What do you think of Yasukuni Shrine?

What do you think of Yasukuni Shrine?

[Yasukuni Shrine - Japanese]
http://www.yasukuni.or.jp/
[About a cyber attack of the homepage - Japanese]
http://www.yasukuni.or.jp/new/osirase.htm
[About a cyber attack of the homepage - J2E(with cache)]
http//www.excite.co.jp.nyud.net/...

[Wikipedia - English]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasukuni_Shrine
[Wikipedia - Japanese]
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%9D%96%E5%9B%BD%E7%A5%9E%E7%A4%BE
[Wikipedia - Translates from Japanese to English(with cache)]
http//www.excite.co.jp.nyud.net/...

Second world press freedom ranking (October 2003)
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=8247

I think people who worship their murderous ancestors deserve to be hated by the descendants of their victims.

I think that if china never made a big deal about it, yasukuni shrine would of remained just another unknown shrine. Most of the japanese people I know never even heard of yasukuni before the controversies came up, it's not very popular or well known. What gets japanese people angry is that it sees a foreign nation trying to tell it what to do, and interfering in spiritual matters that in the long run have little to do with anything. Yasukuni shrine isn't a shrine for war criminals, it's a shrine for all war dead, no matter who. That it enshrines war criminals, goes without saying as in the shinto belief system everyone who dies can become gods in their own right and lose their sins. China probably knows it can play things to it's political advantage if it 'gets angry' on the issue, and try to gain an upper hand (in the end, everything boils down to politics) in other matters. It's the same with the ex-president of taiwan visiting japan. What effect does it have on anything? But China knows it can stir up controversy for political gain by making something of an ex-president with no power at all visiting japan on his own accord.

Who cares about the chinese or the japanese? If they misbehave, we just give them another a-bomb.

This is no different than saying any soldier fighting on the side of the Confederates doesn't deserve our respect. It's immoral and it's maladaptive. Forgetting the past and whitewashing it will only lead to repetition. Is that what we want? Seeing how things have gone lately, I'd say yeah, most probably.

So persecute the losers and heroize the winners, because that's what humanity is all about! And be more like >>5, it makes you look learned and experienced!

I am so happy to not be chink or jap. I am proud to be white and proud of my nine inch love machine (something an asian will never have).

>>7
I have 9 1/2 inches of filipino niggerdick

it doesn't matter what you think
the chinks have infiltrated all countries and will sway opinions just by sheer majority, their government pays people to spread internet propaganda
remember, chinese opinions = worthless

it doesn't matter what you think
the Yanks have infiltrated all countries and will sway opinions just by sheer majority, their government pays people to spread internet propaganda
remember, american opinions = worthless

>>10
fail

I actually wrote my senior thesis on how Yasukuni impacts international relations in East Asia today, as well as how Japanese war-era atrocities continue to influence rhetoric and relations.  My thesis basically centered around how there is a lack of clear lines drawn saying that the war-era leaders are still divine figures worthy of recognition and worship, which will always be viewed with animosity by the countries that were occupied by Japan. 

Of course, >>4 has a good point as well: the majority of Japanese don't give a crap about Yasukuni normally, but when China (and/or, to an equally significant extent, South Korea) starts to make noise about how to treat what is one of Japan's major points of its self-identity (A Shinto religious site) that REALLY hits on the vein of uniqueness as a nation.  This is a major cultural value to most Japanese. 

My personal opinion is that Japan needs to say "Look, these guys are not holy figures; they ordered a lot of mass murders, chemical weapons tests (Google "Unit 731" for more info), and took captured civilians for use as prostitutes (Google "Comfort women" for more info).  These were atrocities, plain and simple, and the leaders were tried and executed as war criminals.  That is historical fact. 

However, that was only IMHO.  It will take a serious change in the worldview of a voting majority of Japanese citizens for Yasukuni to ever change its significance and impact on Japan. 

I think The Jap ppl is
 CRAZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

ROFL

I think the Yasukuni Shrine has a very nice garden. It's got this pond with an island in the middle, and there's a cute little bridge and also some fish.

Conclusion: people need to leave the Yasukuni Shrine THE FUCK ALONE.

Japan was a despotism, these people were fooled into thinking committing acts of evil is good, as they gained little from spending weeks marching and labouring in the swelterring heat and getting shot at.

The shrine has value to me, not to honour their sacrifices, but to mourn their waste and to warn against the tyranny which allows such waste.

At the moment China is a despotism and I think someone high up in China is riled by this monument as they realise it represents the evil they commit. They are desperate to distort it's true meaning and of course thought within their subjugated populations.

>>15
Wow, that's actually quite insightful.
Hm, I think I agree.

>>16
^___^ im a philosophical genius, btu no one believes me

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