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Believing in a CREATOR is more LOGICAL

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-13 6:52

Forget Christianity for a minute and let's just talk about the universe. You want to use only logic and intelligence and reason, right?
Sounds good to me. And, using all your logic, intelligence and reason points you to the conclusion that there is probably no God, so he obviously didn't create the universe, right? If so, that means the universe came into existence by accident - the big bang, the small bang, the billions of years of evolution, whatever you call it, however you slice it - the universe just happened.

Here's the problem with that: your theory very clearly violates the second law of themodynamics - a LAW of science, not a theory, that, as you know, is commonly called entropy. Everything is falling apart. Everything in the universe is constantly going from order to chaos and has been for as long as we know - hence the reason it's a law.
Now, I'm using logic to explain logic here and if you're following along, which I assume you are, then you are also using logic, which can only mean one of two things:

1.) The human brain is the amazing, incredible exception to the law of entropy when suddenly the chaotic, accidental process of evolution had a spurt of genious and created order out of chaos. Then after entropy had taken a break for a while, so that humans could be created logically and intelligentally, the universe picked up again on it's merry way of continually detiorating towards chaos. This would be truly incredible, considering there are no exceptions to other scientific laws, such as gravity. Incredible - meaning, literally, unbelievable.

2.) Or you could go out on a limb and suppose that the unvierse was set up with order and intelligence from the beginning.

Geez. Which one seems like the bigger logical and scientific leap?
Remember, we're not talking about Christianity or God, just trying to figure out how we came to be logical out of chaos.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-13 7:09

tldr

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-13 7:35

>>2
If you can't read something that only took me less than two minutes to go through, then you should just lay your head in shame and head on back to /b/. It would be a more suitable place for the length of an attention span similar to yours. Thank you.

Name: Sageing fail since 1463 2010-02-13 8:38

>>3
sage&tldr

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-13 14:37

I wonder what the OP was about.  I did not read it.  It was long.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-13 15:57

>>2,4-5
Don't worry guys.  I read it, it was really dumb.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-14 19:27

>>2
>>3
>>4
>>5
>>6
Samefag

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-14 20:01

OP doesn't understand the second law of thermodynamics very well.

The Earth is not a closed system, there is a massive amount of energy coming in everyday from that big ball of fire in the sky.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-14 20:03

>>8
Bullshit.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-14 20:06

>>9
Well, I see your logic is clearly superior to mine.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-14 20:15

It's takes a man to admit he is wrong which you clearly were.

Looks like you're not so stupid after all, >>10.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-14 20:36

>>11
ty for setting me straight sir

(f u fgt)

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-14 22:27

The reason its a big mystery is because god isnt involved with us. He probably just created us like we created a paper airplane. You dont give a shit about the paper airplane and he could care less what happens to us. Hes probably done playing with us.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-14 22:31

He probably just created us like we created a paper airplane.

Whoa.  That's pretty deep

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-14 22:33

The most logical assumption is that one day science will be able to explain existence without the need for a god, just like it has done with all other mysteries of life so far.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-14 22:51

If god didn't create us them who did huh?

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-14 22:54

>>16
The universe had a random fart, that gas cloud condensed and here we are.

Name: RedCream 2010-02-15 9:59

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Name: Anonymous 2010-02-15 10:43

>>18
I imagine that is rather enjoyable.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-15 10:52

>>18
It's a trap!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-15 17:21

THE PLEASURE OF BEING CUMMED INSIDE

Name: RedCream 2010-02-15 17:23

Being cummed inside in a pleasurable fashion? I admit my role!

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-15 19:18

OP's mistake is when he assumed that a universe with lower entropy cannot, through natural processes, give rise to complex things (like animals and brains). On the contrary, as entropy increases, matter settles into systems stable at that level of energy. Matter always settles into stable systems, wether it is quarks condensating into atoms milliseconds after the big bang, or brown dwarfs turning into dead iron cores, eons after the heat death of the universe.

The amount of entropy in a system doesn't always translate to level of complexity.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-17 3:47

i say it's magic

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-17 3:53

Everything has a creator. I create poop therefore there is a creator of man...... and woman.

Name: Anonymous 2010-02-17 3:59

>>25
NO IT'S MAGIC!!!

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