Racism and Reality

Does admitting there are inborn differences between ethnic groups make you  a racist?

Discuss.

No.

Do it god damn it!

No. There are differences. For example, black folks are black. White guys are white. Black people owns at running. Asian people owns at ping-pong. Etc. We have some physical differences. Ignoring all this and pretending we're absolutely equal as opposite to what your very eyes see is asinine. But what can you expect from politically correct fags anyways?

Yeah, and black people live in da ghetto, probably not because they are sent there by whites, but because wherever they live in large numbers turns into one.

>>Asian people owns at ping-pong
best skill evar

No, that doesn't make you a racist, because people are simply not equal.
People are equal in worth or value.
So that means that human rights apply to everyone.

Race, however, is fictive.

lol, everyone is seriously discussing a fictive concept

>>9

LIKE DEMOCRACY OR "HUMANS"

LAWL

>>8

Yes, race is fictive, and the fact I see dark brown and pink people is a figment of my imagination. Peace, love, and LSD, man.

You are racist when those differences lead you to unconditionally hate, slander, beat, maim , kill someone.

Sorry to burst your bubble but people are not equal in worth, value, or potential. Someone who can design an engine does not have the same worth as someone who just sits behind a screen all day wanking off. Someone who is a janitor does not have the same value as someone who is a CEO (in a non euphemistic sense). Someone who is born with down syndrome does not have the same potential as one born otherwise. So why do we have human rights?  I don't know really. It's relatively new concept. Maybe we see distorted mirror images of ourselves everywhere we go. We don't like to see other people abused because of what it mean for us. Or maybe it's just another form of control.

It would be nice if race was fictive, but look through this sight site on any given day: Nigger this, WAP that, etc, etc. You may find it funny that a fictive concept is enraging some people. Wait til you're on the receiving end. Tell me if it's fictive then.

Yeah.  Humanity will only be complete when every generation lasts only ten years, to be replaced by smarter, better, faster stronger ETC... versions that they themselves designed. 

And inferior people, ones who fail at anything or show any weakness or stupidity must be killed immediately so that their bodies can be used to feed the next generation.

LOL

-Mommy, what's for lunch?
-4channer, sweetheart.

yes, theres nothing wrong with racism.

there are different levels of racism, some are just stereotyping, but you don't nessecarilly hate them, other levels of racism are you kill folks cuz they different from you.

you must protect your bloodline. different races are obviously a threat. kill the men, rape the women, and eat their children.

no don't rape their women, because women are an inferior gender and women of a other races are even more inferior. rape their men in their superior buttholes and kill their women. the babing eating part is probably correct.

traditionally, it is:
kill the men, rape then kill the women
make the children part of the winners society

>>19 >>17 Won't that dilute your own bloodline?

Do you think they cared?

Nah, they just wanted some fun after the battle. Ergo, rape the women, take a few home as trophies, and either kill the kids or use them as slaves.

They only gave a shit about "bloodline" when it came to their own families and heirs.

>>1
Yes, but racism is not inherently wrong.  Hating and killing are wrong.  Prejudice & over-generalizations are stupid and lead to error.

>>20

I read somewhere about the anglos sending the amerindian kids to boarding school after they defeated them.

And a bunch of other stories.

lawl, all asians are good at math

lawl, all asians are good at math

White people are mediocre.

white people rule the world, and jews rules the white people

Nonsense, Jews just do banking and accounting. Italians are better at money than they are.
Now, Italian Jews....there's who you gotta watch for.

Nonsense, Jews just do banking and accounting. Italians are better at money than they are.
Now, Italian Jews....there's who you gotta watch for.

i'd say most of it's cultural, with maybe 1-5% genetics on avg.

And even when it's certainly genetic, like Ashkenazi jews with that neural mutation, it usually means that within a population, the frequency of the trait is higher than normal.

so most ashkenazi jews you meet are just as shitstupid as everyone else.

I'd say most of it's genetic, with 30-45% cultural difference on average.  Smart people adopt kids, and the kids can be just as dumb.

REVIVING THIS OLD FUCKING THREAD

My personal belief is that the person we are is 30% genetics, 20% chance, and 50% history and experience.

Recognizing genetics isn't racism.  Neither is discrimination based on intelligence or education, however racists to not attempt to make this distinction.

i think we are all base animals and only if we use the universally available truth will we become worthwhile beings.

That said i did just troll the ADL, i reported scientology -see if you can spot which OTHER group or organization also commits these CRIMES. (grrrr how can an opinion be a crime? i'm not racist but that doesn't mean i want to lock them all up FFS I'M NOT BLACK THAT DOESN'T MEAN I WANT TO LOCK THEM ALL UP!

