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Can someone explain to me why debt must exist

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-08 6:40

looking at our current economic situation, you see everyone tossing about the term "debt," this ominous reference to a financial burden incurred over time.

isn't "debt" an abstraction?

is it not just this non-existent contract to which society -- going back centuries -- has bound its mobility?

why must humanity submit to this enslavement?

who says that "debt" is inevitable?

why can't we make a transition to a world where the incentive to work and produce is more humane in its offerings?

all around the globe, you see people suffering because there's "no money" to subsidize programs that would benefit them.

why must there be this obligation to pay one to aid another?

when did it become acceptable that a state can't properly serve its population because it has gone "bankrupt"?

doesn't anyone else recognize how insidiously absurd this all is?

i know such questions lead one to suspect i'm a communist.

i'm a humanist.

i believe that much of humanity cannot survive if we remain tied to an unsustainable system fashioned around this concept of "debt."

how can we wean ourselves off the notion that there must be a financial incentive to service the needs of man?

i don't believe it's human nature.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-08 12:17

Well, the value of money itself is completely abstract.

http://www.thevenusproject.com/a-new-social-design/resource-based-economy

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-08 12:21

>>2
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Name: Anonymous 2010-05-08 12:38

>>3
it is in mine

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-08 13:16

your fucking retarded bro

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-08 13:36

It's all fake, man.  It's not real!

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-08 13:50

>>5
yeah what about him????

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-09 2:19

slavery!!!

:/

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-09 3:14

>>1
I don't have any debt, money is for spending, I don't hoard it.
There are others like me, debt is foolish.

>>2
thevenusproject
Fuck you.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-09 3:15

>>9
How do you aquire money in the first place

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-09 3:22

>>10
Getting paid for serviced rendered.

How the fuck is borrowing money going to get you more money than making no strings money?

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-09 3:35

>>1
This is why I don't have a credit card. It's very temping to spend with one, even for the most responsible amongst us.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-09 4:21

>>11
So you keep rendering services to aquire money that you do not keep.  Wouldn't it be more efficient to put your money to work for you, so that you have more free time.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-09 10:12

>>8
As much as I dislike this poster, he's right. This system of debt is a system of economic slavery. The saddest thing is people think they're still free whilst being under it.

Name: Anonymous 2010-05-10 1:51

>>14
aw, but do you know WHY the physical representation of slavery from debt? Money represents pride and debt is slavery. So people are forced to give away their pride and encouraged to be placed into slavery.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved then those who think they are free." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

So, those that created the system understand that in order to be free you must fight yourself OUT of slavery by giving away your pride. Those that aren't aware of the system nor it's original intention see it as a way to have what they want now, which works at first but ends up drowning them in sorrow for their indulgences...AND these same people are wanting for more money which is a wanting for more pride.
It's a sad state of affairs when you don't know what you're doing...just fumbling about like a dog with something that looks like a good chew toy...nope, it's the holy grail.

:/

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