""The PA is -- in practice -- becoming a terrorist authority," acting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told his Cabinet at the beginning of its meeting Sunday. "Israel will not hold contacts with a government in which Hamas takes part."
The Cabinet decided to stop the transfer of the roughly $55 million a month it collects in taxes and tariffs on behalf of the Palestinian Authority.
Palestinian experts estimate the Palestinian budget shortfall is about $1 billion a year, and the funds collected by Israel would cover about half of that.
The Cabinet also decided to ask the international community to stop giving money to the Palestinians, though it said humanitarian aid should continue."
(AP syndicated article)
Now I think we're all in agreement that bombing Muslims and bull-dozing their houses is justified, but confiscating their tariffs to punish them for electing a government you don't like? And not even trying to cover it up? Isn't that below even Israel?
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Anonymous2006-02-20 13:58
Why don't the Palestinians collect their own tax?
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Anonymous2006-02-20 13:58
collect their tax themselves rather
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Anonymous2006-02-20 14:10
Because Israel controls all the sea and air routes into Palestine for security reasons, collects tariffs for Palestine, and then passes them along.
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Anonymous2006-02-20 15:51
You know what I don't get? Why do we all sit here and continue to act like Israel is a legit country or government? If you don't start working with Hamas. Hamas is going to start working against you. There are reasons these countries are being filled by so-called terrorists. The people in Palestine are sick of being demonized.
Consider this.
A bunch of Mexicans starts some shit within US borders. US decide to solve this by purging all of Mexicans within our border, denying them rights, what have you. This is something we did to communists, germans and the japanese.
For whatever reason Mexico wins "the war" due to aid from outside countries and these outside countries (having something to gain, obvious) declare "Mexico 2" it's own country and demand that the United States recognises "Mexico 2".
Would that make sense to you as an American? Can any ethnic group rise up in our country and with foreign aid start it's own country? WITHING OUR BORDERS? Is that what WE'D allow? Remember how bitchy we got when France started giving money to New Orleans?
Come on now. Say what you want about "them goofy sand nigras" but Isreal's creation simply doesn't fly with me as I know that as an American pushed out of my home- I'd still be pissed off at "Mexico 2" and you would too.
Try and understand where these people come from.
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Anonymous2006-02-20 15:53
Yeah and, if that's the Palestinian Tax money. Money they've EARNED they should have it given to them. "Why doesn't Palestine collect their own taxes..." isn't a question we should be asking here. The better question is "why does Israel"?
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Anonymous2006-02-20 16:15
uhm, guys
muslims elected a terrorist government that wants to erradicate israel and the jews by blowing up their public transport system and snipering their children (like they did in the past, only now they'd do it officially). why the fuck would israel give it money???
the reason muslims don't collect the money is because it would never reach its destination. you know how those savages are.
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Anonymous2006-02-20 16:17
>>6
Because Israel wants their money, get over it. Why does Palestine let Israel collect their taxes, why not open a swiss bank account and smuggle things in and out of palestine. I think Hamas and the Zionists are in it together to screw over the Israeli and Palestinian peoples.
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Anonymous2006-02-20 22:33
>>why not open a swiss bank account
thats what Arafat did for himself
I'm tired of sticking up for the Jews. Let them fight their own fucking battles. If they want to inflame the people by taking away THIER money (no matter how you slice it, Israel is STEALING) then they should deal with the consequences of Palestine getting in bed with the likes of Iran. I can tell you right now- Israel had better tread carefully.
That means fuck all. I don't give a fuck who Palestine is "in bed with" all I know is that Israel is an illegal state that shouldn't have been allowed into being IN THE FIRST PLACE.
These nutzoid despots don't get into power because the people themselves are crazy/stupid, it's a need. Just like how we voted in Bush because of a perceived need for protection? Same thing with all these other Arab countries and HAMAS.
I've said it once and I'll say it again: Either we all have nukes or no one has them.
I realize that in the fantasoid, fairy-village of make believe the entire middle east should be perfectly alright with all of the west having nukes- but if the shoe was on the other foot, you'd be calling for more powerful nuclear powers to disarm too.
There is no way you can expect the entire middle east to sit back and let the west basically waves nukes in their faces. These people are pissed for good reason. They feel oppressed, why shouldn't they vote Hamas in? Why shouldn't they tell their leaders to start nuclear programs. Look at Iraq, Look at our un wavering support of Israel, have we ourselves proven to be fair or reasonable?
hey guess what, jews were in Israel something like a thousand years before the arabs.
The reason they shouldn't vote for hamas is because they depend on israel. which part of this don't you understand?
they voted for a fucking terrorist government that wants to wipe israel off the map and now israel doesn't want to have anything to do with them. does this surprise you?
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Anonymous2006-02-21 14:47
>>19
"hey guess what, jews were in Israel something like a thousand years before the arabs."
Irrelevant.
"they voted for a fucking terrorist government that wants to wipe israel off the map and now israel doesn't want to have anything to do with them. does this surprise you?"
