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Esperanto

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-29 21:34

I know it's a made up language but it is worth learning?

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-29 23:44

Think you just answered your own question.

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-30 1:45

no it is not unless you are interested in esperanto community or artifical languages, the real lingua franca is english now.. it wasn't so clear when esperanto was created

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-30 14:59

Grandaj penisoj

Name: Anonymous 2012-11-30 19:14

How long does it take to even learn it?

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-01 3:39

it's a philosophical question. how well should you know language to consider it to be 'learned'

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-01 7:48

>>1
There is no reason to learn it unless you want to support it.

>>5
The grammar is very simple. It's basic indo european grammar with all useless parts (e.g., grammatical gender) removed and all useful parts made consistently regular (e.g., one declination for all nouns, one conjugation for all verbs).

Some may argue its grammar is still too complicated but it takes about an hour to master it which is negligible anyway compared to the time you'll spend learning vocabulary.

The vocabulary is the biggest hurdle as there is no good way to significantly reduce it compared to natural language, so you'll still spend hundreds of hours studying until you're truly fluent.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-02 17:42

>The grammar is very simple. It's basic indo european grammar with all useless parts (e.g., grammatical gender) removed and all useful parts made consistently regular (e.g., one declination for all nouns, one conjugation for all verbs).

it sounds exactly like.. english :3

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-03 3:23

>>8
dohoho

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-03 5:59

>>9

huh? sure, english has some weird parts in its grammar like irregular verbs or a bunch of redundant tenses, but its grammar still is very simple, words usage isn't so simple though. there were tries to simplify english grammar even more with exactly the same purpose why esperanto was made, particularly i mean "basic english".

on the other hand, these "useless" parts arguably aren't so useless, i hear that esperanto literature (not to mention poetry) suffers from the artifical grammar poverty...

also, there is a rumor that orwell's "newspeak" from "1984" was inspired by esperanto :3

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-06 0:35

>>7
>The vocabulary is the biggest hurdle as there is no good way to significantly reduce it compared to natural language, so you'll still spend hundreds of hours studying until you're truly fluent.

Wut. Just learn the affixes, that reduces the vocab by alot. Most people just end up gluing roots and affixes together instead of learning a bunch of unnecessary words. There are alot of roots you'll see in word lists, but that appear rarely in conversation because people don't really need them, due to the affixes. You can tell when you're reading something written by somebody who learned Eo vocab from a dictionary rather than from speaking with people, because they usually use too many obscure individual words that a well-known root plus some affixes could have created just as well.

>>10
Esperanto lit and poetry suffers from a bunch of amateurs trying to write, not so much from the language itself. As a /lit/fag, I will say that there does exist some esperanto poetry that is good, particularly when the author/poet acknowledges the language's origins rather than trying to pretend it is a natlang. The quality of the writing depends mainly on the skill of the writer, not on the language it's in.

>there is a rumor that orwell's "newspeak" from "1984" was inspired by esperanto

A rumor? I thought it was a fact... 

As for OP: It's worth it if it sounds fun to you. It doesn't have much of a practical application beyond Pasporta Servo. I've never used Pasporta Servo but I've never regretted learning Esperanto and continuing to use it with people, but that's because I'm the kind of person who studies useless stuff for fun.

Name: Anonymous 2012-12-07 8:12

>>11

>A rumor? I thought it was a fact...

i am not sure, it might be inspired by basic english

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