As far as I can tell, the Chinese are never assimilated by other cultures, but the other way around.
Consider:
The Mongols killed as many Chinese as possible, and took over their empire. About 50 years later, the conquerors are speaking Chinese, writing Chinese, and can barely ride a horse anymore.
The Manchu, a completely distinct people with unrelated languages, dress, religion come and conquered China again. Today, even the Chinese can't tell between Manchurians and Han Chinese.
Every civilization around China, even without direct contact has been heavily influenced.
Now, as more Chinese head overseas into foreign communities, forming tight, isolate packs amongst themselves, could it be possible that they will exert a large cultural influence over us? They are within us, spreading their beliefs and way of thought, I'd even bet a good part of 4chan is Chinese-American.
Will one day, the world around us, the Internet, the signs on the streets be half in Chinese? Will we adopt Chinese customs and ways? Or will we RESIST?
Discuss.
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Anonymous2007-07-26 0:12 ID:Wa7IcUbl
Duh?
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Anonymous2007-07-26 2:56 ID:fvwIm8pC
We'll all be VIP
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Anonymous2007-07-26 5:43 ID:Q8IYFkYA
lulz china is gayayay
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Anonymous2007-07-26 13:27 ID:w+brjPQ8
A man traveling across a field encountered a tiger. He fled, the tiger after him. Coming to a precipice, he caught hold of the root of a wild vine and swung himself down over the edge. The tiger sniffed at him from above. Trembling, the man looked down to where, far below, another tiger was waiting to eat him. Only the vine sustained him.
Two mice, one white and one black, little by little started to gnaw away the vine. The man saw a luscious strawberry near him. Grasping the vine with one hand, he plucked the strawberry with the other. How sweet it tasted!
>>6
true, what does that have to do with the koan in >>5?
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Anonymous2007-07-27 20:00 ID:6NHGsNzL
china fuck yeah?
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Anonymous2007-07-29 0:54 ID:HO9Uw9Xb
Chinese people are more worried about feeding and educating their kids than taking over the world, I was just living there for a year. Oh, and they make fun of their government in the privacy of their homes constantly.
It's amazing how Westerners are terrified about a Chinkworld, whereas converting everybody to "Jeebus and His Almighty Dollar" is perfectly OK with them. Hypocrisy, much?
At any rate, the West is collapsing into the mire of its own greed. Learn to speak Mandarin and you'll probably make out (with hot Chinkchiks, too). Keep speaking Amenglish instead and soon enough you won't be able to converse with any of the Spanish-speaking clerks in your city. The route of loss is YOURS to choose!
Well, #13, Japcunts are fairly hawt to me, so I can only imagine that Chinkslits would fare similarly. As for Americans ... well, after watching the latest pack of widebodies moo and stampede through the doors of another food establishment, I get to thinkin' that fappin' to /s/ really isn't that bad. Oriental women at least are slimmer on average.
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Anonymous2007-07-30 12:13 ID:cOQJ+1cM
I might start learning Mandarin in 2012(I'll be in Japan then). Teachers here suck ass(I think).
You've got it, #18. If anyone thinks I'm going to stick my dick in any of those burger-chomping land whales, you've got another think comin' to ya, mister! 4chan + fappage = sweet relief ... relief from the walking sacks of disgusting suet that we laughingly call "American women".
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Anonymous2007-07-30 22:24 ID:YgOsWgKe
They should change the name of this topic to "Fat girls or sideways vagina?"
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Anonymous2007-07-30 22:52 ID:rV8tdSNQ
Sideways vagina obv
On the other hand, fatties try harder, so its actually a tossup.
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Anonymous2007-07-31 5:34 ID:obOKpUD3
One thing to perhaps consider... the Chinese refer to China sometimes as the "middle kingdom", meaning like, "centre of the world" (sound familiar, you damn yanks?). They think China is really the only place that matters... you can go through the history and look at all the examples of China assimilating invaders, but can you find one example of China annexing foreign soil? They tried once with Japan I know, and the Divine Winds saw to that... but even why they sent out the Treasure Fleet, it was always to look for trade and to explore, never to conquer.
China's been really strong before, and centuries at a time before falling back to infighting muck... but ever once, have they tried to take over another country? Ever? Once?
Hahaha, oh wait yeah Tibet, okay, but they considered that Chinese soil, so... seizing land that was totally not Chinese soil at all? Ever?
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Anonymous2007-07-31 6:13 ID:z8yXGSp8
Since they have over a billion people in what is essentially a resource rich slave camp then, yes, if they really wanted to they could take over the world.
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CHINAMAN ALPHA2007-07-31 13:44 ID:B6eNgR4A
YEAH CHINA MIDDLE KINGDOM FOREVER!
