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Primitive man less intelligent than us?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 15:10

Do you think "Primitive" man are far less intelligent than the humans of today?

What if a man/woman with the same "IQ" of normal humans today was born in a "primitive" world, without knowledge of anything but their own instincts, and the knowledge of the "primitive" humans around them. Do you think this person could accomplish more than the common "primitive" man could? Is our superior "Intelligence" just a illusion, since we never discovered everything we were taught, but that our "inferior" ancestors discovered, little by little?

Do you think YOU could discover the properties of fire/plants (farming) without previous knowledge of these subjects, just using your basic human knowledge? Do you think you could invent important things such as the wheel, wagon, irrigation and weaponry?

Do you think Billy Bob that lives down the street could discover fire if he, and no other human had previous knowledge of its properties? Do you think the young girl that served you your coffee at the local Cafe could? Do you think Stephen Hawking could?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 15:17

Sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of the rock.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 15:19

i could.
i'd just nip down the local shop n buy a match,
there,  I DISCOVARD FIRE!!  ZOMG

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 15:47

>>3
Fail for not reading

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 16:42

>>3
Fail for being less intelligent than primitive man.

Name: ANONYMOUS IS INTELLIGENT 2007-01-09 20:44

>>1
I think the reason we are so intelligent today is because we have a lot of experience and knowledge constantly being passed down through the generations.  The primitive men don't have this, so if one of us were born into a "primitive" society, we probably would completely blend into that society and provide little or no technological improvement out of the ordinary.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 20:51

No, we wouldn't. Intelligence is a combination of anture & nurture; we are all born with a certain potential individual capacity to learn, based on a number of factors. However, you can only learn from experience, and in the practical day to day life of stone age man your contact and experience of abstract concepts would be minimal. This is why such knowledge is built up and accumulated over generations.

Basically, if you were thrown into the woods with toilet paper at 3 months, you'd most probably eat it, or fight over it with a dog.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 21:15

>>6
Perhaps.  But do you know how to bring down a Mammoth with a spear?  Or operate a highly sophisitcated farm that did not damage the surrounding ecology?  Or build stone buildings, on sand, that after 4000+ years have sunk only 1/4 inch (as opposed to the Empire State Building, which has sunk 3 inches in 100 years)?

>>1
Intelligence is intelligence, and is limited not by experience, but by imagination.  An ancient Greek Shoemaker/Inventor, Heronas, build what is possibly the world's first steam engine, computer (yes, I said computer - powered by sand and pully, believe it or not), and shares the spotlight with the invention of the rapid-fire Bow Gun (an invention created almost simultaneously by the Chinese).

Cocoa can be found inside certain Egyptian Mummies.  Cocoa only grows in South America.  Therefore, someone was smart enough 3,000 years or so ago to build a ship and create shipping lanes across the Atlantic Ocean.

Moai statues on Easter Island.  Carved from volcanic rock, these monoliths weighing anywhere from 75-270 tons, were transported from their mine to the coast and situated facing west several miles away.  A few years ago an archeologiest showed how these statues could have been moved and set-up by people who only possessed basic tools by using a crude timber/pulley system.  The only fault with his revelation was that he had to import the wood from South America, because there has never been vegetation on Easter Island capable of being used to transport and situate these statues.

Today, we assume we are greater than our ancestors.  The sad part is that only the last few thousand years of our existance was recorded, while everything else is conjecture and hypothetical.  It's worth to note that some legends state that Humankind has existed in its current form not for the past 20,000 years, but for 100,000 years - that humanity has risen in status and intellect, only to be crushed by either arrogance or natural calamity...only to start again.  We supposedly live in the 5th cycle of humanity, according to these legends.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 22:12

>>8
True story. The ancient pantheons were the remnants of such mythically ancient cultures as the Antlanteans. Also, the last cycle of mankind was, in part, brought down by the Lizardmen and their eldritch gods from deep space. Some say the Lizardmen still lurk in deep underground labyrinths, still worshipping their (currently)dead gods and waiting for the best moment to strike again. Are mankind truely the masters of the Earth? We must not become too overconfident.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 22:20

>>9
Dude, stop being full of shit.  You're stinking-up 4chan.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 22:31

>>10
STFU LIZARDMAN

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-09 22:48

Guys...

Who the fuck cares?

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 3:19

Me

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 13:26

>>8
That was a good post, but it has one flaw. People back then worked thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of slaves to death to build these huge monuments to attest their knowledge, skill and grandeur. That really makes them look "smart," doesn't it? Nowadays we don't whip slaves and work for hundreds of years to put up a huge piece of rock and then proceed to bow down in front of it and call it a god.

That's the real difference between ancient and modern man. We still have idiot religions, but not everyone worships large rocks. Or in other words, social ideas are more important than physical structures. If you can come up with an idea how to create such an impressively large building, and then use it to worship a statue? You kind of fall flat on your face in the evolutionary/intelligence scale.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 13:30

Human evolution hasn't really affected the ability to learn for better or for worse, but has changed more physical features.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 13:45

Refer to the series: "Heroes."

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 14:08

>>14
Your reply has one flaw:

Where did these slaves come from, and were they slaves?

In regards to, say, the construction of the pyramids, forget everything the movie "The Ten Commandments" taught you.  It's very inaccurate.  It took far less people to build the pyramids than what is commonly conceived, only for the simple fact that there were both not enough people in the region to have tens-to-hundreds of thousands of slaves NOR the ability to feed, clothe, and care for them (they may be slaves, but they still need food and water, plus clothing and basic medical care if for nothing else than slaves being an expensive commodity.

Second, barely any of the workers who built the various pyramids WERE slaves.  The designers were skilled engineers, equal or better than those we train and use today.  The stone slabs were carved by masons using techniques we are unable to duplicate today.  On at least one pyramid the blocks were secured together with metal rods - metal poured into small notches carved on top of the blocks as they were fitted together via portable smelting pots.  Something that shouldn't have been invented for at least another thousand years.  The people who actually put the pyramids together?  Paid lower-class and foreign workers for the most part, as well as some (but not all that many) slaves.  And lets not forget the artisans.

And as for your statement regarding creating impressively large buildings yet only using it to worship a statue, I suggest waling into any Christian establishment and take a gander at the cross hanging on the wall.

You kind of fell flat on your face in the evolutionary/intelligence scale.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 15:08

>>17
Alrighty, so less in the slave category, but they still made these huge buildings and statues for what reason? For religious beliefs, right? Nowadays we don't waste so much time on such things, we actually try to live our lives instead of constructing lifeless objects.

Well, I suppose the majority of people in the western world have become lazy shlobs instead of religious, but I still think that's better. At least we only kill each other for oil and not just "ZOMG, heez an enemee of my reelijon! Keel him! Burnn heem aliiiive!"

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 18:17

Thats dumb. Muslims are crazy sonsabitches.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 21:37

>>19
No one would argue that.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 22:43

"young girl that served you your coffee at the local Cafe "

I want to fuck that young girl so hard her pussy and ass will bleed. Then cum in her mouth and on her face and body then wash it off with my piss and then force her to lick and suck my feet.

Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 23:06

>>19
"Thats dumb. Jews are crazy sonsabitches."

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Name: Anonymous 2007-01-10 23:07 (sage)

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