I hate many things, but there is one thing I hate above all else: Wapanese. Even Goths are better than Wapanese and that is saying a lot (no offense to anyone who actually is a Goth, you are better than the Wapanese at least). Even those North Koreans who think Kim Jong-Il is so great don't irritate me as much as Wapanese.
This board and many others are filled with people who idolize Japan as though it were a holy place (and of course they have an analog to the hajj). They download torrents of Japanese commercials! They watch Japanese television and go on about great it is that Japan has the most advanced technology in the world (don't you just want to smack them with a Unabomber's Manifesto?)
However, they gloss over the real Japan, the Japan where women and foreigners are treated terribly and hyperreality engulfs all. Japan, as pointed out in another thread, is the most artificial culture in existance. Wapanese, for some reason, seem ashamed of our "primitive" culture where things are still real.
In short, Wapanese are fooling themselves and living in inauthenticity. If they are so ashamed of US culture (I don't really blame them), they should revolt against it, not look for another culture to obsess on.
~~~Fafemoapiitio te 'oopiitiii faefoootiiiaaiii.~~~
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Anonymous2005-03-26 17:14
Torrent for Japanese commercials, pls
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the Wapanese Mafia2005-03-26 18:54 (sage)
The Wapanese Mafia will sage you five times BEFORE YOU EVEN POST!
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oopiitiii2005-03-26 20:31
I think you've missed the point, mainly how stupid it is to download commercials you'd curse and mute otherwise but want because they are from Japan, which you are convinced is the greatest nation ever.
The only redeeming part of japanese culture is that it is highly mysogonistic (WHICH IS THE NATURAL ORDER OF THINGS) and therefore they make high quality porn that treats women as the worthless sexual playthings that they are (the hot ones anyway).
There is no natural order of things, only chaos. Inauthentic reactionaries like you cling to a notion of order to shield yourself from the responsibility that freedom brings. Your Gorean bilge will do no good against me. Try as you might, you can't show that there is a natural order mandating female submission and for a good reason: it simply doesn't exist.
I'd like to offer a complete refutation of Goreanism, but I don't have the time or space right now. Rest assured that if you try gorean arguments again, I will likely be forced to tear them to shreds. Your reactionism is nothing compared to my philosophy. I suggest you free yourself from the crutch you call order.
I would hate Japan outright if it weren't for my requirement not to be racist. There is nothing redeeming about it other than the artwork that it heavilly ripped off of the West (psychoanalysis, absurdism, etc.) and I am hard pressed to find any reason to spare it my hatred other than a few personal values backed only by my distaste for suffering.
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oopiitiii2005-03-27 16:58
Did I mention how much I hate how Japan stole Dadaism from socialists and called it "superflat"?
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Anonymous2005-03-27 17:24
This thread is a perfect example of why there never will be peace on earth.
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oopiitiii2005-03-27 17:56
Don't look at me. It's Japan's fault. They had no right to recuperate Dada like that. Dada belonged to the West, in particular to socialists and the Japanese stole it from us. There will be peace on Earth once the system gets out of our lives and stops recuperating revolutionary concepts.
Also, Wapanese exist because Japan is taking over the world culture. Have you noticed that the U.S. is producing more and more crap and less quality film and television? Mark my words, Japan is catching up.
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oopiitiii2005-03-27 23:47
Japan doesn't scare me. Much of their high quality television was ripped off of the West (primarily socialists). Still, the Japanese have managed to not only recuperate many socialist concepts and artforms (dada, absurdism, existentialism, etc.), but have also managed to surpass the rest of the world technologically.
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oopiitiii2005-03-27 23:48
Japan doesn't scare me. Much of their high quality television was ripped off of the West (primarily socialists). Still, the Japanese have managed to not only recuperate many socialist concepts and artforms (dada, absurdism, existentialism, etc.), but have also managed to surpass the rest of the world technologically.
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Anonymous2005-03-28 5:41
YOU UNLEASH YOUR ARMY OF STRAWMEN AT JAPAN!
JAPAN TAKES 279 POINTS OF DAMAGE.
ACTION?
ps. Japan is a country, no more, no less. Stop obsessing over it.
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Anonymous2005-03-28 9:52
You're all insane. *rides away on a giant lobster*
They aren't strawmen. My claims are quite accurate.
