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I have to disagree, sort of. With everyone, including the Europeans. I'm going to try to figure this convoluted subject out, I could be wrong about all of this, but here it is:
I think we are hard-wired with a natural aversion to our mothers and immediate family members. We don't have an idealization of them, we have an "aversion" to them. Would you want to have sex with someone that even looked like your mother?
Freud also said that when males prefer females who are physically larger than they are that these males must have more than natural feelings for their mother. If the guy was not outright making things up, I don't think he had a good understanding of this issue.. I think it's possible that he or a subject of his had an aversion to his mother that disturbed him in some sense that carried over to his ideation of sex with women and Freud found all of this to be a very common psychological phenomenon, and he took that knowledge and coupled it with child psychology and tried to apply it to adults by exploiting all of that knowledge into pseudo-scientifical sophistry (that is, if he indeed does apply it to adults, I don't have a good understanding of his work. Maybe it's other people exploiting Freuds ideas?)..
It probably wouldn't be too hard to exploit, for control, the naivety of some fellow who lacked understanding of himself and who also happened to have strong sexual aversions to his mother, maybe feeling the idea of the mother invading some private space of his sexual being in some instances. Someone sophisticated enough could cause such a person to think that, in reality, they wanted to have sex with their mother.
Maybe the gravitation to the opposite(if "opposite" is not arbitrary), to pedophilia, is a natural gravitation away from the aversion and to physiological purity, only there is one problem with that: it's clearly antisocial to act on your pedophilic lust.
Antisocial personality disorder is having a lack of compassion for others. Seeing a weakness in others and wanting to exploit it for your own gain shows a lack of conscience--this is the gist of antisocial behavior.
The idea that most pedophiles resist following through with their instinctive lust and decide not to act on it due to the harm it would cause the object of their affection is also very popular and makes much sense to me.
Basically, what I would like to say is that when pedophiles are not antisocial they will not violate children, and if they do violate children, possibly while rationalizing that the child isn't being harmed, they are violating the child, and themselves as well. If it were carried out within a culture such as ours it could also harm other pedophiles, and society itself.
As for the issue of incest, it's easier for a me to look at bisexually (here, this word is not meant in a sexual orientation/preference sense but as incest applies to both sexes, whereas the whole pedophile thing is easier for me to understand from the male POV). Whether it be a son and his mother or a daughter and her father, for it to occur and not cause a major psychological disturbance in the son or daughter, that individual would have to completely lack the aversion, and probably have to be psychologically disordered in a way that makes them view their mother/father as something other than a mother/father, if that is possible, and/or in an extreme and odd case of antisocial personality, simply as an "object".
Even for someone to be erotically stimulated by the thought of having sex with their mother, father, etc. would be a sign of psychological disorder unless it's not recurrent and happens while they are in a dream-state or something of that nature. If one is not antisocial, can think efficiently (i.e they are not retarted), the odds of them having Oedipal Syndrome (if that means someone who wants to bang his mother) or "oedipette syndrome", for that matter, would have to be nearly impossible. How this applies to Freudianism, I don't know. I would have to research it.
Sorry if some of that has poor grammar. I'm not an expert at it and I didn't want to set here for a long period of time trying to correct and simplify it.
Oh, and if it matters for the reader, I do have some pedophile tendencies. However, my strong attraction to females is not limited or primarily focused at young females. In fact, many people, of any age level and especially under 14, succeed at being "not my type". I cannot be attracted to a girl just because she's young and innocent so I'll have to disagree with whoever posted something about how pedophiles only want to infect innocence. or whatever it was.
I do agree that this doesn't really fit into a politics category. Maybe Science would have been more appropriate.