Google takes it up the ass for China

Fuck China and FUCK Google...

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=430

Google is already fucked.

>>2
Yeah, LOL @ attempt of video store...

damn commies

does anyone know if you can get on 4chan in china

>>5
Yes, I tried a chinese Proxy

>>5
Yes, but you can't find it from now.

china sucks.

In Soviet China internet owns you.

What a child. Google is not a political party, they are not an ideal. They're a corporation, and one of the best the world has ever had. They protect the rights of citizens designated by the extent of that country's laws. In the US, Google is fighting for our given privacy rights. In China, Google is cooperating with the government and the will of the people at large to censor information that places the world and the state in danger. Corporations do not have "morals," their customers do. If Google wants to provide China with an ungodly amount of free information from the world that is not anti-Chinese propaganda, they will subscribe to the morals of their customer: the Chinese government.

On a secondary note, consider the choices. Google does not do business with China and China loses access to the best search engine in existence. Google does do business with China, and China has access to the best search engine in existence. How is fighting it a better choice? Google cannot win. They are not a human being, they cannot fight a government, they can only fight for their customer. If their customer does not exist, neither does Google's ability to fight. This is the right choice.

>>10
It's sad but you are right.

China will soon over take the US economically.  Google sucking up is making good business move.

Apparently if you mistype the forbidden word you are looking for, Google will correct it, but still give you the banned pages. Who can spell Tieneman Square anyways?

>>13
Who told you that?
It's little different. You can type whatever you want, but when you search for example "something" it will return same results as "something -democracy -tibet -freedom". Simplified.

>>14
What happens when you search for 'tibet' then?

>>15
It is very simplified. They can't just exclude every page with "tibet" on it because it would filter for example all geografical pages about china as a secondary effect. You can't just exclude "free" because it would filter free porno.

But this is the way it works. They tried to implemet some list of banned sites but it could be outdated next day. Most probably it is some combination of both.

Anyone knows something more?

I read on Slashdot that it provided the results but didn't allow you to visit them, which allowed for a way to challenge the filter I suppose.

Slashdot does get a lot wrong, but.. Is the filter even engaged yet?

>>17
That would be the same as when google doesn't censor. There already is a 'great firewall' that blocks specific sites and sites with specific words in it.

>>18
Not necessarily. The purpose of a censor is to limit information, not to limit the knowledge that the information exists. (everyone knows democracy exists, where to find it, and where it exists: everyone does not know how democracy comes to exist and where people who know this information are.)

I don't see why that system wouldn't work better than a pure censor of all references to democracy. The nation of China understands why there is censorship, in the same way the US does. No one wants to hear the bullshit, they agree with the censor unless they are being censored, in which case they should be in jail.

I like to think of it similar to the anti-terrorist movement in the US. Democracy advocates are in all forms terrorists, there's just more of them and they're Chinese.

To directly answer your complaint: they can't block all the sites, so instead of blocking Google which will provide the rest of them, they ask Google not to provide the sites. Provided, but not accessible. Google acts as a software firewall, the Great Firewall a hardware. It's the second-catch filter, but it has a visible GUI unlike the hardware one.

I don't know, the system I explained works fine in my eyes and it appears less evil to the average citizen when they know what is being censored. I wish there was a concrete source of information. Information inside China is probably propaganda and outside of China propaganda as well. Any perspective you look to isn't neutral.

>>19
Maybe you are underestimating the amount of information that can be packed in a title. Anyway, Google is a very good way to explore the web and there are (probably) many people in China who can bypass the firewall who would still be going to google.cn. If they know that a particular site doesn't exist, they would not want to bypass the firewall and go there.

>>19
| Everyone knows democracy exists, where to find it, and where it exists.

If you lived in eastern europe 20 years ago, you couldn't write that. Everyone knows just what he was told.