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Exposing the Atheist

Name: revmitchell 2006-06-27 5:14

The best way to understand the nature of atheism is to understand its author. Satan is its author.

It's important to remain conscious of the fact that Satan had his origin in heaven, and is thoroughly familiar with the fact of the existence of God, heaven, the angels, hell and etc. Thus despite what you have been previously, deceptively taught and despite the deceptive dictionary's meaning of atheism, atheism is properly defined as a denial of the existence of God in the midst of full knowledge that the true God does indeed exist. Atheism knows God exists; it is quite familiar with that fact, but it says "under no circumstance or situation will I admit to God's existence."

Atheism clearly perceives the fingerprints of God on all of creation, but refuses to admit He is the Creator. Atheism perceives the divine authorship of the TEN COMMANDMENTS, but refuses to admit that God is their Author. Atheism perceives the decorousness and perfection of the TEN COMMANDMENTS, but refuses to admit they are superior to all other laws. Atheism clearly perceives the divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ, but refuses to admit His divinity. If an atheist could see the wounds in the body of Christ and actually feel them with his hands, he would deny that the wounds are there. Atheism is deliberate effort to never admit the existence of God.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-27 5:26

what if you dont categorize yourself as anything? would those of the religious calibur have there heads explode would they go crazy and run a muck?

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-27 5:29

too lon dindt riead

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-27 5:29

tl;dr;

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-27 6:42 (sage)

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Name: Anonymous 2006-06-27 8:35

heehee seems like they're having fun.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-27 12:46

>>1
Fun Facts:
"Hell" as a place of eternal damnation and torture is a creation of Christianity, made to better convert non-Christians who believed in such places.  Originally in Christianity, when one died, you were either sent to be with God (Heaven), or you were not.  You were not sent to "another place".  Further, the word Hell is from the old Norse for "Hel", the Mistress of Nifelheim (home to the enemies to the Gods).  To continue that, the Old Testament states that god cast Lucifer from Heaven, and later when He asked Lucifer (while out on a walk on Earth) what he'd been up to, Lucifer merely replied 'Around' (exact wording will differ between translations).  Meaning that Lucifer was on Earth the entire time, not in some dark dimension plotting away.

Next, the divinity of Jesus of Nazareth has always been up for debate.  In the early days of Christianity, He was regarded as a Prophet, not as God-made-flesh.  His divinity was voted on over 400 years after his death.  The basis for the final decision was the remarks made by four of his apostiles that he rose from the grave.  Never mind that several other Apostiles said he hadn't.  Which you can read about yourself in the Gnostic Gosples (or those that remain).  Just to remind you: Gnostic is derived from the word Gnosis, which means "knowledge", not "wrong".  These books were not included in the Bible because they did not mesh-up with what was written by Mathew, Mark, Luke, & John...the four books that enabled Early Organized Christianity to control the religion.  Before this time, Christianity was spread by travellers, not in temples (another remenant from the pre-Christian faiths).

Furthermore, Atheism in itself is flawed (one may say) in one small way that you did not address: While Atheists do not believe in the existance of a super-natural power that created and gave order to Existance, they do believe that science did.  Keep in mind, though, that only until recently has science been seen as anything other than Super-Natural.  Does this mean I condone those crack-jobs that want to teach Creation in public schools?  No.  Theism is Theism, no matter how you dress it up and give it a great-big 'S' on its' chest.

My advice to you, #1?  Open your eyes to the world, and find God outside the Temples.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-27 13:30

I am right and you are wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-27 13:47

>>8
Why yes, #7 is right.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-27 18:45

>>7 for president

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-27 23:08

>>1
Actually, atheism is properly defined as nonbelief in gods.

>>7
I have never met a fellow atheist who believes that "science created and gave order to existence." It wouldn't make sense to believe that because science is a system of observation and experimental investigation, not a 'thing' like a god. For this reason, science would also have never been seen as supernatural.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-27 23:30

>>11
Atheism:
   1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
   2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.

Non-Belief OR Denial are appropriate definition.

And you missed the point of #7 entirely.  #7 is stating that what had once been seen as supernatural years ago (say 500 or so) is often now seen as science.  By this observation, we may conclude that much of what we see as supernatural today *may* be considered science in the future.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-27 23:35

LIKE WHAT

Name: =P 2006-06-27 23:48

Lyke who cares? 8D

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 1:22

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Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 1:45 (sage)

>>15
Probably.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 3:16

>>7, "finding god outside the temples" is JUST AS STUPID.
NO_ PROOF_ OR_ INCLINATION_ OTHER THAN _HEARSAY_ THAT A DIETY EXISTS.

Step 1: Animals that dont fear death die. (Societal/Behavioral Evoloution)
Step 2: Animals that remain have a biological inclination to resist death. Religion is the product of behavioral/societal evoloution because it conflicts with the biological fear of death by changing the masses perception of death. To a christian/muslim/etc, death is not a scary thing anymore. Death = going to a "better" place where you are told that you are right, and "they" are wrong.
Step 3: The human race stops fearing death, and dies. We are killed because of our mastery of tools, because we developed apposable thumbs. Tools -> Technology -> Mass communication -> Ease of spreading an idea with no factual basis -> Meme: Death is good -> Dont resist death -> Die.