Relevant.
Like I said. Your attitude creates these problems with Hamas and other extremist groups. No middle eastern country is going to sit back and let the west hold nuclear weapons at it's throat. Just not going to fucking happen and you can't sit there and expect it to.
I'm sure that it'd be just fine with you to wipe these people off the face of the earth, but in the ADULT REAL WORLD, that's not going to take place without MASSIVE reprecussions throughout the world and if you have no problem with the possibly of another world war...then by all means pussy-boy, join the army. Join the Israelis.
My money shouldn't go to protecting Israel or that region anymore. The only reason we're really afriad of them having the bomb is because with the bomb comes the ability to say no to such things as: OCCUPATIONS FOR OIL.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 2:55
>>22
what does my attitude have to do with hamas's goal to destroy israel and kill all the j00z?
stupid shithead.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 3:38
>>22
The problem with Hamas and every other Arab terrorist group is Islam, a Bronze Age death-cult. All superstition is stupid, but Islam is stupid and dangerous. O NOES, the Ayatollah will issue a fatwa against me! Maybe the Pakistanis and Libyans will riot some more!
Fuck the Arabs. They lost, and, unlike them, the Jews were too civilized to exterminate their foes, so they've been whining about it and occasionally strapping on bomb belts for sixty years. Fuck them. Fuck them in the ass. Fuck them in the ass with a rusty chainsaw.
When and if enough of the craziest and stupidest of them kill themselves, maybe the remaining population will have evolved enough to reject loony superstition and may eventually be able to take a place at the table with the other civilizations. Not before. Wall them off and let them stew in their own juices. It's merciful in the long run because it will accelerate the process.
It has everything to do with it, you ignorant fuckbrain. If you really think what's going on with fundamentalist islam over there is any different than what's going on with christian fundamentalist conversative over here- you simply lack any degree of objectivity to discuss this issue.
It's your lack of objectivity, your willful ignorance of what we do over there in those arab countries and your simpleminded inability to look at things fairly without severely retarded degrees of fear mongering or culture censuring (who the fuck are you to say what's evolved?) that spurn on the sorts emotions that create Hamas and Al Queda and keep them in power.
As long as lamebrain fuckwits like >>23 and >>24 exist Hamas is always going to have support. You fucking idiots think this is solely about relegion and ideologies and all this shit.
I really hope you're trolling and not actually that fucking retarded.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 13:23 (sage)
>>28
If you want to be a dhimmi so badly, go to Saudi Arabia. The rest of us would rather not live in an Islamic theocracy.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 15:48
Jews took Palastinian land. Jews backed by america, because they have politcal lobby over presidents to scared to go against them. They recieve massive funding from the US, who control their illegality, even when the only reason they were there in the first place because we were guilty of Hitler, and the arabs had noone means to stop Zionists take their land. Jews GTFO, we should have built a ghetto for all of them in the wastes of northern Siberia.
Massive funding? Last I checked they got 1.5 billion in miltary aid from the US, but the US spends what? 10 times that much giving away aid to all these 3rd world ingrates who want nothing better than to kill America.
>>25 please fill me in on all the wars and conflicts that involve christian fundementalists and also please list for me the multitude of sucide attacks etc that they have carried out...
I'm waiting...
gee what's that the islamofacists are nothing like christian fundementalists? I thought not.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 16:10
>>31
1Billon US $ Is a hell of a lot in proportion to what funding the Palasinian govt. is recieveing or is able to recieve from surrounding arab allies. The fact remains, that the existance of the state of Israel is a main factor in why Islamic terrosist attacks have surfaced to the Pro-Zionist west.
It is not a matter of culture; though fanaticism is integral to islam, The fact is, we should leave the middle east to the middle east, and not America barge in whenever the oil can be seen.
They are intolerant. It says in the Qur'an for Muslims to wage war against the unbelievers.
However, we have provoked them with Israel, Iraq, and a number of other interferences.
Israel out, America out, Any Muslimans who will not conform to the more liberal and secular laws set by western society will be deported to the middle east, where their religion may be practiced internally with a full degree of fevour.
However, Realise for muslims, if your going to live here, you'll have to give up your policy of 'Killing all the Unbelievers' and 'I HAET CARTOONZ OF MOHAMMED' for the advantage you gain of being in our society.
Ya and also, Christianity before hand was Fanatic like this. Thank god that they calmed down abit and integrated with society.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 16:17
bullshit. christianity in its darkest was much better than islam is now, especially if you consider what christians had to work with (prohibitively expensive leather books and open sewage canals, for instance). despite what you may have heard, christians didn't go around killing random people for jesus. mostly. and a lot of the people they killed weren't exactly innocent.
muslims have all the technology that the west developed available to them, and what do they do with it? they distribute videos of extremist preachers on the internet.
some people never learn. i say it's time for holocaust II.
Your right. But at least the Muslims have the balls to keep to their horibbly deluded faith, rather than the Christians who have decreacing lost power since the emergance of modern society.
