You know, philanthropic goals being fulfilled by short term greed leading to the long term benefit of humanity. Bill Gates founding a college or McDonald's donating to charity are small examples of this, but more obvious ones would be greed through harnessing cleaner fuel sources, or feeding third world countries, providing shelter, etc. Companies still make money, but get to benefit humanity as a whole. Or is this too Green Party thinking?
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Anonymous2005-10-23 15:06
Because that is the least greedy of the greedy options.
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Anonymous2005-10-23 17:12
>>2
I assume you mean because greedy people want the greatest possible profit, no matter what the consequences? That's something I agree with.
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Anonymous2005-10-23 18:37
Uh, that's kind of the whole idea behind capitalism.
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Anonymous2005-10-23 19:21
But without giving corporations free reign to destroy the world.
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Anonymous2005-10-23 20:29
>>5
Corporations and industry make life fucking easier, you government-educated numb nuts. It's the people that achieve and think and take advantage of opportunities and their own intelligence that make it to where you're able to loaf around on 4chan all day...
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Anonymous2005-10-23 22:06
Yes, but why not make sure you have more positive side effects than negative side effects? It does require a great deal of self imposed limitation and discipline not to screw over the populace to make a greater profit (McDonald's, Walmart), but a company can still be great without raping society.
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Anonymous2005-10-23 22:07
Corporations and industry make life fucking easier
If only this were always true.
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CCFreak2K!mgsA1X/tJA2005-10-24 3:37
That computer of yours? Built by a corporation. It's not prefabricated? It's still made of parts, like one may have come from nVidia or ATi, and another from ASUS. Your internet? Comes from an ISP, which may or may not be a large one. What about your car? That came from a corporation too, probably.
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Anonymous2005-10-24 3:41
Yeah, and the inefficient private health insurance, failing power grid, and world-class telco system too!
oh, wait...
People who claim the government solves everything are idiots. People who claim private interests solve everything... are also idiots.
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Anonymous2005-10-26 3:32
>>10
Yeah, because we have ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS with the power grid! And that Telco System... God damn it! I can never place a call when I need to!
Oh wait, I have a CELL PHONE! I can talk even when a telco terminal isn't nearby!!! Guess who I have to thank for that?
Certainly not business, certainly not.
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Anonymous2005-10-26 3:37
Forced total transparency?
In the future, there will be people paid to look over the corp's shoulders to bring public outcry to anything they do wrong.
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Anonymous2005-10-26 3:51
>>11
You bet ya do. Last I checked, the US grid goes down as often as a hooker on the street.
Oh, I guess I just imagined the entire east grid going down, and all those rolling blackouts in California too.
As for the phone? Broadband is lagging, and our cellular system kinda sucks compared to Europe and Asia.
Reread that last paragraph in >>10 a few times, retard. Maybe you'll get it after a while.
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Anonymous2005-10-26 10:51
Uhhh... Last I heard, broadband was only lagging in europe, and its growth is only slowing down in the US now because the market is saturated(e.g., everyone who wants it and wants to pay for it already has it). As for cellular, depends on your network, and if one company pisses you ogg, it's easy to make a switch. Not a natural monopoly (which is the only place where government is on more even terms with private industry). If you really hate the fact that your cellular "kinda sucks", pay a little extra for verizon.
And as for power, it just went out for a few hours, and we were like "What the fuck!?" then it was over. Nothing like the constant waste and inefficiency of governement.
I'm not saying doing things with public money is always a failure, I'm saying that the failings of government FAR outweigh the failings of private industry.
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Anonymous2005-10-26 13:02
"What the fuck!?"
The entire Easten grid went down, dude. That isn't just a "what the fuck?!".
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Anonymous2005-10-27 20:26
>>15
For ten hours dude. Just ten fucking hours. That is what the fuck. You didn't see anyone splitting each others heads open and feeding on the living side did you? Nobody really died, did they?
That's not a disaster. That <i>is</i> what the fuck.
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Anonymous2005-10-27 21:52
That <i>is</i> what the fuck.
It's nothing to do with the length of time (although some areas were down for more than 24, not 10, hours), but the fact that one error in one small place propagated so far that it shut down such a massive area.
Ten hours, or ten seconds, something like that is ridiculous. Its shouldn't be possible. But guess what?
There are planned daily power blackouts in most of the world. 10 hours is nothing.
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Anonymous2005-10-31 21:26 (sage)
In the richest nation on Earth, that can afford the best infrastructure possible? That actually had a reliable system until the private sector took over?
Do you guys know anything about history, or do you just jack off over the intellectual beauty of your political beliefs?
What a bunch of apologists.
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Anonymous2005-10-31 22:27
>>21
Excuse me, but we were built on capitalist ideology. Slave owners, plantions, etc.