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Ukraine President fires government

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-08 14:20

When has a leader in history had the balls to fire his entire government?  This is frikkin awesome, and I wish more people had the courage to say "you're all a bunch of greedy corrupt muthafuckas, get the fuck out."

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-08 19:18

i need to shake hands with this man.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-09 15:37

more liek you're a greedy corrupt muthafucka and you're pissed off because they're not obeying you

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-09 18:32

lol ukraine

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-09 22:08

Why can't the people fire their government? Yes, some countries have elections. But in this ultracapitalistic times, how can an employee have a save job, no matter how stupid he is, for several years? Especially if it pays so well. With great power comes great responsibility (stop laughing). So when a petition for new elections gets a treshold of signs, people should have the right to vote on that. Getting a simple majority might make things too easy to change the Prez, so require more votes against him than voted for him before.

This is what people in Venezuela have. (It was used against teh evul populist Chavez and failed to even get a simple majority. Btw. Chavez was the one who introduced that voting feature, but don't let that distract you from the fact that he's evul and hates democracy.)

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-10 1:46

>>5
Because there's no evidence whatsoever of any vote fraud or manipulation in Venezuela.

Anyway, a recall might not be a bad idea, actually. We in California have the ability to call a recall election, as you might know. As long as it's reasonably safe from abuse, I don't see why not.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-10 1:48

Viktor Yushchenko has balls the size of fucking tires.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-10 2:01

VIktor Yushchenko is a pair of balls the size of fucking tires. Nothing else.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-10 10:10

>>7
Signed. We need more leaders, even kings and queens like that.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-10 20:50

I heard some Russian countries have a "none of the above" ballot, and when the majority is "none of the above," the election process starts over again.  Would have worked wonders for Gore vs Bush.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-11 3:16

>>6
According to international surveyors that actually where in Venezuela, like former US President Jimmy Carter, the Venezuelan vote was less likely to be fraudulent than the 2004 election in the US.

What came up in the media in typical attention-deficit disorder style was that some of the signs before that vote were from dead people. Oh, that strange regime there having strange things happening around their elections. But how would that fake have worked in favour of Chavez? Or did he fake the fake to make the other fuckers look like fucking fakers?

On the Ukraine: In 2004, many were able to vote several times in several places. Some people could also get a prefilled ballot before going into the voting building, and when they got out with the unmarked ballot they got inside, they received some money in return. A really tiny amount of money, so they probably did on principle. And that orange revolution fucker is just as criminal as that other guy, but he is also more antisocial and that is the same as more capitalistic, so he is one of the good guys.       

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-11 16:54

>>11
Venezuela is a shitty dictatorship. If you like Chavez so much, why don't you move there? Then you'll see how you have to bribe the government for EVERYTHING. I know this because I know someone who has a business there, and it's shitty.

From your opinion of Yushchenko, I can tell you are a fucking commie. Perhaps you would like to live in Cuba, it's so free and democratic. Wait, no Internet there, too bad.

Let's see what have you said of Yushchenko:
- Criminal: I don't know, last time I checked, it was he the victim of a murder attempt. Or perhaps it's that "capitalist" = "criminal" (while "Mao murders more people than Hitler" = "power to the good people") under your stalinist eyes.
- Antisocial: Not rly, otherwise he wouldn't have won; but hey, since when is being antisocial bad? Tell me who's most antisocial and I'll vote for him/her. Antisocial = not stupid.
- Capitalistic: Yes, Yuschchenko happens to like economic progress, increase of GDP per capita and quality of life, people having their work measured and paid accordingly, and lazy fucks being penalized, just the opposite from Venezuela and your beloved leftard countries.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-11 19:10 (sage)

>>12
On Venezuela:
"If you like Chavez so much yadda yadda"
Sucks less than the opposition. Simple as that.
"I know someone who has a business there, and it's shitty."
And that's only coz of the evil govanmant!!1 and never because of that someone's incompetence. It's true because you asked an objective observer, that very same person.

Your mentioning of internet access reminded me of something: People online don't represent average opinion, because the poorest people are excluded. So social democrats and socialists receive a stronger negative response here than in the real world.

On Ukraine: Yushchenko is a criminal because he and his party was involved in the manipulation of the election, just like that other dude.

"Yes, Yuschchenko happens to like economic progress, increase of GDP per capita and quality of life"
When measuring quality of live I rather use stuff like infant mortality rate, lifespan and literacy.
And in that regard, the USA has pretty much the same level as the thirld world country Cuba. The first world socialist country sweden fares better than them.
You can look this up at the CIA world fact book page:
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/docs/flagsoftheworld.html
I bet that means the CIA are commies for ya.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-12 17:34

>>13
And that's only coz of the evil govanmant!!1 and never because of that someone's incompetence.
Then again, you're the kind to blame any right wing government for anything.

So social democrats and socialists receive a stronger negative response here than in the real world.
Fortunately. That's why I like it here. It sucks less.

Yushchenko is a criminal because he and his party was involved in the manipulation of the election, just like that other dude.
Fix: Yushchenko was involved in not getting killed or cheated.
Of course, I can understand you will think since democracy can be cheated it'll be better to have Chairman Rofl Mao handle this.

When measuring quality of live I rather use stuff like infant mortality rate, lifespan and literacy.
Yes, and you improve this with a working economy, so you can have quality education and health services (either public or private, I personally prefer public), and more free time and spare money to buy culture and to learn.

And in that regard, the USA has pretty much the same level as the thirld world country Cuba.
Who said the USA is my ideal of country? European countries like Austria, Spain, or Ireland, for example, have a notably better quality of life.

I bet that means the CIA are commies for ya.
Not rly.

P.S.: I'm not American.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-12 22:21

Why can't Yushchenko poison himself? He didn't die or anything, if his opponents really wanted to poison him, wouldn't you think they would do a better job of it? And dioxin poisoning is a very obvious method, you'd think they would prefer a more subtle method of assassination.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-12 22:22

http://www.counterpunch.org/nagle12202004.html , though this is a leftard site.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-12 22:27

To suggest that Yushchenko has poisoned himself does not mean we are leftards, it can also mean we are extremely cynical faggots who believe that Yushchenko is just as bad as Yanukovych, or at least within the range range.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-12 22:28

Awaiting counterargument to "Yushchenko poisoned himself", just like Chen Shui Bian faked his assassination attempt.

Name: Anonymous 2005-09-13 5:39

To be honest, Yushchenko poisoning himself has a higher possibility than CSB staging his assassination. CSB's assassination could have been unplanned, it could have been committed by an amateur, or staged by a symphatizer. Though, for a symphatizer, he would have to have significant marksmanship to make such a surgical strike.

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