In 1989, sociologist Mary DeYoung reviewed the literature published by pedophile organizations for public dissemination. She found that pedophile organizations used the following strategies to promote goals of public acceptance of pedophilia:
Adoption of "value-neutral" terminology. According to Herdt, an anthropologist who has studied sex between adults and children in other cultures, pedophile advocates need to replace "dull and reductionistic" terms like pedophilia and abuse when discussing sex between "a person who has not achieved adulthood and one who has". Moreover, words like "child" or "childhood", which have psychologically developmental meaning, should be "resisted at all costs".
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Kintama2006-02-23 22:00
Redefining the term "child sexual abuse". Another recurring theme among those seeking to gain social acceptance for pedophilia is the need to redefine or restrict the usage of the term "child sexual abuse". For example, Gerald Jones (1990), an Affiliated Scholar at the Institute for the Study of Women and Men in Society at the University of Southern California, suggested that "intergenerational intimacy" should not be considered synonymous with child sexual abuse. According to her, the "crucial difference has to do with mutuality and control" (p. 278). Jones suggested, "Intergenerational attraction on the part of some adults could constitute a lifestyle 'orientation', rather than a pathological maladjustment" (p. 288).
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Kintama2006-02-23 22:00
Promoting the idea that children can consent to sex with adults. The reconceptualization of children as willing sexual "partners" along with the decriminalization of consensual sexual relations is perhaps the key change sought by pedophile advocates. To counter developmental arguments that children cannot give informed consent, for example, David L. Riegel (2000) stated in his book Understanding Loved Boys and Boylovers, "Anyone who holds to the idea that a young boy cannot give or withhold informed consent has never taken such a boy shopping for new sneakers" (p. 38). Many activists in the childlove movement, amongst them Tom O'Carroll, Frans Gieles and Lindsay Ashford, actively campaign against the idea that children are unable properly to consent to sex.
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Kintama2006-02-23 22:00
Questioning the assumption of harm. One of the greatest barriers to the decriminalization of sex between adults and children are the hundreds of studies demonstrating a consistent association between child sexual abuse and negative outcomes. Advocates of pedophilia have attempted to change these barriers in a variety of ways. For example, they often attribute the negative outcomes on parents or professionals who seek to prevent or intervene in intergenerational relationships. Riegel (2000), for instance, asserted: "The acts themselves harm no one, the emotional and psychological harm comes from the 'after the fact' interference, counseling, therapy, etc., that attempt to artificially create a 'victim' and a 'perpetrator' where neither exists" (p. 21). Similar arguments are made by SafeHaven Foundation, an organization for "responsible boylovers". On their website, they wrote, "The child abuse industry ... takes a boy who has enjoyed pleasurable and completely consensual sexual experiences with another boy or man, and traumatizes him in an attempt to convince him that what he did was 'wrong'". In addition, SafeHaven argues that, "many of the supposed traumas elicited by psychotherapy turn out to be nothing more than the result of the False Memory Syndrome" (SafeHaven Foundation, 2001).
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Kintama2006-02-23 22:01
Promoting "objective" research. Pedophile advocates such as Edward Brongersma have argued that investigators of child sexual abuse have biased views. (Brongersma, 1990). As such, they frequently call for a less emotional and more non-biased approach to the subject (e.g., Geraci, 1994, p. 17; Jones, 1990). A study that is frequently cited as embodying the type of "objective" research needed is Theo Sandfort's (1987) research on boys' relationships with pedophiles, published in the peer-reviewed Journal of Sex Research. The study was considered the epitome of "objectivity" by some advocates of intergenerational sexual relationships (e.g., Brongersma, 1990, p. 168; Jones, 1990, p. 286), but critics have pointed to evidence which suggests that the study was "politically motivated to 'reform' legislation" (Mrazek, 1990, p. 318).
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Kintama2006-02-23 22:01
Declassification of pedophilia as mental illness. Activists reject the notion that pedophilia is a mental illness, believing that its classification as such is a political attempt to stigmatize a socially unacceptable paraphilia. Members of the movement quote Moser and Kleinplatz (2003), who suggest that all paraphilia be removed from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). They write that "objective", non-culturally-biased criteria for classifiying sexual behavior as psychotic is exceptionally difficult generally. For example, topless sunbathing, they note, is legal in some countries and treated as exhibitionism in others.
