Why iraq's people kill soldiers

U.S. and U.K. release iraq's people from suppression.
But iraq's people kill soldiers of U.S. and U.K.
Why?
 
Please teach...

>opportunity, so whatever
Your post should have ended there.  Before you typed that last paragraph you basically said you understood why people hate america.  Then you ran off to say they're wrong for it.

There is fighting in iraq because no one wants to be the next America.  Hell, not even America wants to be America. (am I even spelling that right? It looks so alien now...) Democracy = McDonalds and sex shops on every corner as far as they're concerned. And shit, It looks like they're right.

>>81
whatever country youre from has succumbed to the same force

its called global capitalism, even chinas doing it.... it is no longer unique to america

choke on it, america does it best and strongest and therefore here is where i will stay... irrespective of your bitching. further i will be proud of capitalism's  originating nationstate, we won. communism lost. play our game or lose by default

>>82
typical clueless american prick

Hah. America is drowning in debt and the worth of it's currency is resting on the value of lead... you've sold everything to foreigners, you think you are rich because you spend, because your houses appreciate in price(not value!)... it's all fake wealth. You're depending on the kindness of strangers.

lol i love trolling angry euros >>81 >>83 >>84

americas debt is wholly manageable, it is a fractional percent of an 11 trillion dollar per year gdp.... 500 billion here, 500 billion there... it is nothing in context. 2 trillion is the largest estimate of cumulative debt... and still, it is nothing in the context of 11 trillion in inflows EVERY YEAR

china NEEDS america to legitimize itself. the bonds they buy from america out of 'kindness' are essential to their economy. america is integral to global trade, europe can not replace america. the dollar is low on purpose, it is a controlled strategic devaluation. the euro-zone can barely export anything anymore with its artificially overvalued euro... they want the dollar to get stronger relative to the euro but the fed is keeping it low artificially. the american consumer can do what it wants with houses and so forth, they are not a government structure

>>85 "america isn't floundering, its all part of a PLAN"

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>>85
america can handle the magnitude of the current issues with barely any deviation from the plan: leading the world to democracy through any means(including viral capitalism)

the cause of democracy is noble regardless. if a publicly elected government combined with a free press and a general culture of freedom existed in the rest of the world... there would be no terrorism, issues of critical dissent would be learned from and remedied internally

capitalism gets democracy through the door by exploiting the legitimacy offered via legal opportunity to the prevailing consolidated powers in <name your region>

if the packaged product of 'capitalist democracy w/ free press' is what it takes to sell democracy to the entire world. more power to it. it is a self critical system and the entire world would benefit from the freedom and modernization that it allows

>>87 "there would be no terrorism, issues of critical dissent would be learned from and remedied internally "

Yea, and things like racism would end as well. So would hunger and poverty.

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Sorry, people will always disagree with the majority. People will always disagree strongly enough to blow shit up.  They'll be braned as terrorists while they call themselves whatever they want.  Now, throw any insecure desperately self-perserving religion into the mix (read: any religion) and people will start thinking god's on their side.   These people will tell other people god's on their side.  Thus, more terrorism.

Terrorism is an abstract concept used to describe suprise geurilla warfare against military and non-military targets by a force of no set nationality.  It has no set cause or goal.  Its not something that can be ended. 

I was gonna post a pointless sage about the evil and all, but then again, post numero 2 and 33 said it all. eod.

Christianity started off with the golden rule and love thy neighbor.  Now it's all about gettin' the cash and telling everybody to look the other way while Father O'Malley diddles the choirboys.

Islam is supposed to be a "religion of peace", but instead after a long hard day of bombing the fuck out of people it's followes come home and stone their wives to death (AFTER cutting off their clitorii of course)

What the fuck happened?

>>1

It's plain and simple:

72% are glad we are there, support democracy, and don't fear terrorists. My dad is a soldier in the National Guard and he has been there. Not one civilian was not glad to see him.

The other 28% is composed of two groups:
1. Terrorists who love Saddam and hate America simply because we don't force everyone here to follow Islam. These are the people who attack us. What's sad is they also go after American civilians (And sometimes their fellow Iraqi civilians)
2. People who are glad America is there, but are still afraid of the terrorists.

>>15 the Administration knew the WMD threat was bogus.

WTF? That is total bullshit. Question for you: Why can't we trust our own intellegence agents but we can trust bias liberal propaganda?

We knew they had wmd, what we didnt know was they got rid of it somehow. If the wmd threat wasnt real, it was well invented since most everyone believed in it.
Not to mention alot of people in high places wanted saddam gone for many reasons. If you dont believe wmd then choose another one. oil for food, genocide, threatening his neighbors, nuclear aspirations, being a 1st class dick, pick whichever you want.
One wasnt real? whoops...