THE SHINING LIGHT OF CIVILIZATION IN A DARK WORLD FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
NOW A BAJILLION OF US SLANTY EYED MOTHER FUCKERS ARE GREEDY AND AMBITIOUS AND READY TO TAKE YOU MOTHER FUCKERS DOWN A PEG.
>>22
Man you fail a lot
They called it "Middle Kingdom" because in ancient times they regarded it as their homeland and the "center" for THEIR point of view, just like the babylonians did
Mongolian conquerors were the ones that invaded Japan, not the Chinese Empire
And claiming/seizing land has been the way of Chinese expansion since the very beginning, Ancient China is not much different than Ancient Europe with many differing nations, its just the Han Chinese absorbed or displaced them all (The entire country of Laos consist of a dozen tribes displaced by Chinese throughout history)
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Anonymous2007-08-01 1:22 ID:WeSynZ7f
It's ironic that we mock the Chinese for regarding themselves as the Middle Kingdom. Because the word "Mediterranean" means exactly the same thing in its Greek origins.
Then again, nobody has failed harder in the last 150 years than China. France thinks the Chinese need to pull it together for a win.
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Anonymous2007-08-03 2:32 ID:dAm9VWdu
If they can keep their economy going like they have for the last decade, there is a chance of some domination. They're pushing heavily to become an economic superpower, but when the bottom falls out (and I certainly hope that happens soon) of their stock market, they'll be in too large a tailspin to do any conquering. Frankly, I worry more about India to some extent, I think the Chinese government is moderately insane, while the Indian one is more unorganized and poorly funded.
As for their resistance to cultural changes, there are plenty of perfectly rational reasons that would be ignored immediately. The best would likely be that the Chinese have both a long history of strong culture and haven't been overtaken by a single outside group for long enough to make a lasting impact.
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Anonymous2007-08-04 1:29 ID:QQXVo+f4
BUMP FOR GREAT JUSTICE!
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Anonymous2007-08-04 13:35 ID:ggs4V+XU
What about countries like Tibet then, who've been neighbours with China for ages without succumbing to this "influence"?
Easy cultural answer, #30: Tibetians are just more slants, and slants look after slants even when invading their nations. Since we in America aren't slants, the Chinky Chinks will pwn the FUCK out of us with all that military and economic power.
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Anonymous2007-08-06 6:45 ID:HXDfLA6k
I'm hungry. Anyone else want chinkies?
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Anonymous2007-08-06 21:06 ID:p3PBKLdy
>>30
Tibet wasn't influenced by China because they were too busy being influenced by India.
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Anonymous2007-08-10 6:43 ID:Sr4Eg54O
Cruel people are wringing bile from the bear that lives.
the bears spend the life in a cage narrow as moving cannot be taken.
Please know there is such a fact. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yzvKehOlcA
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MES2007-08-14 16:04 ID:YE6BdspE
chinese toys taste bad
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Anonymous2007-08-14 16:07 ID:+K/Tk7cA
No
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Anonymous2007-08-15 2:35 ID:CxLVwOuX
Ching Chong Ching Chong
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Anonymous2007-08-15 3:33 ID:+uqgdPLL
Cruel people force feeding chickens that live.
The chickens spend their life in cages narrow as moving cannot be taken.
Please know there is such a fact. http://www.kfc.com/
If the Chinky-Chinks are "barely Human", at 1.2 billion of them, they still outnumber any other demographic. It looks like "barely Human" is a part of Humanity that you'd better accept before they stomp you off the face of the Earth.
P.S. You might also consider stopping selling them your T-bills, and as well, perhaps you should stop buying their cheap plastic consumer shit.
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Anonymous2007-08-22 11:55 ID:V55vnmP4
>>1
Your answer in there is a very good chance they will...they are all ready expanding thier sphere of influence around the world. They are helping 3rd world countries and helping developing nations expand thier economies...china has the us and europe bogged down with thier cheap labor and consumer goods. China is developing a moral stand point on the world. They are building up thier military to rival the us' they are currently expanding thier navy for world wide opperations. And most un peace keeping soldigers are from china. so yeh id say they have a good chance at becoming the major world power.
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Anonymous2007-08-23 22:35 ID:I2Xb5CPl
China might have more people than everyone else, but they haven't won a war in 200 years. Small problem in the whole taking over the world thing.
They'll come out for a war in 2010 and Japan will slap the shit out of them. And then rape the country FTW. Just like 1905.
People who think big numbers = more power are just sending sheep to the slaughter. Good > More.
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Anonymous2007-08-23 22:36 ID:I2Xb5CPl
And Japan doesn't even have a real army. That's how hard China fails.
