I'm not a racist, but I am...

This forum is full of it, but it's all true. The facts are there. Maybe there is a little hyperbole, sure black people can become doctors, fly planes etc... I'm a reasonable human being, I was raised in a liberal environment. I have bullied before, but never been racist and I see bigotry as immature, however I can't escape the fact that they are indeed very unusual looking.

http://unicast.org/forums/forum.php?forum_id=1

"golly, niggers are hideous with their buck teeth, black skin and brillo heads. Egads."

Just do a google search for skull shapes of different races and albino black people... CAucasian and mongoloid skulls are about the same and both these races have obviously exceeded negrito races in culture and civilisation. Even the obscure native americans constructed early civilisations. Their hunter gatherers tribes only existed due to their isolation, deprived of the circumstnaces that allow for agrarian civilisation. Given another 1000 years after the SPanish arrived, and the Gulf of Mexico would be like the Mediteranean circa 1000 B.C..

Though I can't say the same for black civilisations, they were not isolated, theywere exposed to the Egyptians, who were arabic, im not one of these nuts who thinks they are white. I really am not a racist or even a far right conservative...

I can't contain what i think anymore and I shouldn't be afraid of expressing my thoughts. They do look so animal like, it is as if they are a relic from evolution before human civilisation. In fact that's what they are, the only tribal systems outside of sub-saharran africa left by around 1300 were in areas which didn't have much food. Yet in the rich jungles of africa they still lived in the stone age, never utilising the wide range of plants there.

I think the out of africa theory is correct and that blacks haven't evolved much whilst caucasians and mongoloids have had to deal with the ice age.

How should I approach these facts rationally? Liberals say I should just ignore them, conservatives say I should become a whtie supremacist nut. Surely there is another way? Surely there is a way to get society to accept these facts without sinking into depths of paranoia and stupidity.

>>840

Again, I've been over all of this in the race thread. I refuted every last statement with studies that refuted the opposition's (you) claims. Fish it out if you want, but I'm not going through all that bollock's again. I'm not going to waste my time with a guy that doesn't know that interracial marriage has increased and continues to do so. Ever hear of hyper vigor?

Why should 19th Century statistics be taken at face value considering the fact that the tests themselves are culturally biased? Considering the fact that Europe said alot of fallacious things about "negroes" when they were trying to justify the atrocities of slavery and colonization? Come on now, give it up.

PS. I'm not white.

>>841
hyper vigor? oh lawd...

Just curious, why do most Egyptians have that specific eyebrow shape?  There was an Egyptian researcher on the history channel and she looked just like the facial features on a gold sarcophagus.

>>838
Seems as though you have been busy.
http//www.google.co.uk/...

Every fact in your article is either ambiguous or incoherent with actual facts. Here is a copy paste of my own. Also read this article

http://www.egyptorigins.com/ginger.htm

and respond to everything in the below post, or unfortunately you have lost this debate.

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Your choice of discussion board is slanted towards afro-centric views and anybody looking for a legitimate discussion would be wise to go elsewhere.

"Current archeology find that the egyptain civilization did come from the south,and there was not great migration from Asia,europe,or even Northern Africa. The population looks like it did originate with the nubian kingdom of Taseti,which does hold the oldest inscription of a pharoah. The god of amon was also adapted from the nubians,which is one of the most ancient deities."

Hierakonpolis is the oldest and strongest showing of predynastic egyptian culture. This city is much older than ta-seti, and egyptian culture in the latter resulted from egyptian conquest and occupation--the tale inscribed by pharoah djer.

"The language that the Egyptains spoke was Afroasiatic,which steams from Ethiopia,and then broke off into diffeent language categories. The Hausa tribe in Nigeria speak a form of Afroasiatic,called chadic. The Hausa also have streotypical black features. I am still proud of my race and their accomplisments,and I am not a Liberal either,but I do believe the ancient egyptains were indeed black people."

It's odd that the current classification of that 'afroasiatic' language is 'hamito-semitic.' BTW, what do you think the 'asiatic' part implies?