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Kintama2006-02-23 22:01
In a 1998 newspaper interview, Dutch psychiatrist Gerald Roelofs suggested the following five guidelines for relationships between adults and children:
There should be no coercion
The child should be free to stop at any moment
Sexuality should be compatible with the psychosexual development of the child
The parents should know about [the sexual aspect of] the relationship
The child should be able to openly discuss the relationship without fear of disapproval
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Kintama2006-02-23 22:02
About the same time, Frans Gieles, in conjunction with the JORis workgroup of the Dutch Society for Sexual Reform (NVSH) proposed the following four guidelines:[13]
Self-Determination: Children must always have it in their own power to regulate their own sexuality, their relationships with others and their own lives.
Initiative: Even in a later stage of the relationship, it is always the children who make the choice to have sex.
Freedom: At any moment within the relationship with an adult, children must have the freedom to withdraw from the relationship.
Openness: The child should not have to carry unreasonable secrets.
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Kintama2006-02-23 22:02
More recently, subsequent discussions about these guidelines have produced a synthesis of these earlier proposals. The following four guidelines have now been officially adopted by MARTIJN and form the basis of the ethos of the Human Face of Pedophilia:
Consent of both child and adult
Openness towards the parents of the child
Freedom for the child to withdraw from the relationship at any moment
Harmony with the child's development
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Kintama2006-02-23 22:03
A more in depth and broader code of ethics of moral pedophiles had been penned, no observation of such has been recognized. It states explicitly that,
Any violation, extension, or limitation of the code will be considered an act worthy of investigation, and possibly grounds for removal, by the local legislature, of the Childlover from the child depending on the child's suffrage, and other individual case circumstances resulting from relationship on a case-by-case basis..." and that "Any breach of these terms is not considered an act worthy of the Childlove movement. The movement will uphold these terms and these terms alone, as guidelines for consensual relationships with children should any adult choose to label them self a Childlover and carry out any relationship with a human child.
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Anonymous2006-02-23 22:04
EARTH'S LAST CITY, OLYMPUS, RSOE FROM THE ASHES OF A GLOBAL WAR ON THE BACKS OF BIOROIDS, ARTIFICIAL CLONES WHO MAKE UP HALF THE CITY'S POPULATION. UNDER THE STRICT GUIDANCE OF A SUPERCOMPUTER, HUMANITY'S LAST SURVIVORS ENJOY AN IDYLLIC PEACE, BUT ONLY ON THE SURFACE... HUMAN TERRORISTS WITHIN THE MILITARY SEEK A RETURN TO POWER AND CLASH WITH THE GOVERNMENT'S ES.W.A.T. FORCES LED BY THE LEGENDARY SOLDIER, DEUNAN KNUTE AND HER BOYFRIEND WHO IS 75% PEDOPHILE.
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Anonymous2006-02-23 22:45
Sex is by nature a secret thing. Kids must always be kept in plain view of the adults that protect them, that is, society at large.
That is why there is such a conflict. THAT is why you fucking sicko baby fuckers should be shot.
>>452
"THAT is why you fucking sicko baby fuckers should be shot."
Only fundamentalist women in their late forties use the descriptor "sicko" in a discussion. Fall down a well and die.
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Anonymous2006-02-24 17:01
>>454
Only someone who knows he is wrong refuses to engage in rational debate, therefore you are conscious of your decision to commit evil and should be impaled as a deterant against the crime and to prevent you from committing felonies again.
452 Isn't fundamentally making a rational argument.
"Sex is by nature a secret thing. Kids must always be kept in plain view of the adults that protect them, that is, society at large.
That is why there is such a conflict."
I don't think this even constitutes a complete thought.
Is the argument that because children cannot be in plain sight during coitus that "there is a conflict"?
I don't even know what to say... that might be the most asinine thing i've ever read.