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Anonymous2007-08-23 23:39 ID:wsjjcpAy
>>44
Japan is totally pacifist now, and China has nukes
But the US will stomp those chinks back to the stone age.
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Anonymous2007-08-24 1:22 ID:qIPqlXJM
Well, sooner or later, we're all going to be beige.
Then marry your sister, or your cousin. In your family it's probably hard to tell the difference.
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Anonymous2007-09-01 1:12 ID:rKDtEdHo
Chinese = a lot of nations thinking that they are one nation. (there's the Hans, the Manchus, the Hakka, the Tibetians, the Mongols, and various other peoples from other parts of China)
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Anonymous2007-09-01 1:15 ID:rKDtEdHo
By the way, the country that came closest to taking over the world wasn't China, or Mongolia, or even Spain. It was good ole England, the England of Horatio Nelson and roast beef (and our language, too).
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Anonymous2007-09-01 3:02 ID:EnLlWNSo
>>57
I'm afraid that won't be necessary, chink. See in our country there are enough women to go around, unlike your sausage fest shithole. Too bad you can't go for other women either, no one wants your tiny dicks.
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ImmaInTehDark2007-09-01 3:23 ID:BNfoXcGC
RedCream has made many interesting points!
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Anonymous2007-09-01 8:45 ID:qKnA181d
If the China ovelrords make McDonalds carry Kung Pow Chicken, a dimsims, and those golden parcels. Yeah. They can do what they want. They'll also execute the MPAA and sell their families body organs onto the black market. Everyone is a winner.
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Anonymous2007-09-01 19:04 ID:qZKKTtAA
The real worry today isn't countries invading ours or others (we've al seen how well THAT has fared when attempted by our american masters), but whose got teh monies. Todays power doesn't grow out of a barrel, todays power grows out of a factory.
What country has the biggest economy names the rules, and because of that, we'll all soon be speaking chinese. Not because we'll have guns pointed at us (which we will, but anyway), but because we WANT to talk chinese. Well, that or china makes english its foreign relations language.
But the point is that the countries that have strong economies export their culture. Just look at 40-80 America with it's Hollywood and all, and todays Japan. The strength of these cultures is only because of the strenght of their economies. And so will be China, too.
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TheWorld2007-09-07 8:52 ID:Vjwxd9JD
>>63 I second that.
1) Money rules the world. When Japan's economy was about to become the #1 in the world during the late 80's-early 90's, US made a some financial and economical manouvers to stop their growth and keep it under control. If China wants to take over they'll have to face US' economic and financial control of the world. And that's something that a nation of 1 000 000 000 slave/farmers can't do.
2) Military Power Quality rules the world.
It is needless to say that mass destruction weapons changed today's warfare. When pushin a button means wiping away a city, having a million or a billion soldier doesn't make much difference. Having a specialized highly-trained and advanced equipped army means everything instead.
For a nation like China getting the upper hand means that they have to make some serious effort in military and scientific research to gain the upper hand, not just building a nuke with an old Russian "How to make the bomb" manual and crafting some useless rockets that may miss the target by a thousand miles.
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Anonymous2007-09-09 14:06 ID:t6JNqLPl
just give them all a stick and were all dead
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Anonymous2007-09-10 20:32 ID:IC7lnWTj
The Chinese invasion will fail when they give their own troops lead contaminated blankets, and all their military hardware breaks. The only thing dumber than chinese technology is the fat asses who betray their country by shopping at Walmart.
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Anonymous2007-09-10 20:49 ID:chXD/A5N
>>66
Untrue, the stuff from Walmart is made in China
That's why the West needs to take steps to weaken the chink politburo. if we can get their slanty-eyed citizens to remove those assholes in charge, the govt will collapse and begin reform, and it'll take time to recover, like with russia.
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Anonymous2007-09-18 20:50 ID:fBmDeA1v
>>70
(continuance)
Or we could go the Bush way and just blow up shit. Means I could get some enjoyment from my job for once.
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INSANITYBEATDOWN2007-09-22 1:27 ID:aqB+0ch0
I say down with the Three Gorges Dam! You heard it! Let us knock over there Great Wall and laugh as Mongols invade and many of cities are flooded, MWAA HAAA HAAAA HA!!!
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Anonymous2007-09-25 11:50 ID:CY+3LgPC
>>72
sadly, the mongols aren't what they used to be
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stormland2010-05-05 1:02
as far as I know, China has no sign of expansion.
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a student from China2010-05-05 4:42
China is no longer what it used to be 100 years ago, your views toward Chinese and your information about China need updating. Here are some materials for your reference.