"You mention the Berber groups that live in Northern Africa,but you fail to mention the tuarege,which phenotypicaly look like black people."

They look phenotypically mixed because the taureg are a proven mixture of mediterranean(berber) and negroid(sub-saharan african). They're also little more than a few separate berber ethnic groups who were probably 100% mediterranean at one point in time.

"MYTH#1 Egyptians were white"

That should be followed by "MYTH#2 Egyptians were black."

I've come across this page on my own time. Does 'kinghorus' ring a bell? It's a slanted article that starts and ends by telling us the ancient egyptians were of mixed race, but all the "proofs" contained within are bolstered arguments about their "negroid" characteristics. Afro-centrists are uncanny, they seem to always use the genetic and cultural work that other scholars have done and twist the language to show how the ancient egyptians were 'black.' You, like many other fornicaters of 'negro egypt,' have twisted the term african to where you feel it only means negroids. Thankfully, there will always be an academic resistance which works on neutral ground rather than manipulating history for socio-political reasons.

I suggest you take a good look at the figures drawn on Ramses the 3rd's tomb;

http://www.delange.org/ValleyKings/EP16.htm

If you come across the "periodic table of races" that's supposedly drawn here, please show and tell.

Oh, and do yourself a favor and read the entire dialogue from the UNESCO debate ... you'll see who whiped the floor.

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>>844
Read his 1st paragraph.Replace every instance of black with white from your post and you get just the opposite.He may have the african agenda,but its obvious you have the white agenda which is explained in the 1st paragraph.Don't believe the white explanation of history.Whites have lied,stolen and cheated althroughout history.It may be a post from a different site but its undeniably fact.Noone can win this.If your white you say they white,if your black you say t hey are black.He never said they either.They were definitely mixed not Arab and it still shows to this day.So you should all go fuck yourselves cause none will convince the other.No one is listening to you.You are Eurocentric.He is Afrocentric,so who to believe.Judgeing by the decietful history of whites I lean towards his theory.Go test some skulls you Eurocentric.

Not that busy.You are very right.This is a cut and paste.Cut and summerised from one of my many 1.44mb floppy disk of my very own.
This is my work and my posts.You will even find this written in french since I am multilingual.I have posted this study on quite a few boards and written articles over the course of 5 years.I have been studying ancient egypt and ancient civilizations for 24 years.
Quite a few individuals belonging to boards I belong to have asked me to use my post on thier own websites,and as I see from you links that people have also cut and paste in other places without prior notice to me.This does not bother me.Knowledge should be free,as long as my words are not misconstrued.
I was reading some of the messages on this board after discovering it on the 14th of March.I had to spread the word.Again.I am the original.I hadn't realised my study had gotten so popular on the internet.This is a good thing.I am mixed race and harbour no bias either way.I just go on facts.


please join http://www.ezboard.com/

or http://www.raceandhistory.com/

or http://genforum.genealogy.com/my/

or http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi (I have to rejoin,but this is a good board)

If you want some real adult conversation or want to talk to me withouot bias.I wont be frequenting this board as it is full of adolescent behavior.
BTW.As long as the word Egypt is in the title,I will be their.Goodby kids.

>>838
was that a snippet from your publication or was it just an excellent lit review for the predominant simpleton on 4chan? in any case, that was a great effort and very insightful!

The bible,which was written some 4000 years ago is one of the examples of people with their own agendas.It has been translated many times and no two translations are the same.Seems like translators either misinterpreted or deliberitly changed whole passages or sentences to reflect what they wanted it to say or what they wanted readers to belive as fact.This is the same with history.

>>844 Why should he answer your foolishness when you have already madew up your mind that they are white.Intelligent people don't have time for the likes of you.He who seeks knowledge begins with humbleness.
http://www.egyptorigins.com/ginger.htm
This webpage does not save you and most of it is conclusive with what he is saying.E.G Sequenenre (Tao) c.1560 BC, 17th Dynasty:

In life Sequenenre was slender and muscular with a small, long, barrel-shaped head, covered with long black curly hair.

