Polish, Czech, Slav... similarities?

Good evening.

Purely as a hobby, i've decided that i'd like to pick up a European language (I already speak a couple Asian languages).
I initially wanted to learn Czech, but i was comparing populations that speak languages in Europe and found that Polish outnumbers it and that it also has a lot in common with slavic languages.

tl;dr:  Anyone who speaks Polish or Czech, or any combination of those Slav languages, are there similarities?  'ppreciate your comments.

Swedish is a North Germanic language, not Finno-Ugric.  There are three main Finno-Ugric languages: Finnish, Estonian, Hungarian.  Swedish is not in there.

no the three main finno ogric languages are finnish hungarian and swedish. estonian is a descendant of gfothic u f*ckin norway anti sweden faget perkele u

I'm a native Russian. I'm able to understand not very complex Serbian or Croatian phrases, although I'm not sure that they can understand me.

>>43
ah we can a little bit.
and some things sound very similar

ex - Russian: Dazvidanya (not sure how to spell it)
   - Croatian: Doviđenja

lol u fail. finnish estonian and hungarian are finno-ugaric, swedish is a german language (not deutsch!) and its similar rather to other german languages (norsk, dansk, english..:P) not to finnish or hungarian :P

Name: Anonymous : 2008-10-11 13:52

    Swedish is actually Finno-Ugaric, it just has a shit ton of German loanwords.

that was to this guy.

question for Croats/Serbs

do you have a definite or indefinite article?(in English: "the" and "a/an" respectively) because Ive never heard them used =/

>>47
Slavic languages normally don't have this stuff.
Some of them don't even use the verb "to be," especially Russian.

Aspect the crucial thing of Proto-Indo-European (i.e. Aryan) languages.
Some PIE languages lost aspect and started using article by mingling with non-PIE races.
Polish, Czech, and most of the other Slavic languages maintain aspect and do not use article at all, which is peculiar to PIE (i.e. Aryan) languages.

Also, according to the Kurgan Hypothesis, which has been regarded apparently true, the Y-haplogroup R1a1 is characteristic to the Kurgan (=Aryan=PIE) Culture.
The haplogroup R1a1 is the most concentrated among present-day Slavs, Scandinavians, Althaians, Kazan Tatars, Uzbeks and Indians, whose area is identical with where the ancient Kurgan (=Aryan) Culture was dominant.

Thus Slavs are the purest Aryans among today's European races. Not necessarily pure Aryans, though.
Pure Aryans (=who Adolf Hitler used to call the Prometheus of Human Being) remain nowhere Today.

Germanic, Celtic, etc. are more of mongrels with various non-PIE races, who were native Europeans and represented with the Y-haplogroups R1b1, I and E3b, and PIE (=R1a1=Kurgan) races.
The R1b1, I and E3b may have settled into Europe just after the glacers retreated North, respectively from West Asia, Northwest Asia and North Africa via Asia Minor, before Kurgans=Aryans=PIE races (R1a1) advanced to Europe.
The R1b1 is most concentrated among Basques and little among Finns and Uralic Russians.
The I among Swedes, Ukrainians, and Burgarians and little among Basques.
The E3b among Greeks, Yugoslavs, Germans, Spanish and Portuguese and little among Poles, Basques, Cornish, Scots, Swedes, Norwegians, Icelanders.

>>48
Bulgarians use article. It is because Slavic Bulgarians mixed with ancient Bulgars, a non-Indo-European nomads.

>>45
Not German but Germanic.

>>43
Pan-Slavism is a tool for Russian to finger to dominate all Slavs.
Russians should become modest.
Solidarity of Slavs is okay but West Slavs and East Slavs are so different in nature that they can hardly become one.
West Slavs are descendants of the Przeworsk Culture and West are of either the Zarubintsy Culture or the Cherniakov Culture.
All Slavs are descendants of Proto-Balto-Slavs and Scythian Nomads,
but the East Slavs are more Scythian than the West Slavs.
South Slavs have both roots.
Ancestors of Croats, Serbs, Sloveians migrated from present-day Poland.
Some other South Slavs, who do not remain as ethnic groups until today, are descendants of Antaes who migrated from present-day Ukraine.

Correction:
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West Slavs are descendants of the Przeworsk Culture and West are of either the Zarubintsy Culture or the Cherniakov Culture.
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The West Slavs are descendants of the Przeworsk Culture and the East are of either the Zarubintsy Culture or the Cherniakov Culture.

>>42
Indeed Saami (=Lapps=Samoyeds) in Sweden are Finno-Urgic, but
the dominant ethnic group in Sweden is Germanic Swedes.

>>38
Ancient Proto-Indo-European language is said to have numerous number of consonants.
It means that Poles simply maintain the old PIE tradition today whereas all Slavs created palatalised consonants as well to make things more complicated.

It is the Germans that have been manipulating things so that Slavs hate each other.
Tha Baltic/Nordstream Gas Pipeline is a plot set by German leftwingers with the intention to make conflicts between Russia and Poland.
The Germans have simply carrying out the Divide-and-Rule tactics, a fundamental in the field of foreign politics.
The gullibility of Slavs only help the Germans' plots.

>>55
After reading some related articles I realized that these languages just don't use any letters to indicate the schwa sound. Thus, Croatian "hrvatski" and Russian "хорватски" are pronounced identically, but Russian additionally possesses the letter "o." Consonant blocks with unindicated schwa vowel are uncommon in Russian.

