If a couple are unfortunate enough to bare a tard, even with technology that will warn in advance of this catastrophe pukes don't want you to abort. The couple, the tard, and society, including you, suffers.
Then the pukes turn around and say you can't research ways to help the tard. Straight from the horse's mouth: "Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research, human cloning in all its forms, creating or implanting embryos for experiments, creating human-animal hybrids, and buying, selling or patenting human embryos." I guess he want us to experiment directly with humans. Those tards would make excellent guinea pigs and if it doesn't work out...
Oh but wait let's keep them on life support and make a media circus out of it too.
Pukes need to immigrate to irak and stay the fuck out of the way.
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Anonymous2006-02-02 3:12
>>1
So a human life only has value if society determines that it does? Oh boy, I just can't wait for the establishment of the postmodern deconstructionist state.
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Anonymous2006-02-02 22:24
That shit'll never pass. It's well known that a congressional majority hascontinually opposed Bush's attempts to ban stem cell research and stuff. All the rest of that crap is just BS thrown in to fool people into thinking it actually exists.
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Anonymous2006-02-02 23:29
"Pukes"
>>1 is the tard mentioned in the OP. He is suffering because George W Bush stopped his abortion in Texas.
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Anonymous2006-02-08 18:12
>He is suffering because George W Bush stopped >>4's abortion in Texas.
fixed
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Anonymous2006-02-08 21:02
He is suffering because George W Bush stopped George W Bush's abortion in Connecticut.
ok so to be human in your mind one has to be 'smart' since you determin that a 'clump of cells' are dumb they are not human.
Ok so now whose definition of 'smart' do we go by, so someone smarter than you has the right to kill you because you are dumber than them and so not human? And what about animals why do we even bother with animal rights then?
So I ask again if embryos are not human what are they and can they be anything other than human?
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Anonymous2006-02-21 18:53 (sage)
Because according to law, your date of birth is the time and date when you come out of your mom, not when you're inside or whatever.
People are so party-line jack asses that they'd rather argue when you are considered human or whatever the fuck because their party has established it rather than to see the true nature of why people want abortion and why others don't.
Freedom, mofo! Do you use it?!
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Anonymous2006-02-21 22:40
>>16
Well, I can agree before like, the second trimester. But after the third, the brain starts up. How do you know the thing isn't conscious?
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Anonymous2006-02-22 0:49
If you were suicidal does anyone have the right to stop you from killing yourself? People may want to stop you, but in the end if you really wanted to commit suicide, the choice is yours.
Now, the embryo, can it exist, "live," independent of the mother? Depending on technology, before a certain point, the embryo just can't live on its own. In that time frame it is more or less an attachment of the mother. Does the mother not have the right to do what she wants with her body? Should we ban clipping nails next? I know, I know a nail and an embryo is not comparable, but either way it's none of your business. Unless you want take over the burden. If someone cares enough to meddle with the affairs of someone of no relation, that someone should be willing to accept embryo transplants. Although, I don't think tech can do that at the moment, until then they should mind their own business.
Banning abortion is only a problem for the poor. People with resources will could just fly off to a sane country to have it taken care of. The poor people on the other hand get to increase their debt. Or maybe the poor person would attempt unassisted abortion. Well that kills two birds with one stone doesn't it?
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Anonymous2006-02-22 2:40
>>18
Pro-lifers will be sorry they supported their view 20 years down the road when all those poorly raised kids turn to crime and end up shooting them. Those protesters are too fucking stupid to realize most of the people who get abortions do so because they can't afford enough to take care of kids even when working full shifts.
Also, embryos are non-sentient life forms at the stage they are harvested. Yes, they are a clump of cells that can exist for a short time outside of the human body. Then again, so is sperm but I doubt many activists cry themselves a river whenever they fap into a pile of Kleenex. With that said, harvesting embryos is about as morally wrong as picking apples off a tree.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 8:31
>19 Does the mother not have the right to do what she wants with her body?
Does a siamese twin have the right to decide that the other should die?
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Anonymous2006-02-22 8:37
>>19
I guess I can support getting aborting an embryo, only because it isn't conscious and most people who want an abortion want it because they can't give it the kind of life it deserves.
But all this "It's a part of me! I have the right to get rid of it! Flush it out of me!" rhetoric is stupid and has got to go. The more we devalue life as a whole, the more we devalue our own lives. What if in the future, totalitarians decide that you are a part of their land, part of property they own, and therfore theirs to do whatever they want with? What if, say, engineered humans in the future are 100 times smarter than us, can they just decide that we're worthless because we're not a conscious as them? Well, yes, we've already set that precedent.
Think about the consequences of your actions. Don't just be like "Oops~! Time to go see the fetus flusher again!"
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Anonymous2006-02-22 8:44
>>20
Depends. Is the twin the opposite sex?
ooo NEW HENTAI IDEA!
>>18
Well heck maybe poor people should keep it in their pants or wrap the little bugger in the first place. Like >>21 notes actions have consequences.
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Anonymous2006-02-23 10:22
>>21
If you want to see that rhetoric in action, go back 200 years. Pretty much everything you said was the groundwork behind slavery, that bix noods were stupid subhumans. Of course, that changed with the civil rights movement and the abolition of slavery. There's precedent set on both sides, but unless that pile of stem cells can develop enough to speak out against its treatment, it's off to the plantat- I mean, laboratory.
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Anonymous2006-02-27 20:16
The Iraq was better off with Saddam Hussain in power. Terrorist are really just Freedom Fighters. Guns are dangerous and need to be outlawed by everyone except Police and military. Bush is worse than Hitler he is trying to destroy millions of Black people with gobal warming and hurricanes.
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Anonymous2006-02-28 12:39
>>28
Hurricanes and global warming are a direct result of the decrease in ninja pirates.
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Anonymous2006-02-28 13:12
>>27
Wrong, the groundwork of slavery was immorality. They didn't think they were inferior to fool moral people. Why do liberals always try to twist things around? Is it so hard to think "Maybe they are being evil because they don't care about sentient life.". Perhaps liberals want to be immoral and support racism and slavery!
Damn liberals and their racist slavery. Damn them! We need more black yuppies, but the liberal man just keeps dragging them down!