(Ⅰ)China’s earth-shaking changes
During the some 30 years since the Chinese reform and opening-up, China has undergone earth-shaking changes. Shavian once said: one who will be deeply touched by statistics, is the people who has accepted the real education. So, the best way to show china’s earth-shaking changes is, statistics, of course. And here are ten groups of statistics to exhibit the changes.
1, 30 years ago, China’s GDP took in 1.8%of the world; now, China makes up 6% of the world’s total.
2, Chinese government receipts rise from 11.32 billion RMB to some 510 billion RMB.
3, the income of urban and rural resident now is 6 times as much as 30 years ago was.
4, China’s external trade ranked 29th of the world, now China rise to 3rd of all.
5, China’s foreign exchange reserves was just 0.167 billion U.S dollars, now the number of which has turned to over 2000 billion U.S dollars.
6, China’s state-owned enterprises were elevated and decidedly superior to others, however, during the 30 years, Non-Public Sectors Of the Economy in China developed quickly and become an important economy-growing engine.
7, the rate of urbanization of China was 17.9%, through the 30 years’ developing, it changes to 44.9%.
8, the goods and services of China has skiped from shortage to balance as a whole.
9, the deficiency of China’s infrastructural facilities had always been a bottleneck of social development. In the last 30 years, the energy output become 2.8 times as once was, railway mileage 1.5 times, road mileage 4 times.
10, the level of education universalization of China has reached middle income countries’ standard.
From above, we can know that China did really well in the past 30 years. Not that China’s high speed development show China’s ambition to become top of the world, but that show China’s responsibility to provide happiness to one fifth of the world’s population.
(Ⅱ)What we have in common: disasters and rescues
America: Hurrican Katrina
The rescue campaigns:
the rescuers are sending the injured refugees out of the flooded area
The spokes person of the America State Department said, America was willing to accept any help because of Katrina. Many countries and organizations declared their willingness to help, including Canada, Japan, NATO, Russia, China and so on.
The President had sent his father, formal President Bush, and formal President Clinton to lead the programs to solicit for funds from the people.
Refugees arrangement:
There were continuous explosions, rages, robberies and other incidents in New Orleans. The whole city was in a state of ordeal for nearly a month. Many police officers returned from Iraq and tried their best to maintain the cities’ orders. People just carries what they can snatched to their homes.
The reconstructions:
The Bush administration stated several measures to reconstruct New Orleans. First, the Federal Government would afford most of the money needed. Second, Bush had ordered all his Cabinet members to evaluate the government’s performance in this disaster. Third, Bush suggested to establish special accounts for the unemployed people and them 5000 dollars per person to support their training, education, and so on. Forth, 1.9 billion dollars would be given for the students’ education fees in the flooded areas.
Comments:
The US government had been accused of their slow and inefficient performance in this disaster.
Warm details:
There was a special combination of seven kids in the disaster, a six year old boy carrying 5 month old baby, followed by 5 other younger kids. The boy seemed to be the leader and they lived together through the catastrophe.
(Ⅲ)Those we do better than the others
On April 14th, a SR 7.1 magnitude earthquake hit YUshu Sichuan, China with several aftershocks following in minutes. We Chinese have paid great effort to rescue those refuges; however, a lot of foreign media misunderstood our behaviors and announced some conclusions without the sense of responsibility and careful research. And That is why I write this article to describe the fact with statistics and make a comparison between China and other countries.
The effort of government:
In the action to help after Yushu Earthquake, our government is playing an important role in both material support and spiritual encouragement. Statistics shows that the government on the level of province have donated 169500000 yuan to disaster area until April 16th , that means in two days after the hit. The national media—CCTV held a special program to raise money in April 20th and successfully collected 2.175 billion yuan.
Moreover, the prime minister Wen Jiabao flew to Yushu the day after the earthquake, and the President Hu Jingtao went there in 16th to direct the rescuing work as well as encouraging the public.
Compared with us the American government paid less attention on the attack of Hurricane Katrina. First of all this hurricane was reported 48 hours ago, however, the state reacted 5 hours later to order the rescuers to reach there in 2 days instead of 2 hours as we did in Yushu earthquake. At that time, President Bush was enjoying his holiday, and he continued his holiday until Wednesday, and he only looked down the disaster area form his helicopter instead of trying to be there by himself as Wen Jiabao and Hu Jingtao.
The effort of the public:
On April 21th, we decided to fling the national flag at half-mast all around the country and we observe a moment of silence in tribute to express our sadness on the death and those in hurt.
Moreover, there is a large sum of money rising from all around the country through all means to help those in need, but I can't calculate it out how much money totally raised. the statistics I get shows that only the China Charity Federation had received 500million yuan until 22th.