"The Church of scientology are breaking just about every civil right on the roll, an organization such as yours which has done so much good in the world and is so well respected as a honest bastion of truth in a turbulent world should stand up and say this is wrong! Scientology have very powerful legal teams, pressure groups and strong arm tactics -they decry 'religious bigotry' every chance they get to the extent that maybe soon people may start to think; is this #real# religious bigotry or is someone just saying that because it's an effective way to get their own way?

The worst of their crimes comes from 'Psychiatry: INDUSTRY OF DEATH' (show touring USA) in which they claim the holocaust was caused by psychiatrists as part of an evil plot to (for some reason) punish mankind. This sickens me, anyone using something as very real as the suffering of millions during WW2 to try and further their own ends is SICK, yet alone embellishing the story with easily debunked lies!"

lulz

no

HURRRRRRRR DURRRRRRRRR I'M A RETARDED FAILURE AT LIFE WHO SUCCEEDED IN NOTHING, BUT LOOK I HAVE PALE SKIN AND THERE ARE SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE WITH WHITE SKIN AND I HEARD WHITES HAVE HIGHER AYEE-KWOO THAN BLACKS THEREFORE I'M BETTER THAN EVERY NIGGER OUT THERE, SEE I'M NO LONGER THE WORST HUMAN BEING AROUND, BECAUSE I'M WHITE!!!!

>>37
HURRRRRRRR DURRRRRRRRR I'M A RETARDED FAILURE AT LIFE WHO SUCCEEDED IN NOTHING, BUT LOOK I AM AN ANTI-RACIST AND THERE ARE SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE THAT ARE ANTI-RACISTS AND I HEARD WE'RE ALL 99.9% EEK-WALL AND WE SHARE A COMMON ANCESTOR THEREFORE EVOLUTION STOPPED AT THE NECK FOR HUMANS, SEE I'M NO LONGER THE WORST HUMAN BEING AROUND, BECAUSE I'M FIGHTING AGAINST DEM RACISTS!!!!

>>38
cry more, unoriginal retarded failure at life.

>>38
I loled.

>>37
average stormfronter

THE NEGRO

Of all the mass imbecilities which have demoralised mankind, this of racial equality between all peoples, White, Black, Red and Yellow, is the most inane. Politically, it has already stirred up all the minor races into a state of belligerence and discontent which will impose minor wars on the dominant nations for years to come. But when it comes to racial integration between the White and Black races, sanity has descended to the looney bin of the impossible, because the intermixture of blood between those races must degrade the White race to the level of the Negro and cannot raise the Negro to the level of the White. Where today we see some evidence of the effect of education on the Negro it is the White blood in him that stirs some animation in his sluggish mental faculties, but the Negro pure, as he exists in Africa, cannot be educated even up to the standard of the lowest content of the White race. He may learn to parrot all the political and sociological clichés of today, but unless he is buttressed by the White race, and policed by it, he must relapse back to the jungle, which is his predestined habitat.

There appears to be an illusion today that this age is the first one in which the Negro has come into contact with a White civilisation, and so had a chance to benefit by its cultural and sociological ordinances. This is not the case. Since the genesis of this present civilisation some six or seven thousand years ago, the Negro has had contact with many past episodes of civilisation, but always, as each subsided, he has relapsed back to the jungle. The other three races, White, Yellow and Red, have devised their own civilisations, and have maintained them through the ages, but it is only in quite recent years that the Negro has come into relations with them. As in the past, his status has been one of slavery, because he has never been able to compete culturally with their achievements in the arts and crafts and intellectual standards. Nor can he compete today with those same achievements, because he utterly lacks the creative faculty: he has no thumbs. The only thing he ever learned to do was to smelt iron ore and hammer out his spear heads. That weapon was essential to the preservation of his existence in his tribal wars, and his food derived from wild animals able to defend themselves with teeth and claws.

Save for the Chinese, and other Asiatic peoples, all other civilisations were generated on the shores of the Mediterranean and the Negro penetration of them was very slight, except, perhaps, with the Egyptians, who were themselves a dark coloured race, but with no relation to the Negroid peoples. Only the Moors and Arabs, because of their geographical contiguity with Africa, have kept up the slave trade with Negroes, but sexual union with them was strictly prohibited. Or impossible for that matter. By a very simple clinical ritual, the Negro became a harmless guard and menial to the Harem. It is only since the colonisation of Africa by the British, Dutch, French and Belgian peoples that the Negro has become a momentous world problem within the last two decades. The British, French and Belgian peoples solved it for themselves by handing their colonies over to the Negroes. The Dutch could not do that. They had been so long in South Africa that they had built up another white race there—the Boers. And there, the world may be assured, they will remain, and the Negro will not be permitted racial equality with them. What must happen shortly between those peoples is already predestined. The only other country on which the full weight of the Negro falls is America.

