How can I learn the "r" sounds. I find りゃ、りょ, and りゅ very difficult too, because I don't think I'm even beginning to get the "r" sounds by themselves right.
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Anonymous2012-09-27 1:05
>>81
"Spanish R without the trill" worked for me but YMMV
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Anonymous2012-09-27 7:45
>>81
r's are soft d's like is the English name "Eddy"
Just tack on ya etc. and that's good enough
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Anonymous2012-09-28 1:48
What's the best way to go around learning all the different forms of words? When I want to say anything to do with apples, for example, I always say the wrong tense or form etc. How I stop this from happening?
>>85
Tabete, tabemono, tabemasu, tabeta, etc.
I always say something like tabeta instead of tabete, for example. Any tips on how not to get so mixed up all that time?
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Anonymous2012-09-28 13:52
>>86
Um...learn what they mean? They came naturally to me pretty fast since I see them everywhere. Also 食べ物 (tabemono) is a noun and not a verb.
>>88 >>87
Fair enough guys, hopefully I'll just pick them up with time. I made myself look like an ass when I said tabemono instead of fucking tabete.
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Anonymous2012-09-28 19:24
>>89
ridicule yourself enough and the humiliation will eventually force you into remembering
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Anonymous2012-09-29 16:15
Hey guys, I only know very basic Japanese at the moment and have been reading up on basic comparisons, such as.
りんごはねこよりちいさいです。
（This apple is smaller than the cat)
How would I say if something is generally 'better' than something?
Would I use Good いい？
Or can I just leave it as これりんごはねこよりです？
Thanks very much for the help guys - You've been helping me out so much!
>>91
Hi, I'm Japanese.
I think you should use Good(いい).
You need to put adjective after "より".
In this case, the adjective is Good(いい).
このりんごはねこよりいいです。
(This apple is better than the cat.)
This is the answer.
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Anonymous2012-09-30 12:45
Hey guys,
I just need a recommendation for books about learning kanji.
After doing some research, I've found Heisig book (volume 1) and it seems like a good book to give it ago.
However, I can see some flows in this book such as:
- There are no pronunciation/readings (no On/kun-yomi)
- It only teaches radical and kanji, no use of kanji in context (sentences/vocab)
As a result, is there any other book that has pronunciation or readings, and using kanji in context? Or is Heisig a good book?
Thanks.
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Anonymous2012-09-30 13:13
>>95
Heisig, I feel, makes you do more work for the same result.
I recommend www.kanjidamage.com as it's basically a non-convoluted heisig method as well as omits many kanji that aren't necessary to learn in this age.
>>95
Take a look at the Kodansha Kanji Learner's Dictionary.
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Anonymous2012-09-30 21:12
Thanks for the reply guys.
>>96
kanjidamage looks good to me. Though, is there a hard copy for this? I prefer getting a hard copy and practicing rather than doing it on internet.
>>97
Looks good but how does it distinguish from Heisig's book?
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Anonymous2012-09-30 23:42
>>98
It has stroke order, common vocab, kun/on readings, easy lookup, etc.
There's a digital copy (djvu format) floating around the Internet if you want to sample before you buy.
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Anonymous2012-10-01 0:56
why is there so much emphasis on stroke order? I can kind of understand it in regards to characters such as the katakana for 'Ko' but most of this case I can't see the reason behind the fuss.
I was watching a Youtube video and someone drew the Hiragana for 'Se' in the worng order and EVERYONE felt the need to comment, even though this wasn't teaching how to write 'Se' or anything like that. I just don't get it.
I would say it's more important for kanji than kana because of dictionaries and input-method lookups, but more generally, it helps your writing look more uniform.
In the case of the YouTube video comments, remember that (1) some people feel the need to demonstrate their superiority on trifles to compensate for their own failings elsewhere, and (2) those comments are almost always full of shit anyway.
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Anonymous2012-10-01 10:59
>>98
There's no hard copy for kanjidamage. I made my own flashcards to take with me throughout the day though.
>>40
Have you heard of Heisig's "Remembering the Kanji" series? In the first volume, he teaches the character without giving the reading/ phonetics in kana, so you only know the character through the word it's associated with in English (I think). In the foreword he talks about how rote memorization of kanji is extremely difficult because it's so far removed from anything we do in English, which makes the kanji harder to retain.
If you can preview and you can see the second page of the introduction, he talks about it in the 3rd paragraph down. I haven't bought the book yet but I'm really psyched about picking up the series. From what I know about it it seems like a really practical way to get into kanji seriously.
>>103
Woops, little unfamiliar with the text boards still, didn't realize how old this post was.
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Anonymous2012-10-02 16:42
I'm trying to find this book for my class, and the bookstore here is all sold out and won't be stocking more copies unless ten people say they're going to buy it, so that's not happening.
The book I need is 級日本語文法総まとめポイント20 / Shokyuu Nihongo Bunpo Soumatome Pointo 20
I've seen copies of it around on the 'net, but they were all oddly corrupted when I tried to view them, or the download links had expired. I'd really appreciate any help.
Am I doing something wrong? The file you linked, along with all the other copies I've found on the internet don't display in adobe. It says they're corrupted. I've had friends try to open it too, but to no avail.
Ah, thank you! thank you so very much! I was nearly at my wit's end trying to find this book and asking here as the last thing I could think of. You really saved me, thank you.
I'm looking for some Japanese audio conversations with transcripts that include kanji. I'm aware there are tonnes of podcasts out there (Not aware of ones with transcripts, other than the Jpods ones, but that's too much English involved?), and that I could get the audio from anime/J-dramas, but is there anything that's literally just everyday conversations + transcripts?
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Anonymous2012-10-04 14:25
Would you discourage someone from talking in Japanese to a friend of theirs who was also learning Japanese? 'Cause obviously you can reinforce each other's bad habits, I'm not sure if it'd balance out the speech practice?
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Anonymous2012-10-04 14:49
>113
I'm no expert, but it doesn't sound like a great idea. You could both be making huge mistakes without realizing it, and etc.
[did I at least get my point across? was I poilte enough??><]
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Anonymous2012-10-04 18:42
and krikey, why is it SO hard to get my money to japan>?
no one wants to deal with the gaijin like fraud plauge
any UK banks that will allow me to open in JP?
protip, HSBC dosnet anymore,
if anyone in japan wants to sell webmoney codes for markup less than 5800￥ for 5000points 2500￥ for 2000points please post!
>>115
No. No you did not. I haven't the slightest idea what you're trying to say. The slightest bit of context at all might help, but even with it I don't think anyone will know what you're trying to say.
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Anonymous2012-10-04 19:28
well fuck.
the context is, asking if theyt accept paypal as a payment method for digital real money trade service, as i currently have to pay high markup on webmoney points....
baka!
their reply~~
ＰＡＹＰＡＬ 対応はございません
本当にすみません
.... pointers?
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Anonymous2012-10-04 19:35
>>112
Just watch some regular talk show and you'll get lots of kanji in your face. It's an easy way to pick up new words.
>>115
Oh man I wanted to believe that was a horrible machine translation at first, but even those are unable to mangle the language this badly. Then again reading >>116 your English is shit as well. Take your hands off the keyboard and get out.