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learn about Kanji

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 8:06

In the beginning, Chinese dudes wrote pictographs - pictures that looked like the things they represented. The drawback was that writing a paragraph took as much time as drawing a comic book, because IT WAS drawing a comic book! So they (Who? Sages, motherfucker, sages! Who else?) simplified the pictographs into what we now call Kanji. How?
Step one: They chose 200 or so RADICALS as their building blocks.
Step 2:
Any pictograph that was too hard, they said, “OK, what radical does the top part most closely resemble? Swap 'em! What radical does the left part most closely resemble? Swap 'em!” and so on.

For example, the old, complicated kanji for country is 國 . And the current kanji for country is 国。

Now, from the foreigner's point of view, this change is retarded in two ways.

1) the radical that was swapped into the center of the new version means " jewel." (a jewel in a box? What does that have to do with a country?)

2 ) the simplified 国   looks almost the same as the kanji for treasure; 宝 . (more confusion!)

But try looking at it from the point of view of the sages: they didn't have computers, they got bad arthritis, and they had to draw these crazy hard pictographs all damn day. So one of the sages, in his wisdom, said, “"OK, fuck this! Can't we swap the center bit for a simpler radical?” "And the other sage replied, “"Dood, if you drink enough sake,  the center bit looks kind of like  玉 .”"
And the first sage was like, “"Man you are just high as hell, but it's late and I got mad poems to write about seasons and shit, so yeah, let's just say 國   is now officially 国 and call it a day.”"

So that is how that went down.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 10:32

yes, I read kanjidamage too. but

So they (Who? Sages, motherfucker, sages! Who else?) simplified the pictographs into what we now call Kanji.

Except it's called hanzi. Kanji - japanese shit.
Hanzi - chinese shit. Hangul - korean shit.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 11:47

if they were smart they'd use a alphabet

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 12:57

>>3

>"a alphabet"

Seems like you're having trouble with just that.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 13:23

>>2
Hanja would actually be the Korean equivalent to hanzi and kanji. Hangul is an unrelated phonetic alphabet.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 17:22

i can read simplified, and complaining that country looks like treasure is like complaining how the a looks too much like the o letter.
You forgot 王 too.
Man up, sit down and LEARN

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 19:21

Besides, as Heisig (and others before him) proved, you can still make relevant stories out of irrelevant particles.

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 21:40

Chinese characters are not pictographs (except for a few simple ones) and don't show anything that they represent

I think that's where a lot of people get confused

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 22:36

bullshit!

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-07 23:06

>>4
implying it's the grammar and not the alphabet that "troubled" me
implying you didn't get trolled

Name: Anonymous 2011-02-10 2:53

>>10
implying

Just don't do that at textboards, ok?

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