The simple solution is : They are fanatic. If they wish to interact with the west and live here, they will have to become less so and drop the ALLAHUACKBAR im going to bomb you for drawing mohammed. Otherwise, they stay in the middle east with the fanaticism and leave US alone. While we in the west leave THEM alone. NOT attack them for Oil, or create a illegal state right in their heartland of their sworn enemies lol? By responding with Genoside we would prove to be as bad as them. But i say, if after all of the above had been put into place, and they attack us once more for fanaticisms sake, We blow them out.
That is compromise.
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. Logic2006-02-22 17:17
We are all capable of evil, muslims extremists are currently being evil, muslims are not. There are proportionally more muslims extremists than christian extremists, this does not mean all muslims are evil or all christians are evil. I've already mentionned this, but this does not mean arabs/muslims are more of less capable of evil than other races and creeds.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 18:38
Folks, Israel was created in 1948 out of liberal guilt for not stopping the Holocaust quickly enough. 2008 will be the 60's anniversary of the creation of the state of Israel. I say, if they can't stand on their own two feet by then, we stop all support for Israel and let nature take it's course. Mabye if we did'nt back Israel, the Middle East would actually hate us a whole lot less.
deal with the fact that Israel is NEVER going away, they have nukes, they'll see every arab country burn in sweet atomic fire before they allow themselves to be moved from where they are.
because terrorists will take advantage of the sensitive areas that palestinians would have access to if they did allow palestinians to collect them. i don't know about you but if it takes keeping them from collecting their taxes to keep one less sand nigger from blowing up a bus full of children, i say go to.
As long as lamebrain fuckwits like >>23 and >>24 exist Hamas is always going to have support. You fucking idiots think this is solely about relegion and ideologies and all this shit.
Guess what?
You are dead fucking 1000% WRONG.
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Anonymous2006-02-23 3:18
>>44
So, do you have anything but name-calling and self-hating white liberal guilt to contribute to the discussion?
"Name calling"? (So, um, I'm the only one that verbally insulted in this thread? Look again, fuckface.)
"self-hate white liberal"? (So let's see...I'm not white. I don't hate myself. And I'm not a liberal. Hmmmm. Strange.)
I really hope you're trolling and not actually that fucking retarded.
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Anonymous2006-02-23 14:44
niggers aren't allowed to discuss politics. GTFO
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Anonymous2006-02-23 16:51
3-”Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” 9:29
>>51
Bonus points for Liberals if they can find an equivalent Bible quote.
Bonus points for Nazis and Muslims if they can find an equivalent Torah quote.
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Anonymous2006-02-23 17:58
>>51 >> 52
x2 Bonus points if you find anything like this in a Socially acceptable group save islam. (And Nazis if your /b/)
5-“Seize them and slay them wherever you find them: and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks.” 4:89
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>>bullshit. christianity in its darkest was much better than islam is now, especially if you consider what christians had to work with (prohibitively expensive leather books and open sewage canals, for instance). despite what you may have heard, christians didn't go around killing random people for jesus. mostly. and a lot of the people they killed weren't exactly innocent.
Are you fucking retarded and did you ever read a book about european history ? Did you ever heard of inquisition ? Fucking retard.
All you christian/muslim/jews are all fucking retarded and the deasease of this planet.
As long as we will have fucking religions mankind will be nothing more than a bunch of faggots that can't do anything without inteligence.
Thanks god, in europe we beging to don't give a fucking shit about religious.
And when i see fuckin religious from any kind, going in the street and whinning because they feel insulted, i dream about a law where religions would be forbidden and punished by fistfucking.
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Anonymous2006-02-24 2:55 (sage)
The only way to solve the problem is to atomize all jews and their slaves (namely usa and england). Then we would have finally peace on earth.
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Anonymous2006-02-24 3:45
>>54
In Europe, you're either going to get rid of the diaperheads or, when they outnumber you in another forty or so years, they're going to round you all up and send you to the gas chamber.
Is this post directed at white people, black people or "Americans"?
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Anonymous2006-02-27 5:12
Sheikh Ismail Nawahda, preaching to Moslem masses on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem on Friday, has brought it out into the open: the call to restore the Moslem Khalifate, or, "Genuine Islamic Rule."
A plan for the "Return of the Khalifate" was published secretly in 2002 by a group called "The Guiding Helper Foundation." The group explained that it wished to "give direction to the educated Muslim populace in its increasing interest in the establishment of Islam as a practical system of rule."
This past Friday, Feb. 24, however, the plan went public. Sheikh Nawahda called publicly for the renewal of the Islamic Khalifate, which would "unite all the Moslems in the world against the infidels."
The Khalifate system features a leader, known as a Khalif, who heads worldwide Islam. Assisted by a ten-man council, his decisions are totally binding on all Moslems.
According to the Foundation's vision of the Khalifate, significant punishment can only be meted out for 14 crimes, including "accusing a chaste person of fornication," "not performing the formal prayer," and "not fasting during Ramadan."