What's the point of secondary education (middle and high school) in the United States? You learn nothing. It's one big social shithole were little learning takes place. Actually you do learn some things like how to get pregnant, how to do drugs, and how to cheat on tests. Primary education (elementary school) though in the United States isn't that bad, they teach most of the kids basic mathematics, science, history, and how to read and write. Although a lot of that knowledge is lost in secondary school.
They should start training people for a trade in public school instead of this elitist higher education bullshit where all the wrong people are given all the wrong jobs. I dropped out of school. Not because I do drugs, I'm stupid, or I'm lazy. I quit because I don't believe in ignorance, the consumption of alcoholic beverages, the smoking of tobacco and marijuana, the use of other drugs, dating, and fornication. They were also basing grades on social and economic status, not knowledge and effort.
Instead I decided to take a series of five General Educational Development (GED) Tests and I passed them with above average scores. I was awarded a High School Equivalency Diploma which certifies that I satisfactorily completed comprehensive tests selected by the Commissioner of Education for determining general educational achievement equivalent to high school graduation.
Studies have shown that most high school graduates when tested have failed to pass the GED Tests. Ironically some of its critics who likely have never seen the test refer to it as, "too easy".
Most people with degrees can't even do the professions that they studied in a university for 4 years any better than a 5th grader, if not worse. Yet they're the experts because they're "qualified". I know I'll have a hard time financially in this society that is based so much on false education but I don't care about that. I'm satisfied knowing inside that I'm pretty smart, who cares what other people think. All those companies would rather hire people who don't know anything. It's their loss.
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Anonymous2008-01-19 23:49
Indeed. I have called for the abolishing of high school, or alternatively streaming into work camps. We could do a lot of good if the shitty years of youth were spent in work camps rather than fucking up society.
What's the point? "One big social shithole" is the point. I thought you Commies liked that idea. It just prepares most of them for prison, anyway.
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Anonymous2008-01-20 11:59
Read the book "Science Shams and Bible Bloopers", that guy has an entire chapter on how the American education system sucks and why you should homeschool.. I think you might have a lot of common ground with his ideology although he recommends homeschooling as the best alternative
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Anonymous2008-01-20 12:46
>dating, and fornication
This part just makes you sound like a bitter virgin. Otherwise, I'd agree.
I'm not American but I agree. It's the same in Canada.
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Anonymous2008-01-20 21:07
With "freedom" comes shitty schooling.
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Anonymous2008-01-20 22:53
This is what people should do:
Rename the course levels from "CP," "AE," and "Honors" to "Basic," "Intermediate," and "Expert." Second, create a school-wide listing of the GPA's of people to function as a ranking. Third, within each class, there should be a list of everyone's grades sorted by the order of the numeric value of the grades. Fourth, everyone's grades at every assignment and every class average must be made public sorted by the same method. Fifth, good grades should be rewarded.
The problem with schools in the U.S. is that people are too focused on self-esteem, that they really do not want people to do well because "that hurts the feelings of people who fail at school." Result? No learning, just all failures, and trying to get people to feel satisfied with their failure.
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Being satisfied with failure goes right up the alley of the powerful educational unions, whose watchword is FAILURE. So-called educators are about the only profession where failure is not deemed sufficient reason to make any changes to their methods.
Imagine if you (assuming you weren't a public-school teacher, of course) could tell your boss tomorrow that very few of your efforts in your work will result in achieving minimum requirements, and that that's OK, since failure is what everyone should expect ... and, oh yeh, you still expect to get paid, then get a fairly fat benefits package, and on top of all that, you want assured seniority bonuses and eventual security against any firing whatsoever.
Buddy, if you said all that in the private sector, you'd be tossed out on your ear like you deserved. But for some reason, this kind of attitude is tolerated (even encouraged!) with teachers in public schools.
Public schools REWARD failure, in fact, in these ways and others. Hence, they are sanctuaries of failure.
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Teachers are allegedly highly trained in educational methods. There is NO EXCUSE for their huge levels of failure in the public schools. The only possible excuse is the UNION MENTALITY that says teachers exhibit more concern about their labor contracts than they do about educating students.
Remember, fuckball, that teachers are SUPPOSED to be the ADULT SUPERVISION in a school. You're implying teachers aren't competent enough to even merit the job. Well, I agree. Fire their stupid asses and put the students to self-study work in order to get useful things done. The ex-teachers can then re-join the REAL WORLD where they will be expected to PERFORM or be FIRED.
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Anonymous2008-01-21 1:36
>>21
Obviously you haven't seen the defective cunt kids that I did. These pricks should be in work camps, not school. They don't need teachers, they need guards. The best thing a teacher could do would be to tell them to get the fuck out and don't come back, but they lack authority to do so.
Self-study for these lumps of shit wouldn't get past the penis stage.
When I read of schools that have been turned around, it's by having close to hands-off administration, and letting the principal really fucking run things. They need to fire the six layers of administators, the people who naturally make the good money.
>>22
Teachers should be given control of their schools back. I certainly agree with that. With full authority, will they then educate the masses? Let's find out.
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Anonymous2008-01-22 0:35
There is not enough parental involvement during the schooling process. Schools are often treated as child care.