I dont think the UN can justify its lack of action because a US lead war didnt turn out 100% ideally. Few wars are started for as good a reason or come to a conclusion as smoothly.

>>93
So, when did he destroy it?

If he had destroyed it before intelligence came in, intelligence would have said there was no WMD. What about after? Sure... Iraq is going to be invaded, so he (somehow) destroyed a large pile of weapons that would have been useful.

Right.

As for a smooth conclusion - you must have your head in a gutter (or Fox). Guerilla warfare isn't 'smooth' or 'concluded'.

>>92
The word you're looking for is groupthink. Hello uneducated.

Question for you: Why can't we trust our own intellegence agents but we can trust bias liberal propaganda?

When the "liberal propaganda" was 100% right and the intelligence was 100% wrong, we've got a problem.

oil for food

Most overblown "scandal" ever. Saddam was getting 10 times more money by smuggling that got wink-wink-nod-nod approval from the US government.

genocide

Most halfassed "genocide" in history, then. Saddam ruled Iraq for twice as long as Hitler ruled Germany, but he barely put a dent in the Kurdish and Shiite populations.

threatening his neighbors

When, 1991? We dealt with that already.

nuclear aspirations

I know there's only one letter difference, but Iraq is not Iran. Iraq had NO nuclear program at any time after 1991.

>being a 1st class dick

Then you need to be invaded next, if that's agood reason.

I dont think the UN can justify its lack of action because a US lead war didnt turn out 100% ideally.

No, the UN can justify its lack of action because there was no valid reason for the US invasion beyond "Dubya wanted to".

Few wars are started for as good a reason

LMAO. There was no good reason for this war.

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>>97
>>98
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>>99

I am pretty sure they are from ex10.2ch.net lol

because people who were in power before the invasion want it back and are doing whatever they can, using whatever influence they can muster, to get it back. how hard is it to see that? "Iraqi people" just like "american people" can be as split about the occupation as  any body of diverse ethinicity/tribal history can get-- there is no unifided "iraqi people" unified people is an illusion in any country.

The onley reason they kill is becaous they are not humans. They are muslims they have left there humanatey for a lie witch will destroy it self.

>>103

Please raise America's average IQ by leaving the country forever.

>> 102
Actually, Baath is defunct. You need to read up a little on the cultural background of the Middle East.

It is really because :
it is every Fundamentalist Muslims' dream to remove arab borders and have a single unified Islamic state. These borders were only formed by the european powers in a caretaking capacity in the early 20th century.

The Religious and Powerful across the Middle East recruit and equip young idealistic men to fight and die in the name of an undivided, single, worshipping mass.

Of course many people of these countries (Iran, Iraq, Lebanon) are rather westernised and would rather be free than live under Sharia law. Who wouldn't?

But in a situation where the Mujhedeen are making life a load of shit, people will turn to the first thing that offers stability  - even if that means makeing a deal with the devil - in this case whatever local powerful religious figure that pops up and promises a stable life in exchange for votes.

Great innit?

The fighters in Iraq arent even from Iraq. They are from Iran and Saudi Arabia. They arent trying to give freedom to Iraq they are trying to kill the emerging Democracy there that opposes their Islamic nature.

OMAERA WAROSU wwwwwwwwueuewwwwwwww

to quote Immortal Technique, capatalism and democracy are not synonomous.

It has been discovered that many people in Iraq that are attacking US Armymen are not from Iraq but from Iran...

Holy fuck, talk about resurrecting a thread...

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>>108
A LIE WAS TOLD

29 Dec 2005 GET

>>76

Oh but Christians are bombing for God. If not outright at abortion clinics they do so psychologically in American culture.

>>37

Truth is 100% told and while I personally agree with spreading Modernism (A global modernism which will lead to America's eventual non-relevance in world affairs) I don't know if the ends justify the means.

I also think that America making itself synomious with Modernism/Capitalism/Etc might serve America's interest in that it de-stablizes other non-Christian cultures and makes them hate the idea of Modernism itself. So that's it's seen as something alien and apart of an invading culture.

I mean, sure, show these people democracy and modernism...but you can't force them operate "The American Way". And yes, it's percieved like this because we didn't go in there with the world backing us up. We went, basically solo. 

>>108
|capatalism and democracy are not compatible.

Fixed.

CAPATALISM IS EVAL

Capitalism is good, becuase it is the balance of yin and yang, socialism and communism.
Balance is good.

>>119 better be joking.