And the Politician’s solution to it of race integration is a desperation measure which never can succeed, as the politicians themselves know, but at present, they dare not do anything about it, for President Johnson won the presidential campaign by handing himself over to the largest section of the community to command the vote, just as Roosevelt did to capture the presidential chair. We know that section, which is the pestilential problem of all peoples who seek to keep a sane balance of rationality in the conduct of their political and sociological affairs. In Australia, we call them Wowsers—a stigma word which Mencken incorporated in his American Language, but as yet Americans have not adopted it. A stigma word has great power.

In America the Wowser is the self-elected Dogooder—the temperance crank, the Purity Leaguer, the anti-saloon leaguer, the Comstock bookshop smasher and picture slasher; in short, that chapel product of the cheap suburbs and the rural back blocks which seeks to impose its own horrible codes and doctrines on all that makes life tolerable for well constituted humanity. They are the people who imposed Prohibition on America and very nearly wrecked the country. In Russia, they were largely responsible for the Revolution by cutting off the people’s need for liquor during the 194 war. They are the Pacifists—the peace at any pricers, the appeasers at any threat of war which thereby makes it inevitable by inviting aggression from piratically inclined nations. They are today trying to cripple Johnson’s handling of the Viet Nam war: the finest piece of statecraft since the great days of England as a world power, when half a dozen words from Lord Salisbury was enough to send Russia scuttling back from the Oxus. It is a great pleasure to know that our men are fighting with the Yanks, and that more are being trained to follow, if needed.

It is the Wowser, then, to use one stigma term for a generic type common to America, England, and Australia, who is doing all the mischief today by inflating the Negro with a state of megalomania which convinces him that he is the victim of monstrous injustice by the white peoples, and all revenges on them are his by right of martyrdom. And that revenge he will take whenever he has power to do so.

We must concede him injustice so far in that the Whites have invaded his country and taken possession of large sections of it. In the past, they made a commodity of him in the slave market. Those same Whites have now handed back to him the sections of country they had occupied and have freed him from slavery. Justice can go no further than that.

But America, swung off a sane balance of rationality by the maudlin sentimentality of the Wowsers for the assumed sad lot of the Negroes, has allowed its politicians to establish them in equal civil and social rights with the Whites. They have ordained that the white children must consort intimately with the black offspring from infancy to adolescence, and that alone insures sexual intimacy between the two races. That American mothers—always so passionately possessive over their young—should have allowed them to do such a noxious thing is evidence that they are too dazed by the bulldozing tactics of the politicians to realise its inevitable consequences. It is assumed that education will dispose of the physiological compulsions inherent in all such propinquity of the human species.

Education! This age has become besotted over its assumed potentialities to perform a universal miracle, which is that text books alone can create a civilisation. It ignores the irrefutable evidence that only a civilised mind can be educated. Education is nothing more than a procedure for exercising intellectual faculties which are a content of the mind at birth. It has taken the white race six thousand years to develop those special faculties on which all civilisations have been built. The craftsman’s fingers, the musician’s ear, the artist’s hand and eye, the scientist’s investigation of all natural phenomena are inherited from progenitors who have left behind them the brain cells, and the muscular reflexes essential to all creative effort. And it is now assumed that education, in a generation or two, will allow the wretched Negro to develop those special faculties and so allow him to compete on equal terms with the White race as a civilised being. Imbecility can go no further than such a preposterous assumption.

Already the Negro mass is in a vicious state of resentment because it has not straightway been vested in all the rights and privileges of the Whites. The Los Angeles episode is a sufficient evidence of a universal state of mind among the Negroes. And that is only the beginning of the trouble. When he finds that the higher-class whites will not consort with him on equal terms, and that there is no place for him among the trained working class, no police force in the world will be adequate to control him.

Americans are not a docile people when politicians impose arbitrary interdictions on the free conduct of their civic rights and their private lives. The politicians’ failure to inflict Prohibition on the American people is evidence of what they must expect by this proposal to impose racial integration with the Negroes on them. It only required an adjustment of the legal code to dispose of Prohibition, but no such adjustment can solve the Negro problem for them. There is only one possible solution to that, but I am not going to take it on myself to suggest it. It must be already pregnant in the minds of all higher class American thinkers today.

