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it's 1984 in the united kkkingdom

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-02 15:14

To the 12-year-old friends planning to build themselves a den, the cherry tree seemed an inviting source of material.

But the afternoon adventure turned into a frightening ordeal for Sam Cannon, Amy Higgins and Katy Smith after they climbed into the 20ft tree - then found themselves hauled into a police station and locked in cells for up to two hours.

Their shoes were removed and mugshots, DNA samples and mouth swabs were taken.

Officers told the children they had been seen damaging the tree which is in a wooded area of public land near their homes.

Questioned by police, the scared friends admitted they had broken some loose branches because they had wanted to build a tree house, but said they did not realise what they had done was wrong.

Officers considered charging the children with criminal damage but eventually decided a reprimand - the equivalent of a caution for juveniles - was sufficient.

Although the reprimand does not amount to court action and the children do not have a

criminal record, their details will be kept on file for up to five years.

The parents of the children, who all live in Halesowen, West Midlands, say they are angry with police for treating their children as hardened criminals and accused officers of over-reacting.

The three, who have never been in trouble with the police before, were described as well-behaved and placid by their parents.

Amy's mother, Jacqueline, said

her daughter was left so traumatised by the police action last month she refused to sleep in her bed for a week.

Miss Higgins, 37, an office manager, added: 'Amy was scared bucketloads to be locked up in a cell knowing murderers and rapists have been sat in the same cells. The police action was completely unbalanced. These were children playing in a tree.

'The information taken by the police will be held on record for five years and Amy is worried it could affect her going to college or university.'

Sam's father, Nicholas, 52, said: 'The children did not deserve to be treated in the way they were. A simple ticking-off by officers would have been sufficient.

'The children didn't realise they were doing anything wrong, they didn't deliberately set out to damage the tree.

'Sam's eyes were swollen and red when they let him out of the cell as he had been crying. He is a placid child and has never been in trouble before.

'When I got the phone call from the police to say Sam was in custody I thought he'd done something-like steal something from a shop. I couldn't believe it when he said all he had done was break some loose branches off a tree.

'To detain them, DNA them and treat them that way was simply cruel and an over-reaction by the police. Generations of children have played in that tree and my son and his friends won't be the first to have thought of building a tree den.'

Mr Cannon, who said Sam had difficulty sleeping shortly after the incident, has written to the police to complain about the action taken.

Superintendent Stuart Johnson, operations manager at Halesowen police station, said: 'I support the actions of my officers who responded to complaints from the public about "kids destroying" an ornamental cherry tree by stripping every branch from it, in an area where there have been reports of anti-social behaviour.

'A boy and two girls were arrested and received a police reprimand for their behaviour.

'West Midlands Police deals robustly with anti-social behaviour. By targeting what may seem relatively low-level crime we aim to prevent it developing into more serious matters.'

Rod Morgan, chairman of the Youth Justice Board for England and Wales, said the police action appeared to be unnecessary.

'It's my opinion that too many children are being criminalised for behaviour that could be dealt with informally by ticking them off and speaking to their parents.'

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-02 21:30

Big-Brother is watching you. Always watching. You are caught on camera in a urban area of the UK at least 300 times every 24 hours and double that in London.

You will love the party, you will adhere to the party line. Next it'll be the fucking thought-police. "You're views are not the right views." etc.

Crazy shit.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-03 1:11

So? This is nothing new. It's your damn own fault for letting your country turn into police state. Do something about it while you still can, whining about it on 4chan won't help.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-03 19:33

All Brits are oppressive bureaucrats.  It's in their nature.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-04 2:14

I live there a few years back and this does suprise me alot.

You have to remember, that most people there, the police included, are really laid back.

Unlike the uptight, christian, moralistic police that attempt to control every part of your life, and actually, are removing individual liberties on a yearly basis.

One thing that has always shocked me about england also.

While i was there for 2 years, there was only one, yes 1, reported rape.

Here they seem to happen on a daily basis.

Also, due to their un -uptightness, dealing with sexual actions, if you do it, you take responsibililty. 

OH by the way, the rape was from a doctor on an 8 year old girl, in the 80's.

I also knew of 2, late 20's men that had 15 year old girlfriends.

What did their family members say about that?

They get out of school at 15+ there, as here 18. It was thier choice and there lives to live.

The guys I mentioned, who didn't hide the fact, brought their girlfriends around, etc...

Where are they now?

Who knows, they never got busted for it because there wasn't any reason for it.

Name: Jose 2006-08-04 2:21

It isn't just England that is in now a police state, or could you say being monitored by the thought police, aka, European Union.

Americans, G.W. Becinte Bush, is doing the same thing here.

As we all know, he is actually pushing for the NAU, North American Union,which is a social state consisting of Canada, Mexico and the United States.

Similar to the EU, the NAU will have the same currency, the same pay across all 3 former countries, now 1, the NAU, no borders, one government agency for the Canadians, Mexicans, Americans ( also getting ready to be know as the "The Americans".

If you don't believe me, go to the government website itself, posted by those that are in the process of this NAU, (to keep people informed) and check it out yourself.

spp.gov

Also search for the superhighway that is starting to be built, straight from Laredo, Tx to Canada, with Mexicos main transportation building and workers, located in Oklahoma.

??????

From an Independent, ex republican, who voted for Bush twice,

I am sorry that we don't have America anymore.

God Bless what is left of America

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-04 11:18

>>5
I assume "few years back" was before police state shit started. You know it was pretty laid back there in 80s and even more in 60-70s.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-04 16:13

A similar incident: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=398465&in_page_id=1770

The police gave the exact same line in this too:
"By targeting what may seem relatively low level crime, we aim to prevent it developing into more serious matters.
We will continue to respond positively to community complaints and concerns to combat fear of crime."
It really does seem like something straight out of 1984.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-04 16:15

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-05 3:47

>>8
It is straight 1984. UK has zero tolerance policy on crime and has been actively trying to pull it's agendas on EU level. This started somewhere in 80s, but worst things started in 90s.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-05 6:18

brits are wise, they've been fighting id cards for years..

wait.. they voted in tony blair and the labour party which rupert murdoch funds. guess i'm wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-05 7:37

>>11
Yet somehow they have got WORSE stuff going on than any ID card.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-05 16:46

The chavs deserved it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-05 19:54

>>11

What the fuck is so scary about ID cards?  Honestly.  We've already basically got them in the US, since everyone gets Driver's Licenses.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-05 20:58

>>14
Giving your info to goverment is always scary and not good thing.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-06 9:14

i'm in ur pc stealing ur infos

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-06 12:27

>>16
I'm in ur goverment, stealing ur privacy.

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-06 14:30

>>14
another reason is that it makes identity theft many times easier (just look at how we're using social security numbers these days)

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-07 2:05

WHO'S BEEN DOWNLOADING NUDE PRE-TEEN ART AGAIN?

Name: Anonymous 2006-08-16 2:44

hmm im glad i live in america. lol my neighbors hop over to the city park and chop down trees to feed their wood burning stoves. The cops around here have something better to do like eat donuts or force sex from captured hookers. funny since the chopping down of the trees here actually is a problem, the trees are a vital part of the wat3rshed and the absence of them will cause mass flooding and death and destruction. But the cops dont care about that. They all subsribe to the universal law of eating donuts and being assholes.

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