Question- is it possible, at this time, for an American to go on a tourist's expedition of the DPRK? If not, is it still possible for Europeans to? I've been reading articles by folks who went and it's craaazy. I can't believe how eerie Pyongyang is from the pics.
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Anonymous2005-05-14 5:30
Well, from Amerika at the moment--no. If you're Amerikan, just possible but if you don't have a very big name--gitmo. Or worse.
Amerika still allows subject states (the rest of the world) to come and go but that will change soon.
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Anonymous2005-05-15 22:49
what with everyone calling america amerika lolol
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Anonymous2005-05-16 13:58
it cuz you
touch
your mom
at night
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Anonymous2005-05-16 21:25
o rly
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Anonymous2005-05-16 22:02
lol foreigners
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Anonymous2005-05-31 5:40
>>1
Why would you want to visit North Korea? Are you looking for bizarre exterme sports, or just fascinated with death?
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GearheadX2005-05-31 10:20
Generally I try to avoid despotic police states as vacation spots. It can extend and enrich my life to avoid getting smacked around by some git with the butt of a rifle because he doesn't like the look of my face.
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York!TnfC957mQY2005-05-31 12:16
of course you realize that any tourist being held would create an international incident.
Now, I know the North Koreans are not averse to international incidents 'n shit, but holding a simple tourist doesn't strike me as specifically the type of thing they'd do. I just have a morbid fascination with a society where the streets are THAT clean, the buildings are THAT severe, the troops are THAT good, and the starving chilluns are THAT dead.
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Anonymous2005-06-02 12:46
I saw just saw Die Another Day so it looked like a cool place to go
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Anonymous2005-06-02 18:31
>>10
"LOL! Hey Kylie, look at all the starving asians! Here kid, have a dollar. You're rich now, KEWL!"
That something has not been done is not a proof that it cannot be done. You fail, and very hard at that. I'm not a Marxist, it's just that your statement sucks so bad from a formal point of view.
It would be improved by making an actual argument of some kind a priori, or a posteriori, as to why we can conclude that it cannot be done. You might otherwise take the view that it OUGHT NOT be done. The former variety is indeed distinct from what you offered, and not redundant.
You additionally fail for using the adolescent, undefined generality 'start doing something productive'.
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Anonymous2005-06-06 22:40
The buildings all look so oddly alike. (just something about the windows freak me out)
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Anonymous2005-06-07 5:41
>>15
Something productive = ZOMG NOT ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON COMMIE WORKER BEES VS PEOPLE WHO THINK AS INDIVIDUALS, too tired for that. And BTW, I meant everyone tried to do the "ideal" stuff, and ended up killing its people of hunger in pretty much the same way. Marxism, communism, and anything similar blows, get over it.
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Anonymous2005-06-09 21:19
On a side note, I've always wanted to visit NK myself. From what I've read, the best way to go is to contact one of the tour companies in Beijing that specialsies in orgranising NK tour trips and go with a large group of people.
I guess I'm interested for the reasons as the original poster, out of pure fascination. I don't particularily think it's dangerous as long as you do wahtever your assigned NK tour guide tells you but then again, Kim just announced he has nuclear missiles and isn't afraid to use it defend itself from the US so all bets are off.
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Anonymous2005-06-12 0:31
Has anyone ever visited Iran? It has been a lifelong dream of mine, but I've heard a number of bad Iranian airport stories from Westerners.
Wasn't one of the Americans killed in that big Iranian earthquake a few years a go a Jew? The was no way she got in there as a regular tourist.
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Anonymous2005-06-12 16:41
LOL, visiting north korea, iran, etc. is like watching a horror movie, only you may get killed for real.
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Yes but that's because of the muslims who nuke the fuck out of everything and everyone, all the time.
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Anonymous2005-06-12 23:48
That's a great site. The streets and public places look so empty in those photos.
Ohh and I found this interesting:
"The tunnel depth in the metro, relative to the one in St. Pete, is rather moderate.
Two things can be seen in this shot:
1. A complete absence of advertising. (So many years were spent getting used to the contrary that at first this felt very unusual :) "
I'm so used to being surrounded by advertisement, the notion of no advertisement sounds very exotic.
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Anonymous2005-06-13 6:18
He's really biased and loves communism. He went as far as saying using people to do silly work just for the heck of it, and displaying government propaganda is good and fuzzy.
Despite this, I have to say I'm impressed with Pyongyang. That's almost like the "communist" China of today. The rest of North Korea looks indeed communist, though; needs less communism.
At the bottom of the page, they have a few pictures of a bunch of students trying to set the US flag on fire in the US embassy in Seoul. Damn, it would've been interesting to see them succeed.
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York!TnfC957mQY2005-06-14 20:43
Let's pull out of Seoul and tell Mr. Il that we want nothing more than to see Korea become one again! ^_^
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Anonymous2005-06-15 5:19
Ooooooops. I've NEVER seen those drawings even I'm Korean.
Those pics really make me sad & shameful. Maybe there's problem with teachers of children drawed those. Maybe those teachers don't know what Koreans want. Most Koreans just don't like ppl made distortional history & some politicians in Japan. I mean "Koreans don't like Japanese" is wrong. Maybe you guys know.
Children have to behave like children...
Where can I see those drawing? Somebody know?
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Anonymous2005-06-15 10:25
>>33
I suspected it was not generalized, and thanks to your post I see it was just an exception.
Children have to behave like children...
You are very right. No child would draw that unless he/she were told to by somebody else. But I'm glad to see such incidents are rare.
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Anonymous2005-06-23 20:50
I'm not Japanese, and I dislike Koreans. Historically, whenever the US tried to put some pressure on the North Koreans, it was the South that held them back. That's why the North has weapons, the South has always prevented the US from taking any kind of action against the North.
If the North weren't communists, the South would give in to every desire of the North. South Korea doesn't want to give away all the money its made under American protection (from personal experience I can say that South Korean immigrants in America are notoriously greedy, visit any Korean grocery to see for yourself), that's the only thing that's holding them back.
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Anonymous2005-06-28 20:17
It is possible to go there as tourist, but only via trips organized by government.
more info here: http://www.korea-dpr.com/kfa2005/ . You don't need a name to get there, just to book it fast ;p
generally speaking, it made me think of potemkin villages, but it's still a good oportunity to get there.
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Anonymous2005-06-28 20:19 (sage)
I forgot to note, US and South korea residents can't apply. Other people can do it apparently without problem)