I am an animal that clings desperately to life. I will propogate my existance. I will not be taken in by baseless information/ideaology. I am an atheist. I dont beleive in things that dont have proof. I dont "beleive" in anything because beleif requires faith. Faith is an assumption.

As an animal I can only recognise coralation. An event in my memory coresponds to another event in my memory. Cause and Effect. That is the basis of knowledge. Knowledge is a prediction, based on corralation. Do not misunderstand me. If i witness one thing happen, 99/100 times an event occours before it, then I will assume that the corralation is 99/100 times.

There is a high degree of corraltion, "information", that supports and idea like evoloution. The corralation is not perfect. Perfect corralation is a mathematical possibility, but in a closed system, perfect corralation is impossible.

That is entropy.

Therefore, all "truth" is based entirely on individual experience, when experience is the personal observation of corralation between two events. There is not truth in a closed system. There is only perception, and an all-but perfect personal truth derived from your own perception.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 6:06

>>17
Wow...metaphore is SERIOUSLY lost on you.

Should I explain myself to you, or do you want to continue reading obviously metaphorical text as absolute fact?

Now I know how the authors to the books/scriptures in the Old & New Testaments felt...

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 6:15

>>1
That's stupid, atheists don't believe in god or satan.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 7:00

>>19
Read the replies to find the actual definition of Atheism!

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 11:10

>>18
I highly doubt that >>17 ACTUALLY thinks they mean looking for god as in looking under rocks. I think 17 ignored that literal/metaphorical distinction because it is irrelevant to the point he is trying to make.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 14:39 (sage)

>>21

Thank you.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 15:09

>>21
Sadly, he interpreted a metaphorical sentence into being realistic and replied thusly.

Ignoring what is meant so you can take your own spin in your reply is not a mark of intelligence.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 15:17

>>23
I didn't say he was spinning it, I said it doesn't matter how he took that because it's NOT RELEVANT. THAT MEANS IT DOESN'T MATTER.  HE DOESN'T CARE BECAUSE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 15:45

>>20
What does that have to do with what #19 said?

>>18
>>21
>>23
What exactly is meant by the metaphor?

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 15:55

>>25
Look @ #12; metaphor stands for finding your own beliefs rather than shovel-speech by others.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 16:00

>>24
Alright, then if it does not matter, then WHY DIRECTLY QUOTE THAT ONE LINE FROM THAT ONE POST AND THEN GO ON TO TALK ABOUT IT IN REBUTTLE!?

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Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 16:03

>>26
Ah, I see.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 16:15

I don't get what the big deal is.
None of you got any proof to back up this "my god exists even if you don't believe in him" bullshit.
An Atheist doesn't deny anything. He simply does NOT believe in a God. Atheists know how to shut the fuck up and not debate something so reidickulus. And not force their beliefs upon people.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-28 16:55

Make yourself an hero, you have mental problems, etc.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-29 1:14

>>29
exactly.  and I like to point out to people that atheists believe in Science.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-29 1:50

>>31
What's wrong with that?

And "science" is spelled with a lowercase "s."

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-29 4:55

>>32
First, my keygoard (or my fingers, whatever) have been fucking up with the shift key, oh well.

Next, I point out that atheists believe in science the same way others believe in god.  There is much history in religion that CAN be traced back to an actual event and/pr place, but the divinity aspect is based alone on faith.  Science, too, mirrors this by providing facts based on history and experimentation, but much, too, is based on faith (certain aspects of the Atom, for example, are believed to exist based on the structure of the atom, but because thse certain aspects cannot be viewed or measured science simply assumes they are present (It's 2 am my time, I forget what the damned thing is called, sue me)).

Science in itself can be viewed as a religion, as it too tries to explain how we came to be, tries to explain order in the Universe, and dictates our every day lives in some way or other.  Certainly no-one is bowing to the Almighty Dark Matter, but you do not need to worship something to believe in it.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-29 5:20 (sage)

Religion is for nut jobs, crazy heads & people who can’t accept the fact that death is final.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-29 13:15

>>34
Except it isn't.

Now then, I'm not religious, but I fully believe (based on personal experience), that death is not the end.

That's right.  I see dead people, cats, dogs, and occasional turtles and horses.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-29 13:36 (sage)

>>35 is deluded.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-29 13:49

>>36 eats shit.

See, I can say what I want, too.

By the by, I've also been known to see the future for individuals.  I AM BETTER THAN YOU.

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-29 14:15

>>37
Not good. Stop lying and get on the right path. Sonny, I know you don't want to thread any further ;=)

Name: Anonymous 2006-06-29 23:15

This is a game! we are all playing a game!

It is for FUN! religion is an INTERPETATION

we are all GODS

:)

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