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Esperantists are smug as fuck

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-09 20:42

Smug bastards. Seriously your little shitty conlang isn't the epitome of efficiency or perfection or logic. Do everyone a favor and learn a REAL language, a language spoken by more than twenty people. While you converse awkwardly with your neckbearded fellow "esperantists" in an Esperanto convention somewhere in Lapland, real men are fucking their hot Italian girlfriends who were charmed by their Italian skills.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-09 23:27

No one takes that language seriously do they?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-10 0:50

...Lapland?

Also: Esperantists aren't anywhere near as bad as Lojbanists.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-10 4:25

>>3
Sure they are. Esperantists are to Pythonistas as Lojbanistanis are to Lispers. The latter, at least, have glommed on to a legitimately interesting language. Klingon speakers are Brainfuck.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-10 5:26

There can be more to a conlang than just speaking with many people. The number of speakers most matters to those conlangs which seek to substitute English, like Esperanto. But not so to the likes of Lojban. With Lojban you can think to yourself neutrally, unambiguously, and creatively, which doesn't require a mega speaking community. And in the end it's remarkably well-built and versatile. It deserves more linguistic attention.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-10 9:44

>>5
Oh yeah, you reminded me that "lojbanists" are usually even worse than "esperantists."

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-10 10:05

>>6

In what way, exactly?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-10 14:37

>>6
'Sup, Esperantard? How's your fake romance language working out for you?

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-10 15:00

>>8
I think you're trying to troll the wrong person

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-10 15:06

>>9
He thinks I'm trolling.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-10 19:08

>>10
I think I'm trolling

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-10 19:35

>>11
Shows what you know!

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-15 16:49

Esperanto is a dogshit language.

It's really only going to work well if you already speak a western language.  Eurolangs show tense through conjugation, and number through declination.  That's not true of ALL languages.  Some use verbs to show deference -- there are different words for eating if you are high rank than if you are low rank. 

Personally if I were to make my own interlang, I'd try to make an isolating language.  Everything would be described by adding particles.  I'd try to find the most commonly used word for everything based on the population of speakers, not based on one language.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-15 18:35

>>13
Everything would be described by adding particles.
That strikes me as the way to go.

I'd try to find the most commonly used word for everything based on the population of speakers, not based on one language.
'Sup, lojban? But that's pretty much what I'd do as well.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-16 6:59

>>13
>Everything would be described by adding particles.

That's pretty much how people say things in Lojban. Here is a comparison:

I am eat-ing.

Mi est-as mangx-ant-a. (Esperanto)

mi ca ca'o citka (Lojban)

Indication of tense is mandatory in Esperanto, but not in Lojban:

Mi est-as mangx- -a. [invalid]
Mi est- mangx-ant-a. [invalid]
Mi est- mangx- -a. [invalid]

mi ca citka [valid]
mi ca'o citka [valid]
mi citka [valid]

Notice also that the Lojban content words, unlike Esperanto's, are not morphologically divided according to "verb", "adjective", and "adverb". Compare the following:

You are sad. (English: copula + adjective)

Vi estas malfelicxa. (Esperanto: copula + adjective)

Anata-wa kanasimu. (Japanese: verb)

do badri (Lojban: pure predicate)

One may paraphrase the Esperanto as Vi malfelicxas. (verb) to accommodate the Japanese viewpoint, but then that would conflict with the English, which takes on an adjective.

>I'd try to find the most commonly used word for everything based on the population of speakers, not based on one language.

Again, that's exactly what they did for Lojban.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-16 8:39

I'm not as familiar with Lobjan as I am with Esperanto.  I may need to look into it.

Name: Anonymous 2009-08-28 13:53

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Name: Anonymous 2009-11-29 10:23

Esperanto? More like desperanto.

Think about it.

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