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SomeDude2005-03-29 19:25
I like Japanese culture (more of the traditional stuff) and I like some japanese stuff. That said wapanese need to get a life. They are obsessing over Japan too much. There is appreciation and respect and then there is blind "faith". I realize that there are MANY MANY things WRONG with Japan. >>13
is right. Obsessing over the good while being oblivion to the bad is the way these "Christian" groups act. You make the rest of us look bad so die already. And Japan is not really technologically more advanced than the U.S. Just because the U.S. doesn't make commercial stuff as "advanced" doesn't mean they're ahead. Our military will run rings around everyone else. Although it would be nice to spend a little less on weapons and such (like $100 or so).
Just my half a cent.
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oopiitiii2005-03-29 20:19
Japan is way ahead of the US technologically. They have cellphones that double as personal computers. I don't obsess over Japan.
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Anonymous2005-03-29 20:30
blah blah intellectual beatdown of Japan
We get the point. You're smarter than a fairly large percentage of 4chan and you are massively pissed at Japan. Now, please, for the sake of everyone who has no idea what the hell you're talking about, GIVE IT A REST.
(Personally, I blame the fact that the poor bastards got their start around 900 AD and stayed mostly isolated 1853-- the way they're going, I get the feeling that the shock from the whole Treaty of Kanagawa incident hasn't worn off much.)
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Anonymous2005-03-29 20:32
>>21
Correction: "... mostly isolated [UNTIL] 1853..." Just human error, nothing to nitpick much.
I hope so. I don't want to see anymore obsessive wapanese.
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Anonymous2005-03-30 18:43
>>25
This is world4ch. It is an offshoot of 4chan. Coincidentally, 4chan is not notable for any decent amount of intelligence among its flock. In short, if you're looking to bring about a change in the way people think, you're posting on entirely the wrong board.
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Anonymous2005-03-30 18:44
>>21
???
I'd understand you, if this were the late 19th century... have you read about the Meiji Restoration? Japan has had over 100 years to take a position on Westernization.
And yes, the era usually called "classical Japan" was circa 900 A.D., but there are written poems and works going back to the 700s, and history from far before that.
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Anonymous2005-03-31 1:26
Obsessing over anything is never a healthy thing.
I'm sure anyone who has taken a Japanese 101 (or JPN I in high school) class has had the unfortunate experience of having to deal with Wapanese. It's pretty funny that as you continue the program, the numbers keep getting cut in half, as the Wapanese are waded out. Why?? Because they are only in it to get their fill of the artificial fanhood of a place and culture that they don't understand, which actually is what attracts them. However, once they realize the structure and the difficulty of having to actually become a part of that culture, they suddenly vanish.
Fandom will always happen and it's just something you have to ignore. It's sad though because then the stereotypes also carry on to people who have nothing to do with this subculture of "Japanicized Americans". (I want to make clear: what I mean by this is, that the Wapanese actually don't care about the culture or the people or the nation at all, simply the glitter.)
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I'd like to add one more note. It's the same idolization of American culture in Japan. Everything, from American style of art and animation, to restaurants, culture and language.
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Anonymous2005-03-31 2:45
I was going to write a really long post justifying wapanese people... but I'm too lazy. >>28 was right about some of what he/she said. but it's not true about every "wapanese" out there.
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Anonymous2005-03-31 2:45
I was going to write a really long post justifying wapanese people... but I'm too lazy. >>28 was right about some of what he/she said. but it's not true about every "wapanese" out there.
You're either trolling or you have failed to inform yourself beyond superficial, overhyped, second-hand information. I'd ask you to please make an effort to go beyond stereotypes and misinformation, but those are cornerstones of the 4chan culture.
I don't know what you're talking about. My knowledge of Japan is gathered from many people I've talked to. It may have errors, I don't spend all my time researching Japanese culture, afterall, but many of my claims come from things said on this very board.
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Anonymous2005-04-01 14:11 (sage)
They might not idolize American animation specifically, but they sure do idolize all western culture. Just look at the ganguro girls etc.
What I hate is the way my friends eat ramen, and call Ring and Ring 2 'Ringu' and 'Ringu 2'. The way they constantly litter sentences with random japanese words (because they can't even speak japanese fluently, morons). The way they, as siad, idolise the Japanese culture and want to move there. They don't even think of the cost involved; varied insurance types, residence, immunisation jabs, getting a new job...... and so on and so forth.
Fair enough, they're all american (I'm British), and we all know most of today's teen generation hates america, but do they have to worship a country that will be one of the hardest to integrate themselves into? And all because they like ANIME.
You don't see me filling a bath with red dye and screaming about Rei.