455... stop being uppity on the internet. particularly if you're the same poster as >>452
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Anonymous2006-02-24 22:11
Pre-pubescent boys have great cornholes. They also give great oral. Of course, a hot 9 year old girl gives great oral and hand jobs. They like it too!
oh my God. i've never heard a pedo try and explain themself before. it just makes me hate them even more. u pedos are sick and should be shot if u get caught so u can't wreck any more childrens lives. u r social freaks who are just not normal in the head. crawl off and die somewhere. please.
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Anonymous2006-02-28 12:04
>>464
It was natural until the liberals moved for higher ages. Juliet was about 12 or 13 when she fell in love with Romeo and that's like one of the greatest romance story in English.
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Anonymous2006-02-28 13:32
>>466
It is natural to fall in love when you enter puberty, but not to have sex. In an age without antibiotics and social services childbirth was postponed till the age of 19 and marriage was just a way of proving that you are not an asshole to the parents until they finally give you the go ahead to have children.
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Anonymous2006-02-28 14:34
>>467
are you fucking kidding? people then regularly had babies when they were 14-15 years old. read more history books.
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Anonymous2006-02-28 14:53
>>468
NO U!
Not Jews, Christians and Muslims, to a certain extent. Sex abstinence was considerred pious and was a status symbol, noble women were expected to remain virgins till their mid 20s to prove their virtuousness even if they were married. Age 15-16 were the usual age for peasants, tending to increase in more zealous regions.
Sex before the age of 19 was a threat to the girl's life in those days and they had every reason to want their daughters to stay virgins till they were mature and to make sure their husbands were chivalrous.
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Anonymous2006-02-28 14:54
They also had reason to believe that sex with underage girls was evil, since death during childbirth in 14-15 year olds was common.
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Anonymous2006-02-28 16:40
to any pedos out there - everyone normal hates you. i say catch a pedo once, cut off his dick and testicles. then see if he offends again. and also tattoo the word "pedophile" on his forehead and THEN throw him in prison. see how long he would last then. because even though the people inside are druggies and murderers, they are still much better people than pedophiles, and hate you like the rest of us. if a pedo STILL reofends after serving his time and without his balls, he REEEEEEALY is not normal in the head and should be tortured to death. i hate pedos with all my heart. if i ever see a pedophile in the act he won't be long for this earth, i promise you that. another thing i wasn't even abused as a child, and i had a really happy time growing up. i just hate pedos. why? because i like to think of myself as a normal person.
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Anonymous2006-02-28 16:42
oh yeah and another thing being abused as a child is no reason to grow up to be a child molester, just get councilling or something, and surely you realise how much being abused screwed you up, so why inflict that on someone else???
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Anonymous2006-02-28 17:09
>>472
liberals fuck with their heads, they are evil, vote republican
I'll bet Jesus is laughing up there in his U.F.O right now...
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Anonymous2006-03-03 6:08
In nature,when animals hit puberty,...yes they also become sexualy mature,that is when they mate and have there 1st child.This would be roughly 1 and a half to 2 years in dogs say,and 11-13 yrs old in humans.Its only society that mentaly conditions minds from young to resist this natural urge and see it as bad.This delaying off sexual maturity all helps society to keep its gears going effectively.Children having children is just dead weight and wasted tax payer money to support young mothers who obviously will not be working and making money for themselves as well as the government.Maybe I can sum it up this way,its bad for business.Don't forget that we are all cattle to the government.Without working adults not restrained by children at a young age,the society would be in poverty and there would be less develpoment.Having said all that,,...I personally do not condone child abuse and I am not a pedophille and think it is disgusting and would kill (literally) anyone who ever tries to do that 2 one of my kids.There are tons of 18 to 35 yr old women to enjoy.I too am a product of that mental conditioning,but I am intelligent enough to know that it is not natural.Society causes many unatural anomalies
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Anonymous2006-03-03 7:42
yes they also become sexualy mature,
Not exactly.
Take a look at the diameter of the gap in the pelvis bone structure of a "11-13 yrs old" and an adult. Now consider just how many adult women need cesarean section to give birth.
There's nothing wrong with fucking at that age, but it's pretty dangerous to get pregnant. The baby's head not fitting through the birth canal is just one of your worries (and a pretty deadly one without surgery).
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Anonymous2006-03-03 8:35
>>479
The only answer is lots of oral. They love it! Anal is fun too. Kids are soooooo fun to play with.