>>42
old copypasta is oollllldddd

>>43
But have you actually read the whole thing?

>>44
Have you read the Death of Ivan Ilyich?

>>45
Yes, several times. I studied Russian literature at Moscow for 5 years, I attended lectures across the world, wrote a thesis on the works and philosophies of Leo Tolstoy and several essays on all of his works including "The Death of Ivan Ilyich".

black people = white people > niggers = white supremacists

>>47
Truth. People should be judged by the quality of their character, thus we should discriminate and oppress stormfags (technically they are not white supremacists) and niggas.

>>47
>>48
Idiots arguing against a strawmen "white supremacists".

>>49
cry more

>>49
500 points to the first who spots the hilarious irony in the statement by this retard.

As the OP says "admitting there are inborn differences between ethnic groups" =/= white supremacist.

>>49
Dumbass, we made it clear we hate niggas and stormfags. White people and black people fucking hate the assholes in their race, bitch all your want about assholes from other races that won't stop you from looking like one.

>>53
In other words, you're biased against rednecks and niggers.  Amirite?

>>52
Yes, because jews are superior.

>>47
>black people = white people

Go and try to find some scientific studies which prove your point. Beacuse I can find loads which prove black =/= white.

>>56
cry more, retarded failure at life.

>>56
someone didn't get it. Enjoy being under the > sign.

>>56
See - the Olympics

- Olympic events - different ethnic groups do better at different events.
- Blacks have longer jaws and more fucking teeth than humans, as well as lower cranial capacity.
- IQ tests have consistently shown seperate racial IQ medians, from 85-black, 102-white, 106-Asian.  And before some moron starts squawking about ZOMG CULTURLA BIAS LOL, think about this:  ASIANS SCORE HIGHER.  So either there's no cultural bias, and Asians are more intelligent as a race than everyone else, or there IS cultural bias, and Asians are VASTLY more intelligent than everyone else.  Either way, you lose.
- Even when adjusted for income, blacks still commit murder 1.3 times as often as whites at the same income level, 3 times for rape, and 2.6 times as often commit property theft.  Before some moron screams ZOMG RACIST COPZ LOL, the crime rates are pretty similar in any African country you want to shake a stick at, which are remarkably little plagued with white cops.

>>60
Not against your post but note also that there's different kinds of intelligence measured by IQ tests. Asians have high spatial visual ability and only average verbal ability. Jews score VERY high on verbal intelligence. Verbal appears to be the most important type of intelligence for "success". This can explain why Asians are very poorly represented in intellectual circles for their large numbers and supposedly high IQs.

Also don't let libfags use income adjusted stats as an excuse. Blacks are PRONE to being poor, which is exactly the same as being prone to crime. Being poor is not a fucking excuse.

>>61

Exactly, since the correlation between IQ and economic standing is just about 1:1.  Turns out, with some exceptions, stupid people don't get rich.

And, again, even compared to white people at the SAME income level, eliminating "zomg theyre poor dats why", blacks still commit violent and property crime in nearly whole multiples of the whiteys.  Who are just as poor as they are.

Finding out that they've got extra frigging teeth compared to us is interesting.

>>62
lol got source for the more teeth thing? I can't believe I haven't heard of that one.

So we have established that Jews are the master race, followed by Asians, and Niggers exist to make Whites feel better about their pathetic selves.

>>64
Apart from the whole construction of modern civilisation thing that will be rememberred and honoured even if there are no whites 200 years from now since it is the only logical realistic conclusion and will win out over any "progressive" propoganda about how the zulus invented everything 5000 years ago and whitey done stoled it from them.

>>64
On paper Chinks should be superior based on IQ but in reality they fucking fail. I think Asians' problem is they are BORING DRONES who lack any kind of soul or creativity. Or do you think a mean IQ score explains everything?

Jews have superior minds than whites on average, but their total achievements still fall well short. Also they only thrive by feeding off Western civilization.

>>62
Explain George W Bush then?

non-racism = racism

>>66
No it's just the Japanese who don't have souls.

>>66
No, they are so smart they just have retarded whites do all the work, and since they were behind-the-curtains rulers according to the conspiracy theories, the "achievements" of western civilizations is as much theirs, if not more.

>>62
I'm sure the inbred rockefeller kid is smarter than a nobel laurate scientist, riiight.

>>66

On paper whites should be superior based on IQ but in reality they fucking fail. I think whites' problem is they are BORING DRONES who lack any kind of soul or creativity. Or do you think a mean IQ score explains everything?


see what I did there? Enjoy being #3.