The differences of the German dialects were much greater than those of the Slavic languages are.
The German languages were unified while Slavic ones still remain completely apart.
The Hacek or Caron was created in the 19th century as well as the solidarity anthem "Hej Slavs!" so that the West Slavs and some South Slavs would unify their languages into one to creat one single country from the Baltic Sea to the Adrian Sea.
The project failed because as soon as each ethnic group of them realised independence they quickly became cold and indifference to each other due to the German and Russian scheme to provoke estrangement among those "enlightened Slavs".
Also, the Catholic Church in Poland prevented Poles from taking part in the unification movement in order for them to maintain their exclusive power upon their followers.
This could have also been part of the anti-Slavic plots set by non-Slavic Catholics - probably Austrians and Bavarians – via Vatican.

>>40
wat

You'd best be trolling, son.

Swedish is a well-established Northern Germanic language, related most closely to Danish, and more distantly to Norwegian, Icelandic, and Faroese, and even more distantly to Eastern Germanic languages like English, Dutch, and German.

Finno-Urgic languages include Suomi (Finnish), Magyar (Hungarian), and Saami.

>>40
That's a new one, where the hell did you come up with it?

>>59
English, Dutch, and German are all Western Germanic languages.
All Eastern Germanic languages became extinct centuries ago.

You West Slavs must recapture Carantania!

Emigrate from your countries and settle in Vienna, establish your business enterprises, beget as many children as possible, teach your children the Pan-West-Slavism, choose Slavs for local assembly then the Austrian national assembly, choose a Slav for the Austrian President, change the name of the country from Austria to Catarania, change the national language to a Slavic language, and finally unite the West Slavic countries (i.e. Poland, the Sorbian autonomous regions in Germany, Czech Rep., Slovakia, Catarania, Slovenia, Croatia) to connect the Baltic and Adriatic!
How many centuries might it take, you Slavs must go for it!

>>62
Meanwhile: NIGGERS have taken over Poland and other slave countries.

>>2
>number of speakers
>Italian

lol

>>59
This is just partly true. Swedish is more closely related to Norwegian than Danish.

English, Dutch and German are Western Germanic, not Eastern.

Another major Finno-Ugric language is Estonian (Eesti).

>>65
Plus Hungarian and Komi-Permyak.

>>63
Sorry but we most of West Slavs are not racist but Slavist and anti-German.
We, except a few, don't look down on African or Asian people. Rather, we look up to Japanese people from the bottom of our hearts even though they are not White.
Simply, Japan is our model country.

Again, I'll recap what's basically already been said here but clarify it a little.

Extant Slavic languages include Russian, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Bosnian, Croatian, Serbian, Czech, Slovak, Slovenian, Bulgarian, Macedonian, Polish, Kashubian, Sorbian (aka Wendish, Lusatian), and a few others.

Extant Germanic languages include German (Modern High German), Yiddish, Schwabisch (Swabian), Letzebuergisch, Bairisch (Bavarian), and many other dialects of German proper, Dutch, Hollaands (Hollandic dialect), Flemish, Afrikaans, Limburgish, English, Frisian, Swedish, Skånska (Scanian), Danish, Norwegian (including Nynorsk and Bokmål), Faroese, Icelandic and a few others.

Extant Uralic languages include Hungarian, Ostyak, Vogul, Finnish, Karelian, Estonian, Sa(a)mi, Cheremis, Komi, Mordvin, Udmurt, Enets, Nenets, Selkup, Tavgi and—you guessed it—a few others.

Extant Baltic languages include Latvian and Lithuanian and some minor dialects throughout the Baltic regions

serbfags/crofags

does "zaspiš" mean?

>>68

zaspati = to fall asleep
zaspiš = (you, singular) fall asleep

>>69
thanks
such a simple word and i cant find it in my dictionary

what are the differences between Serb/Bosnian/Croatian other than Serbs use Cyrillic?

>>70
zaspiš is a conjugation, you'll only find the infinitive in teh dictionary.

>>71
Pronunciation and a few minor words. Mostly just dialectal differences, afaik.

I think Bosnian and Croatian are more similar than when compared to Serbian. At least I personally can understand Croatian better than Serbian (my father's from Bosnia). But now that I think about it, there are actually even some Croatian dialects that I have minor trouble understanding.

Having such similar languages, why do you have to kill each other?

>>74

Shithead politicians, what else? And there's also the religious differences, I guess.

>>75
what else? your grandmas, grandpas and parish priests.

アメリカ人＝バーガー野郎
イタリア人＝ピザ野郎
日本人＝米野郎
韓国人＝キムチ野郎
インド人＝カレー野郎
ロシア人＝ウォッカ野郎

>>76
its true. every time Slobedan's popularity dips he starts a war. as a Croat i can say I've ever met any Serbs that liked the old bastard or approved of an of the wars. We Balkans people would rather get drunk and play soccer than start wars =D

>>73
sounds more like accents than dialects. Like the differences between all the British accents maybe.

>>78
no. ban soccer. soccer causes hatred and violence. read "The Soccer War" by Ryszard Kapuscinski.

I'm a non-Slav, but my grilfriend is a Czech, who says she can
with a least bit of knowledge about some words being different
in meaning and pronunciation make herself understood in her
mother tongue with Croats and Slovenes as well as Poles, Sorbs
and Slovaks.