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Ad Hominem

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-26 5:23

Guilt by association

Guilt by association can sometimes also be a type of ad hominem fallacy, if the argument attacks a person because of the similarity between the views of someone making an argument and other proponents of the argument.

This form of the argument is as follows:
Person A makes claim P.
Group B also make claim P.
Therefore, person A is a member of group B.

Example:
"You say the gap between the rich and poor is unacceptable, but communists also say this, therefore you are a communist"

This fallacy can also take another form:
Person A makes claim P.
Group B make claims P and Q
Therefore, Person A makes claim Q.

Examples:
"You say the gap between the rich and poor is unacceptable, but communists also say this, and they believe in revolution. Thus, you believe in revolution."

A similar tactic may be employed to encourage someone to renounce an opinion, or force them to choose between renouncing an opinion or admitting membership in a group. For example:
"You say the gap between the rich and poor is unacceptable. You don't really mean that, do you? Communists say the same thing. You're not a communist, are you?"

Guilt by association may be combined with ad hominem abusive. For example:
"You say the gap between the rich and poor is unacceptable, but communists also say this, and therefore you are a communist. Communists are unlikeable, and therefore everything they say is false, and therefore everything you say is false."

A reductio ad Hitlerum argument can be seen as an example of a "guilt by association" fallacy, since it attacks a viewpoint simply because it was supposedly espoused by Adolf Hitler, as if it is impossible that such a man could have held any viewpoint that is correct.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-26 6:46

JEWS

Name: RedCream 2008-09-26 9:13

>>1
FAIL.  There are plenty of Jews who are behaving in exactly the way the National Socialists claimed they were in the 1930s.  Zionism is now setting up Humanity for World War III.  The banking industry (much dominated by Jews) is now sucking trillions from national taxpayers across the world.

In other words:

If you saw a Black guy breaking into a house, would you sit there like a stupid fucking Liberal and ruminate on how unfairly Blacks are treated in this society, or would you go get a gun and shoot the motherfucker?

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-26 15:47

Can't I do something less extreme, such as whack his lower spine with a sledge hammer?

Name: RedCream 2008-09-26 17:16

>>3
Yes.  I was merely pointing out the act of assertive defense.  Of course, 99% of you limp-wrists wouldn't EVAR challenge a Black criminal.  No, you'd call the cops and wait while the nog finishes up his burglary and leaves.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-26 20:50

>>5
1/10

Name: RedCream 2008-09-27 14:47

>>6
Yes, you may be right.  It could be as high as 1 out of 10 would perform such a challenge.  So that makes it 90% instead of 99%.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-27 14:49

>>7
lol you totally misunderstood what he was implying, you dumbass troll.

Name: RedCream 2008-09-27 20:40

>>8
No, I was quite clear in my use of a percentage, and then you chimed in with a fraction.  The conclusion is OBVIOUS.

Stop being such a silly person; it's time to get serious.

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-28 19:50

>>9
stop being such a dick to me and take what I say seriously man

Name: Anonymous 2008-09-28 20:38

you guys are fuckin dicks man

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