Queen Ahmose-Hentempet, c. 1580 BC, 17th Dynasty:

Photograph shows the head covered with thick dark wavy hair, dressed as in modern style.

Lady Rai, c. 1540 BC, 18th Dynasty:

Rai had abundant hair, arranged in small plaits which were divided into two thick masses on either side of her head.

Amenhotep II, c. 1419 BC, 18th Dynasty:

The head was covered with wavy brown hair which had turned gray at the temples.

Queen Meryet-Amun, c. 1440 BC, 18th Dynasty:

Her hair was brown, with no traces of gray, and is wavy. As seen in other mummies, the natural hair is interwoven with fake braids and tresses of the hair the same color as hers.

They are mixed.Thick,not thin wavy hair = negro ancestry regardless of what this racist Egyptologist (and there are quit a few biased ones)says.You just cannot have wavy hair unless you  are mixed with something.Have you ever seen a white man with thick wavy hair?Big curls maybe but not wavy.Mulatoes have wavy hair.Check them out sometime.
  White agenda it seems once again

Whites should have been wiped out a long time ago

White people don\'t have a right to exist. The whole world benefits from them being gone. I\'ll be glad when white people are wiped off the face of this planet for their crimes against humanity.

http://racetraitor.org/

There is nothing worthy in the history of European or American whites. You are complete and utter instruments of evil on this earth. You deserve everything you get. You don\'t have the right to exist culturally or genetically. You\'re just holding everybody else back. Good riddance.

Why fight truth? Why fight good?

Have you ever seen a white man with thick wavy hair?

Every time I look in the mirror. Every time I go to a Greek party too. Guess we gotta nigger in all of us.

The white race is a historically constructed social formation. It consists of all those who partake of the privileges of the white skin in this society. Its most wretched members share a status higher, in certain respects, than that of the most exalted persons excluded from it, in return for which they give their support to a system that degrades them.

The key to solving the social problems of our age is to abolish the white race -- in other words, to abolish the privileges of the white skin. Until that task is accomplished, even partial reform will prove elusive, because white influence permeates every issue, domestic and foreign, in U.S. society.

The way to abolish the white race is to challenge, disrupt and eventually overturn the institutions and behavior patterns that reproduce the privileges of whiteness, including the schools, job and housing markets, and the criminal justice system. The abolitionists do not limit themselves to socially acceptable means of protest, but reject in advance no means of attaining their goal.

>>851
Thick refers to texture.If you pluck out a single strand of hair from a white person and a single hair from a black person and measured it,you will see that the strand of hair from the white person is thinner than that of the black.Whites don't have wavy hair which is curves that go in all directions but are close nit.Imagine the swells in the sea,now imagine multiple swells really close to each other forming multiple waves.Maybe if you greased your hair down as a whiteman and combed it in an up and down fashion this can be achieved but its not naturally so.You probably dont understand what it means when blacks say he has good hair,but I have mulatto cousins so I can say thier hair is unique.Maybe yours is thin and wavy naturally I cant say.As for Greeks having nigger blood,I have read that some ancient greeks were also mulatto.You will be suprised to know that 1 out of 8 whites in America that have done ad-mixture tests find out they have at least 10% black in them,and also have a bit of native indian in them too.I challenge any white person to do an admixture test.

>>853

"nigger blood"

*sigh*

I am a white man that just can't get enough violet nigger pussy.So tight and sweet and they move that waist in bed like no other.Just grinding on my dick.Ummm Umm good.

"Keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females, too, until the social construct known as the white race is destroyed. Not deconstructed, but destroyed." Noel Ignatiev, white Harvard professor and editor of Race Traitor magazine.

"The white race is the cancer of human history." "Philosopher" and liberal guru, Susan Sontag

"When we say 'white people,' we mean the people of greed who value things over people, who value money over people. We know exactly what their values are and where they lead. We have all paid a terrible price for those values." "Diversity consultant," Harris Sussman, in a front-page article in Managing Diversity: a magazine subscribed to by gov't agencies (which are funded by tax-payer dollars), and cited in the Washington Times, 13 February 1997, p. A-10.


