nynorsk vs. bokmål

diskutere.

>>1

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bokmål

which is the "real" uninfluenced one? i forget

>>4
nynorsk

>>4
bokmål is real norwegian

bokmål

http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Høgnorsk

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Bokmål is Norwegian as spoken by Danes.

>>10

Since when did Danes acquire the ability to speak?

Englishfag here. For someone wanting to learn Norwegian, bokmål is clearly the better language to learn, however, which one would be the easiest for me to learn (bear in mind I failed learning German, French and Spanish, the only language I had any success with was Finnish)
Any tips Norwayfags?
Oh yeah, how is the education for foreigners there? If you know ;)

Anything?

>>13
Bokmål is more traditional and the most spoken. The choice is a no brainer.

>>12
ET PUHU SUOMEA BLOKE FUYCK YOU AND LEARN BOKMAL

Nynorsk isn't even a language.
Politics is the only reason it's even official.

>>12
I just want to point out bok means shit in my language. Therefore don't learn the shitty norwegian.

>>16
Lazyness is the only reason bokmål is official. The old fuckers in charge couldn't be bothered to learn anything new, so they left us with some form of bastardised Danish as a written standard. Most Norwegians would have it easier with Nynorsk, if it was taught from the beginning.

they would 'have it easier' with any language if it was taught from the beginning what

>>19
Said just what I was thinking.
That said >>18 is talking out of his arse.

>>19
Exactly.

>>20
Yes I am. It's my guess at why Nynorsk didn't become the dominant written language, I think we can rule out danophilia.

Nynorsk is an artificially constructed language.

>>22
Funny, I remember some idiot saying modern turkish was an artificially constructed language here recently too

no one cares - it's the new, better thing.

>>23
If it was the better thing it would have spread more than it has, it hasn't, it should lose it's official status and just be relegated to the level of dialect albeit an ugly one.

The majority of Norwegian people hate nynorsk, and want it out of the schools.

I hate nynorsk too. Although it's much closer to my dialect than bokmål, it's still a fuckload harder to learn just because everybody can think using bokmål, and then write it, instead of having to imagine an obscure nynorsk word that nobody ever uses.

TL;DR: Fuck nynorsk, go bokmål.

>>23
modern turkish was an artificially constructed language

But it's true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_language#Language_reform_and_modern_Turkish

>>6
So you're saying that half-assed Danish is more Norwegian than Norwegian dialects? More Norwegian than a language actually based on Norwegian dialects?

Really, Bokmål is really nothing more than a Norwegian's half-assed attempt at reading Danish text out loud. The spelling has been tweaked slightly over the years, but it's still essentially half-Danish.

Nynorsk is a collection of dialects spoken by Noregians who are not trying to not be Norwegian.

>>27
Goddamn, you're just wannabe vikings with these Norwegian and Danish shits.

>>28
Obvious troll is obvious

>>29
no i really think that

Ok then, so what's with the "wannabe viking" thing? Speaking a language descended from what the real Vikings spoke?

What the hell are you guys talking about, going on about Norwegians wanting to be vikings? If anything, Icelandic is a wanna-be viking language, as it is the closest language to old Norwegian (which vikings spoke), way closer than Norwegian.

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Isn't the only difference between them the way they are written. Bokmal is the traditional writing system, and Nynorsk is the new one, but they are both spoken the same, amirite?

>>33, >>35
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>>34
>>Isn't the only difference between them the way they are written. Bokmal is the traditional writing system, and Nynorsk is the new one, but they are both spoken the same, amirite?

Nope.

First of all, the Norwegian language is separated into so many dialects that some people don't even understand some dialects (I understand them all, as I'm not a retard). If you take Norway's population into account, Norwegian has the most dialects per inhabitant out of any language in the world. Hell, I'm pretty sure we could give Chinese a run for its money even without taking inhabitants into account. Anyway, I digress.

If you are just reading out of a book, and are supposed to use the nynorsk and bokmål "dialects" (in lack of a better word), they will sound completely different. If you talk using nynorsk, you pretty much sound like a homosexual Swede. If you talk using bokmål, you sound a little bit better, but not a lot. The only place in Norway where they still speak using bokmål is Kirkenes, the northernmost town in Norway. I do not believe nynorsk is spoken anywhere in Norway nowadays, though I have not researched this, and might thus be wrong.

Also, a fun note: Norwegian is just between English and Finnish when it comes to pronouncing words. In English, you don't pronounce any words at all the way they are written (slight exaggeration, you might be able to find some, maybe 50 if you're lucky), which is one big reason for English sucking balls as a language, next to the 5 million exceptions to rules problem, while in Finnish, you pronounce every single goddamned word exactly the way they are written (which would make it the world's best language, if only they didn't have like 24 goddamned tenses).

>>37
Neither nynorsk nor bokmål are spoken languages. When you speak Norwegian, you speak Norwegian or, if you want to specify, you speak [dialect of choice].

>>38

Yes. However, I do hope you realize (since I assume you are Norwegian) that if a person from Kirkenes was to first read bokmål from a piece of paper, then memorize that and speak it normally, it would sound identical.

>>39
Just to clarify, by "person from Kirkenes", I mean somebody who has been living there his/her entire life, not some immigrant Russian or a family that's moved up from Bergen.

>>37
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