Pedophilia: nature or nurture?

Have you ever known an ex-pedophile?

im a pedophile

I'm an ex-pedo.

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>>3
i know 3 now

Pedophiles are just people too weak to resist the urge to infect something so innocent.

This forum is for serious political debate (not current events).

If gay rights is a political debate, so is paedophilia.

I would say this is a stupid question since 99% percent of pedophiles don't talk about it in public.

That's why it's a perfect question for this forum!

Oh oh oh, but people are going to lie, because it's the Internet.
You mean "ex-gays" don't lie face-to-face? pssshhh you are naive.

pedo should be legal.

>>9
no, I just meant that if you ever met an ex-pedo, you wouldn't know, because they probably wouldn't say "Hey, did you know I used to be a pedophile?  Yup, I always thought kids were really sexy."  Also, if someone you knew was a pedophile, and then stopped being one, you probably wouldn't know that either, because they probably wouldn't have told you that they were one to begin with.

>>10
ohh i love kids ass... too

first you must define pedo.  In some societies on earth today a 13yr old girl is old enough to marry.  Some tribal societies (before the Mormons got to them) held that children should be iniated to sex by an older relative, others by the older children.
 
In the US they would all be classed as pedos.

Given the range of variation shown, I'd wager "Nurture".  The fact that a large percentage pedos were themselves victims also supports it.

>>13
if so, why are there so many pedophiles?  you wouldnt see a thing that might lead you to pedophilia, unless you SEEKED it.

>>14

Childeren are taboo as sex objects (for good fucking reason I might add). Misunderstood or inadequetly explained taboos lead curiosity.  The spiral can be stopped right here by proper explaination. Repression only amplifies curiosity which amplifies repression.  Somewhere in this vicious cycle curiosity will mutate into desire.  Around here  people will either commit suicide, seek professional help... or start looking for kiddy porn.  Thanks to the news, everyone knows theres kiddy porn on the internet.  If our budding pedophile makes it onto irc (dal.net in particular), they're set.  Thousands upon thousands of upload >=< download ratio fileservers offering free credits to start. Our pedophile will burn through these in a few days. They'll either start acting as couriers, transfering between file servers untill they get enough to set up their own server... or... or they'll start producing child porn.  As all criminals go... they only get smarter with time... I sought professional help once I realized what I was being silently asked to do.

failed romance leads to pedophilia, me thinks.

>>14
Are there really that many pedophiles?  It's talked about a lot on the news and sensationalized, but really, is it that common?

We should distinguish between the legal definitions, where the definitions vary from place to place, and the core idea of having sexual desires for prepubescent children, which I think is a very, very rare situation.

Pedophiles just made up their sexual preference, just like homosexuals. Theres no way a sane person can fap to kids (microgenitallia that is of little use to adults) or members of the same sex (genitallia that doesn't even fit your own). I don't think people are really gay or pedo, but they feel they are and act on it. By pedo, I mean attracted to kids 12 and under (or pre/early puberty). 15 and older girls look the same until mid 20's, so if you have sex with a 16 y/o a pedo you are not, pervert maybe.

also >>15 scares me.

>>18
Pedophiles just made up their sexual preference, just like homosexuals.
I would bet $200 you do not know anyone openly gay.

>>17
Studies indicate that 20% of American men have some paedophilic tendencies, and roughly 7% would honestly rape a child if there were no consequences (e.g. on a desert island). The figure is more like 2% in women, though.
Source: http://www.glgarden.org/desire/population.html

>>18
What the fuck is the difference between believing that you like something and actually liking it?  How could you tell?  You don't make any sense.

Not his job to make sense.  Talking from your ass provides alot of freedom.

Not his job to make sense.  Talking from your ass provides alot of freedom.

>>20
Can we define our terms?  When you say "pedophilic tendencies," do you mean these men are saying "yeah, I'd bone a 17 year old girl if I wouldn't get caught," or do you mean they're lusting for seven-year-olds?

I'm not disagreeing with you.  I'm trying to understand what you mean.  Define "tendencies."  Define "rape."  Define "child."  Help me understand your position.  Thanks.

>>24
I'll take a direct quote from the source.

H.E. Barbaree, W.L. Marshall: Erectile responses amongst heterosexual child molesters, father-daughter incest offenders and matched non-offenders. Five distinct age preference profiles. Annual meeting of the International Academy of Sex Research, Amsterdam, August 1986.

Cite (Sandfort): [A] study by Barbaree and Marshall [...] shows that the situation is even more complex. Adults who had had sexual contacts with children were differentiated on the basis of five distinct age preference profiles of penile response, as measured with a plethysmograph. J. Briere, M. Runtz: University males' sexual interest in children: predicting potential indices of "pedophilia" in a nonforensic sample. Child Abuse & Neglect 13:1 (1989), pp. 65-75.

A survey was administered to 193 male undergraduate students regarding their sexual interest in children, as well as their responses to a number of questions theoretically relevant to pedophilia. In total, 21% of subjects reported sexual attraction to some small children, 9% described sexual fantasies involving children, 5% admitted to having masturbated to such fantasies, and 7% indicated some likelihood of having sex with a child if they could avoid detection and punishment. These sexual interests were associated with negative early sexual experiences, masturbation to pornography, self-reported likelihood of raping a woman, frequent sex partners, sexual conflicts, and attitudes supportive of sexual dominance over women. The data did not, however, support clinical theories regarding sexual repression or impulse-control problems among potential pedophiles.

>>25

Thats a really long post there... It'd be even better if it actually said something.

>>20

Ofcourse some pedophile website would selectively choose studies to quote. If there were no homosexual culture, the number of homosexuals would be less, the same with pedos and the online pedo culture. The encourage other people to join them with bullshit like this.

>>18

I meant in the same way that people pretent to like sports, or a certain style of dress in order to fit in with some cliqueish group.

Fine maybe a few people are gay or pedo, but its a tiny fraction of the total who claim to be pedos or gay and even those people could be treated. It makes no sense from an evolutionary standpoint to have sex with the same sex or not-yet-fertile members of the opposite sex. Why would so many members of a species have a condition that dooms your species?

>>27

You're kind of dumb.

>>27
Could you really become sexual aroused & erect in a sexual situation with a man and reach orgasm just to try to be cool?  Or would it be impossible for you to find it arousing?  If you couldn't do it, what reason do you have to assume that anybody else would be able to?

Japanese soldiers fucked Korean lolis in WWII.  American soldiers fucked Vietnamese lolis in Vietnam War.  Russian soldiers fucked French, German, well let's just say all the lolis they found on the way to Germany.  I think that's interesting fact to think about.

>>31
I think this supports the "1 in 5" theory, actually

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>>31
Korean was a part of Japanese in WWII.

>>36
lol part of more liek occupied by

>>37
Korea and Taiwan weren't same as Manchuria which had been, indeed, occupied by Japan.

So Korean soldiers can be found with Japanese ones in a Chinese propaganda.
http://japanese.joins.com/transboard/upfile/up28088.jpg

I think everyone has the potential to be a pedo. Any fetishes can be cultivated. Getting turned on by breasts is such an example. It's just become so widespread that it's no longer considered out of the ordinary, but do you really think sexual attraction to breasts is instinctive? A lot of people who are full blown pedophiles started out with normal sexual interests, but then explored the field on a whim or out of curiousity, and accidentally let it get out of hand.

Sexual attraction to breasts is instinctive. Breasts are one indicator of fertility. Needless to say, as a species it's in our intrest for the males to be busy fucking healthy fertile females.

Don't go blabbing about something you so obviously don't get.