"I want to go up to the closest white person and say: 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing,' and then slap him for my mental health." N. Y. City councilman Charles Barron on the subject of reparations for slavery. (Nat'l Review Online, 6 Jan. '03.)

"Knowing what I know about what my people did, I wouldn't be able to respect myself if I weren't doing everything I can to have ... white people face up to this crime we committed and to right this great wrong." Donna Lamb, member of Caucasians United for Reparations & Emancipation. (Washington Post, 16 Aug. '02.)

[b]LETTERS[/b]

Are y'all some kind of provocateurs against progress? If there were ever an ideology calculated to sow dissension and division in the struggle for the most equitable social reality and to alienate from it those who must be drawn into it, yours would have to be it. Clues large and small suggest that it is calculation rather than merely egregious analysis and/or psychopathology. Among them are your confusion of what you describe as "white skin privilege" with class privilege, your failure to condemn all notions of racial and ethnic supremacy in addition to white supremacy, and your demonstration of bias in capitalizing black but not white when when the terms are used in the same common adjective/noun context.

Focusing entirely on the real and imagined white privilege you purport to see as the root of all evil not only reproduces, institutionalizes, and ossifies the divisions of race and ethnicity that have wrecked so many revolutionary movements and initiatives, it leaves class and capitalism intact. Verily, your "what we believe" statement does not ever address class and capitalism, implying that those original sources of exploitation and oppression would be cool with you if only white supremacy (and no other kind) were eliminated. Injecting such poisonous nonsense into the body of a revolutionary movement can only be interpreted as an effort to provoke that movement into counterproductive paths.

Bill Dunne, Marion Federal Penitentiary, Marion, Illinois

New Abolitionist responds:
We think any fair-minded reader can tell we are against the capitalist system which exploits all workers regardless of color. But if working-class solidarity is such a good idea, why doesn't it exist already? Why don't all the exploited, downtrodden, cast out and dispossessed whites in this country act together with the other proletarians and get rid of the capitalist system? Why are there so few so-called white people out in the streets against the police compared to the number of others?

One reason is that they settle for being white instead of acting to be free. Does white skin privilege exist apart from class privilege? If a person's color pushes him to the front instead of the back of the jobs line and the back instead of the front of the layoff line, it can't be a class privilege, because that person is still an exploited proletarian. Why are more than half of the residents where the writer lives black? Is that purely a result of class, or does it have something to do with color? We believe that if the rulers control black people by locking them up, they control potentially rebellious whites by not locking them up, at least not in the same numbers. The problem we seek to address is that a whole lot of the slaves think they are part of the master class because they think they are white. Don't blame us for bringing bad news.

The editors differ among themselves on capitalization; while they agree not to capitalize white (because white is not an ethnic group), they leave up to individual writers whether to capitalize black. Finally, if the writer believes we are conscious agents of the oppressor, why does he write us?

1 to 858 RACISTS.Such hate and melodrama on this board.Why can't we just live in the present day and love one another.is that so hard.I love and respect all races and frankly don't care who achieved what how and when.All white people are not monsters,all Asian people are not bad at driving,all blacks are not stupid or violent,all east indians don't smell like curry.We must try to coexist as one human race.

Can someone tell me what is the scientific name for the people of India.You know,like how whites are caucasoid and asians are mongoliod.Thanks in advance.

>>859
caucasoid

>>860

East Indians are NOT caucasoid you STUPID MOTHERFUCK. That is the stupidiest shit I've heard.

>>861 needs to learn to shot google.

>>862

I don't care what google says. Indians are not caucasoid. They're just *not*. If Indians are, so are pakis.

>>863
You're probably getting a bit confused with "caucasian", which has been abused to death thanks to the US deciding it is synonymous with "white" (it isn't).

Blame whoever came up with that bright idea.

>>1-1000
same person

>>863
He's being facetious.

>>865
That would be pretty fucking crazy.

