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Jewish Israelies are racist?

Name: Anonymous 2005-08-11 23:41

As I was seeing documentary on how Israel was started and then later an interview with the leader of the Gazza settlers who are being moved, and each time I get this feeling from them that world owes them big time forever. They feel like as if everyone in the world owes them everything.

They also seem to show isolation. They don't like Arabs or Christians in their "land". They just refuse any sort of cultural/religion intergration.
 

Name: Anonymous 2005-08-23 12:43

>> 48

I wonder about your definition of "nationalistic" religion.

I know a lot of Christians who refer to the United States as "God's country", and I'm pretty sure that members of the Church of Latter Day Saints believe as much also. Yet again, don't forget that Catholics actually *have* a country, which their spiritual leader is the political leader of...

Furthermore, Islamic texts make extensive mention of the need for Islamic government, and most governments in the Arab world have extensive sections of their foundational documents which cite the necessity of Islamic law.

In point of fact, I would guess that there are vastly more religious governments (as in governments that acknowledge religion and or G-d and consider these concepts to be central in their foundational documents) in the world than areligious governments. I'm pretty sure that even Sweden, that atheist's paradise, cites divine providence (that is, G-d's will) as one of the aspects of national origin.

You're simply and completely wrong. Think harder before you post.

Name: Anonymous 2005-08-23 12:54

>> 48

On further thought, I'm thinking that perhaps you meant that no other religions mention specific countries as being holy? In which case that's total bullshit too, because the Qu'ran and the Hadith both enunciate the importance of Mecca, the Christians have Israel especially Jerusalem and Bethlehem (if you think they don't care, you're simply wrong. Think about the Crusades. The reason why they don't fight over them now is because they've held them continuously through the British or Jewish custodians since Hobbes was writing. Think the characterization of custodians is inaccurate? Then why do so many Christian countries help fund the Israeli military?), the Jews have Jerusalem the Hindi have the Ganges and the Buddhists have Tibet.

Now, many of these things I've named are not nations as such, but cities, so you may think that is a clever retort. But instead think outside the narrow confines of the historical perspective you were born into, and instead with the one the authors of these religions used: thousands of years ago, Mecca or Jerusalem or Bethlehem were states in and of themselves. There were no systems of confederation linking them into larger units of political organization. Every religion I named has its own "nation" to be "nationalistic" about.

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