Copy of B discussion part 3 (yes the board ate it)
-Well, people are gonna believe whatever shit they want to, in the end. So those with similar morals might as well get together and just wipe out the anomalies, like the loli and guro fetishists already. No jail or anything, just a quick dispatch. Clean up the gene pool and make the species a little more orderly.
-And you can get idiots to believe that there's no such thing as a sexually interested or active pre-teen.
-If someone's gonna rape a kid, he's not gonna wait to read it in a manga first. Shouldn't blame these in my opinion, could actually have the opposite effect of what you say as statistics seem to support (not that statistics are accurate, but in any case).
-They'd come back. You can never elimnate "anamolies". Just be careful of who you put in charge or they might come killing anyone who engages in oral sex, handjobs, mutual masturbations, or likes sex for reasons other than procreation- citing it as "unnatural".
-Why must you fuckers think that sexually active means emotionally capable? Fucking teenagers for the most part aren't even emotionally capable for sex. They end up having it and then they get fucked up over it.
-child porn involves rape yes it should be banned as should any form of "glorified rape" (thats when the woman is shown to be enjoying it) because it encourages anti-social sexuality. rape is not the same as glorified rape, murder is not the same as glorified murder. Books that teach people to kill are illegal (the terrorist handbook with poison and explosive formulas) why not books that make rape seem like a nice thing!
If we can jail a politician for inciting a lynching (you don't have to follow his orders but some will!) then we should be able to jail a lolikon artist for inciting a rape in the minority of people who don't ever understand another way of having sex.
-Yeah everyone pretty much needs to die, but sometimes I get to thinking that maybe humans can create an equilibrium where there isn't much violence/instability, and that involves removing people who would think about having sex with children among others.
-and why exactly does child porn have to be rape?
-prepubescent not preteen dumbass
I was 10 and a half when I first had my period and started thing about sex...sure I wasn't ready for any sexual activity before 16 at least.
gah after all, does it matter how old the kid is? What counts most is consent or lack thereof.
-Because it's sex with an unconesnting individual you jackass. The fact of the matter is nobody wants to teach their children about sex, so they aren't informed. You don't like that? Well too bad, cuz the majority of people don't like you, and all it boils down to in the end is the will of the majority, so keep whining.
-Avergae loss of virginity is age 17. That means a good percentage lose it before and after that age. Teenagers are in general less emtionally mature than adults sure, but not every person below the age of your choosing is totally ignorant about their bodies, desires, and feelings, and not everyone above that age are perfectly aware of theirs.
Physical and emotional sexual maturity, if most of human society over the past couple thousand years is any indication- occurs between ages 14 and 18.
Again, I'm not saying that everyone should go out and start having sex as soon as they turn X years old, but that the age at which a person can engage in a healthy sexual relationships with no ill effects is generally younger than western judo-christian culture generally gives them credit for.
But very few (not even full grown women) appreciate the sexual advances of some random 30+ year old unattractive male stranger.
-True. Many child abuse victims don't understand what happened to them and think it is either natural to be hurt by adults or that they did something bad to deserve it.
Kids need to be taught what sex is, who is it for, how it works and how to recognize someone who is touching you where he/she is not allowed to. Children need to know that they can say 'no' if they don't want to be touched/have sex...and that anything that happen to them is not their fault.
-What I love about lolicon, guro, pedophilia, rape, is not whether it's arousing or not as much as the fact that it holds nothing sacred. I see it as a nice big FUCK YOU to all the fags who whine and bitch about anything they've been taught is wrong existing.
-It actually has little to do with judeo-christian culture, as judeo-christians used to get married at younger ages in the past as well. It has more to do with advancing society and the things you need to learn to be able to survive in the world and raise a family, which take many more years to cultivate; and before you're physically, emotionally and possibly financially capable for raising a family, sexual activity is not usually promoted. It is tolerated, but ideally since sex is a reproductive act it is encouraged to be held off until such a time.
-Oh, and also, fuck you for not being content to just live your own stupid life and having to retaliate at the people who believe they should hold morals, fuckwad hypocrite.
-so if somedbody comes over and cracks your skull open with a stone, since morals are "Lo2l"O!11 FOR FUCK LAMoRRzrZZR"!!!!" that's fine too?
Morals are the little thing that differs a human from an ape.
But fucking child molester scumm like you, who tries to act tough on the internet, probably is not willing to understand that.
-I'm all for freedom of speech but by definition "my freedom stops where yours starts". The rights to be a pedophile/rapist stop when they infringe on the right of a child/person to choose to have sex and live life unharmed.
I and many others here are fine with most deviancies: BDSM, coprophilia, age-difference etc as long as both (or more) parties are consenting.
A person who says no or a child who doesn't understand sex or want it is not a consenting partner.
As for animals, I really don't know.
Anyhow what counts is that many hentai guro and lolikon/shotacon depict rape as opposed to the fetishist stuff in which tops and bottoms come together in agreement to have sex in their own albeit strange ways.
It's not about natural/unnatural or religion: it's about consent and only about consent.
Making a non consensual act seem good or enjoyable to the victim is ...i hate to use the word... well wrong.