>>863
Granted they have stark differences to caucasian whites on the other side of the continent, but taking into account the differences between caucasians and mongoloids and the even greater distances between these 2 races and negroes. It is just easier to classify them as Caucasian. There is certainly much more genetic transfer across the middle east than there is across the himalayas. Until the middle ages, the steppes were very lightly inhabitted, so there was a bottle neck in Bengal. Most Indians are not part of this bottleneck.

Hmm...  So, a study in the races of egypt is probably a study in the power of hybrid vigor (not "hyper vigor" as someone stated) rather than in the power of any race.

Which also explains the inteligence of europeans, as they are a mixture or Cro-Magnons and Caucasoids.  Continental Asians probably mixed with something at one point, the Japanese are a mixture of the Jomon and Yayoi peoples who inhabited the island in ancient times.

So the most powerful races are mixes.  Unfortunately, the black africans are just that; pure black africans. 

>>869
Umm.. Science please. Base your hypothesis on the facts, not the other way round. By your reasonning the sun orbits the earth. Cro magnon man had a larger brain capacity than caucasians, which means this was decreased when they mixed. Black Americans usually have around 30% white ancestors. The Yayoi period only came about due to the sudden stability China experienced and it's expansionist aims. Japan was colonised, not invaded. Also the few Chinese immigrants and the Japanese are very genetically similiar. Sort of like the difference between Germans and Frenchmen.

>>869
Not neccesarily.  The theory behind hybrid vigor is that it's the product of divergent evolution of certain alleles.  Other genes for certain traits might evolve in certain populations of people, for example, the genes that increased intelligence in asians might be different from the genes that increased intelligence in the caucasians.  Because both populations were under pressure to increase intelligence, both populations did.  However, because they did it separately, the genes that control intelligence will be different for each group.  This means that both sets of genes, working in tandem, will be able to increase intelligence in a hybrid that much more.

However, if common racist theory proves true, blacks haven't evolved since the other groups left africa.  This means, that all the genes that blacks have that control intelligence are not unique to blacks, they also exist in other groups.

Hybrid vigor has only been studied in pairings between Japanese and Caucasians.  This doesn't mean it doesn't exist in other groups. 

It seems Japanese/Caucasians were not the only pairings studied:

The Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study shows US children of African-Caucasian cross-ethnic unions score .47 SD lower on cognitive tests taken at age 17 than adopted children of Caucasian heritage, and .67 SD higher than adopted children of African heritage. (The average IQ of the adopting parents in this study was more than 1 standard deviation above the population mean of 100.) The exact interpretation of this study is disputed.

>>869
Hybrid vigor is hybrid vigor.  Sub-Saharan African dominant genes for tiny IQ-55 brains and sociopathy are something else entirely.

>>871 However, if common racist theory proves true, blacks haven't evolved since the other groups left africa.  This means, that all the genes that blacks have that control intelligence are not unique to blacks, they also exist in other groups.

What I'm saying is that even though a black hybrid may be smarter (genetically) than a black person, it is not smarter than than a white person.  BUT, an asian mix, or even native american, etc... mix might get some benefit from hybriization.  The genes that make asians smart are not the same that, for example, make jews smart.  So, when they are combined, they have a chance of BOTH being expressed.

But, because the blacks haven't evolved much since the groups that later became the caucasians and asians etc... left, the genes that allow them to become smart are also present in all the groups the split off from them.  Therefore, hybridization can't benefit them.

OH my god these last few posts are so undoubtably 4chan. 

Basically, whites should mix with asians but not blacks.  Good luck there, whitey.  I'm going to go fuck me an asian chick, and father some chiglets. 

>>875

Yeah, the last view post read like the geneology report written in feces with finger print.

You guys are talking so far out of your asses that I can smell the shit on your breath.

>>876

the last few* posts

You guys are talking so far out of your asses that I can smell the shit on your breath.

Cool. So, uh... care to give details?

>>875
Well, its better for the white race to mix up with a more intelligent race like the asians. Besides: they dont have so much ADIS

>>879
what is ADIS?