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I'm sure that I would have paid much more attention to your arguments had you presented them in proper English.
Anyway, my thoughts are pretty standard on this issue. Not surprisingly, being an enormous geek and never having the self-esteem or the percieved "innate ability" to develop friendships with girls throughout my school years (a function of both the way I was treated by peers, and the way I acted in general -- not all of what people did to bully me was unjustified, as I
was an annoying fucking prick), I pretty much went through the 19 years of my life completely oblivious to the actual behavioral patterns of females. Never having kissed, cuddled, held hands, dated, and of course never having sex, I developed elaborate notions and preconceptions about ideals and morals when dealing with relationships.
As a result, I get offended and downright angry when hearing of anyone between the ages of 12 and 20 even thinking of sexual encounters. This isn't really from a religious or moral perspective (even though I do consider myself more morally upright than these people due to my extreme chastity, and I am completely not religious in any way), but more because I'm pretty much extremely jealous of the fact that all a female has to do is step out of her house and she is chased after by males.
When reading a pamphlet I picked up on how to get a girl, it's got about ten to fifteen "tips" such as "Myth: being a nice guy won't get you anywhere" and "Bad Idea: letting her know how you feel too early on", with explanations and a paragraph for each one. All in all, it's pretty much telling me, the budding Casanova, that I should be going out of my way to try and give off an artificial vibe that most people aren't even born with.
Then looking at the section where it says "how to get a guy", I see that there is not a tip to be found. How will these poor girls
ever learn how to get a boyfriend? Well, instead of seeing pointers and tips on courtship rituals, I see a fucking BOOK REVIEW COPY-PASTED FROM AMAZON.COM. And the book review isn't even about how to get a boyfriend -- it's about how to adapt to changes in your already existing relationship.
So they're saying that basically all girls have to do is get out of bed in the morning and they're all set with finding a boyfriend? That they don't even have to expend any effort? And meanwhile us guys are sitting here never even having had the chance to see a girl honestly laugh and smile from being happy at just being around, while the guys that go out and exude auras of masculinity are running around wooing every attractive female he sets eyes on? What is wrong with this picture?
These are the kinds of things that I think about whenever I think about relationships. Of course I don't want to have a relationship based upon sex or physical attraction -- for one I don't consider myself to be that perfect of a human male specimen, and therefore don't really think it's worth it to dress a certain way or wear a certain cologne or spend my time in certain places just for the sake of attracting mates. Another thing to consider is the fact that I don't exactly enjoy going out and partying or getting drunk with random people or any of that bullshit, so these tips are useless to me because they are aimed at the stereotypical "college culture" demographic.
The idea of having a relationship ultimately grounded on physical attraction is pretty sickening to me. Ideally, I would meet and be friends with a girl my age, with similar interests and as much relationship experience as I have had (namely, none), and whose close friendship based on a genuine regard for and true liking of each other basically developed out of human nature into something more intimate, sharing our first experiences together.
In saying these things, yes, I realize that they are sophomoric and very naive. However, I recognize that I am also incredibly naive, and have the social ability of maybe a 12-year-old. I'm shy, don't like myself much at all, don't have any real sense of responsibility (I spend all my time on the internet and spending my paychecks on buying anime and shit rather than study for classes, do homework, or pay college bills -- I know that it's hurting people who are pulling their weight and more to get me through college, and here I am taking all that effort they're investing in me and throwing it in the toilet), and will probably end up alone and relatively friendless for the rest of my life, if I don't just get sick of breathing and kill myself. I don't enjoy being here much, there's nothing that I want to accomplish, nothing I'm working toward, I'm sitting here using up substance and not providing anything in return.
On top of that, I have the internal opinion that any girl who has had more than one sexual relationship in the space of two years before the age of 20 is a fucking dirty, disgusting, filthy whore -- regardless of the circumstances of these relationships. Girls who lose their virginity before reaching 20 or so are also seen as sluts, and anyone with piercings or tattoos or who listens to popular music or who uses chat abbreiations or who goes out to drink or party or involves themselves in any way with a fraternity or a sorority or anything like that... those people are morons and I feel disgusted even speaking with them.