2011-12-30 0:06
>>28
"In the meantime, the United States is caught in the middle."
The U.S. is not caught in the middle. The U.S. cares about Israel for only one reason – oil.
Think of Israel as an unsinkable U.S. aircraft carrier with the mission to secure a reliable supply of cheap oil from the Middle East. The moment the U.S. has an alternative to ME oil, it will stop supporting Israel (just like it stopped supporting Sadam Hussein or Bin Laden, when they were no longer needed. And that will be the end of Israel as a "Jewish" state.
Israelis (and their friends in the U.S.) know it. I wonder if the reason why the U.S. has such as difficulty getting its act together when it comes to alternative energy, compared to for example Germany or China, is because the “friends of Israel” in the U.S. are aware of this and are doing whatever they can to keep the U.S. dependent on ME oil.
Palestine should be in Jordan. There are enough Muslim countries in the world. Muslims are now cupping Europe driving true Europeans out of their countries. Israel is the home of the Jewish people from the beginning of civilization. Palestinians are a made up identity that never existed in the time of the roman empire or christian crusaders or even the Atman empire. Like it or not Israel is here to stay.
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Anonymous2012-09-29 23:16
>>1 I don't think Israel should exist.
Fine, if you want to allow all these kikes inside your house.
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Anonymous2012-11-27 18:07
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>Palestinians are a made up identity that never existed in the time of the roman empire or christian crusaders or even the Atman empire
Palestinians are Arabs that were forced out of the British Mandate. I thought we all agreed on this? They were always there, but just given a name to separate those who weren't in the exodus.
>Israel is the home of the Jewish people from the beginning of civilization
They took the land from someone else.
>Palestine should be in Jordan
They should be in the west bank where your settlers are running them out.
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Anonymous2012-11-27 18:31
What if we renamed it to something that wasn't Israel? Something offensive like "Pig's butt-hole". Headlines on tv would suddenly be hilarious. Invading nations would be labeled as faggots. Christian extremists would no longer feel obligated to throw cash at them and Palestinians would no longer want it.
Imagine this read by Morgan Freeman: "
Today, we invade a pig's butt hole in the name of our God. We must reclaim it and rub the shit all over our deliciously kosher Muslim dicks. Our penetration must be deep and thorough."
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Anonymous2012-11-28 2:31
If Israel should exist it should exist as a religiously plural state with universal suffrage and a post-ww2 Japanese style defense policy.
Firstly lets face facts at the end of the second world war with all the atrocities done to the Jewish people it was decided to give them a safe place to call home what better than this area. there is an alternative Jewish state in Russia in the east that speaks and lives entirely by Jewish standards.
Around this time there where large community's of Christians, Jews, Muslims, [insert all], in most major states and large city's.I know that these community have largely migrated and where better to relocate to. problem is Israels independents spawned from terrorism. The British left state held hostage which in fact was only a colony and wasn't a legitimate ...contract basically.Like with the Mississippi river... Didn't someone sell is all to a country and then all the locals where fucked.
So since then Israel has been harassed and come back hard with the help of Israeli supporters in the US, similar to the northern Ireland problem in the UK. Its fair to say that due to the war concerning Israel the balance of power was tipped in favor of Israel.
The problem is Israel Seems to be inflicting cruel treatment of the native people of Palestine whilst holding and grabbing more land. It seems that in the face of international law Israel is happy to just rest on its beliefs. If I'm right in thinking they are a religious State then there politics and their religion are one and the same.
So how does Judaism, in a fairly difficult position of security and international law, actually save face or be totally honest of how legitimate they think God makes them...
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Anonymous2012-12-03 19:34
>>3 That's funny, becuase I've met plenty of Jews and none of them were even particularly religious.
Either you're a gullible shabbos or a typical kike putting on the mask of a goy. Either way, get the fuck out.
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Anonymous2012-12-07 9:59
>>3 The whole reasoning behind its creation was so that Jews would have their own country where they could be safe from persecution.
Sounds silly, because Israel completely depends on US and Europe. If American goyim manage to seize back control over their country, Israel will be dead the next day. And the less Jews live in America, infiltrating all institutions, the more likely is the overthrow.
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oy vey!! you congratulate someone and the chutz acts all sarcastic, the nerve of some people, oooiii
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Anonymous2012-12-12 0:09
Israel will do fine without the US having to swaddle them as they do. Not that I give a shit how they do, but they do not NEED the US.
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Lawak Antara Benua2013-05-23 0:27
LAWAK ANTARA BENUA art/story: CENDOL
Man 1 : "ISH! BENGANG BETUL AKU DENGAN ISRAEL NI...SUKA HATI MAK TIRI DIA JE BOM SANA SINI..."
Man 2 : "ISRAEL MEMANG KEJAM!!"
Man 1 : "BINATANG TAK PERNAH KEJAM CAMNI...AKU MEMANG BETUL-BETUL HANGIN BACA PASAL ISRAEL NI...NAK JUGAK AKU PERSI BOM ISRAEL SKARANG...ISH!! GERAM BETUL LAA...PUUII!!"
Man 2 : "AIK? APSAL KAU BARAN SANGAT NI?! SELALUNYA JARANG KAU AMIK TAU PASAL BERITA DUNIA LUAR NI...ARI NI LAIN MACAM PLAK...SABAR LA..."
Man 1 : "NAK SABAR PERSI SABAH LA...AHH!! AKU TAK KIRA...SKANG JUGAK AKU NEKAD NAK BOIKOT SEGALA PRODUK ISRAEL...BANGGA JAHANAM NI JANGAN BASI MUKA...PUUII!!"
Man 2 : "EH!! APSAL NI...HANGIN TETIBA JE... SABAR...SABAR..."
Man 1 : "KAMI BENCI ISRAEL!! PEGI KAU JAUH-JAUH ISRAEL!!"
Man 2 : "YE, BARU AKU PAHAM KENAPA KAU TETIBA JE BARAN...AKU PUN TETIBA GAK BARAN...BOIKOT ISRAEL!!"
Woman : "CHEH!!"
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Anonymous2013-05-23 6:46
I don't care about Israel - it should be an Arabian problem. We have our own Jews to care about.
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Anonymous2013-05-25 14:56
>>51
Perhaps the Jew is a universal problem, requiring a universal solution.