你们会不会说中文？

Yeah, I suck at it even after two years of learning it every day.
Is anyone here actually proficient at it?

死黄猴子，回大陆耕田吧你。
Of course there are, not everyone here is from America, or is white.

What did you expect man? Learning such an exotic language is going to take years.

lol chinese

that's because simplified chinese is like learning english when every word is abbreviated

traditional follows patterns and is way easier to memorize, know traditional and it's only a small step before you master simplified

>>5
have fun writing 15 strokes for each word.

Traditional sucks. I'm a communist and I like doing things the simple way with less strokes.

>>6
nah i'll just switch to simplified when writing, easy

inferior commies too scared to admit simplified is garbage and for all their chinese cultural pride faggotry they can't even read the language

mmmm your tears so yummy

Or be a weeaboo like me, and come into learning Chinese after so many years of learning (quite a bit of) Japanese.

When it comes to characters, the ones used in Japanese are pretty much halfway between simplified and traditional (Japan simplified Kanji in 1947, but not to the extent the PRC did).

我的中文不好.

我来了，我来了！

是、我会说中文。

>>10 你中文没錯！

so if one learns traditional characters, then he will be easily able to pick up simplified

but if he learns simplified, he will have a hard time reading traditional?

so one should learn traditional, then?

>>14
not really, why should it be easier for a person that knows traditional characters to pick up simplified characters? It's not like its harder to remember a character that has a few more strokes. Traditional characters are also used in Japanese (apart from a couple hundred that were slightly simplified, but not as vigorously as was done in the PRC).

I've been studying Mandarin for a few monthts now. Grammar quite easy, at least what I've been doing until now, and I'm pretty good with hanzi. We're required to learn simplified characters but I try to learn traditional at the same time.

What kills me is pronunctiation: not the actual sounds but goddamn tones, I can't say something without fucking up... unless I speak super slow of course. I have an oral exam next week and I know I'm going to get fucked in the ass.

大家好，我會講一點國語~
現在我的中文不太好。因為我要今年夏天到中國，所以我必須練習啦。

>>17
Traditional characters? Another Taiwanese bastard.

>>18
恩~  你為什麼不喜歡台灣人？

我想繁體字比較容易記，也比較漂亮。

>>19
I always thought they speak Min Nan in Taiwan, not Mandarin. Taiwanese attempts to speak Mandarin are strange, I just don't trust them if I would be learning putonghua.

>>20
Mandarin is the first language in taiwan, especially taipei (where I studied).  Most taiwanese can also speak 台語, but it isn't commonly used by younger generations.  It seemed to me that knowing 台語 was primarily a way to maintain cultural heritage or speak to grandparents.

I wouldn't call their mandarin accent strange.  Sure, there are some slight differences, like pronouncing 是 and 四 identically, and I find they sound a little mumbly, but it's nothing major.

I understand where you're coming from- I was apprehensive about that before going to taiwan.  But when I actually went to asia I realized that they might call the beijing dialect "standard" but that really doesn't mean anything.  There are differences in pronunciation all around china, and the difference between taiwanese and chinese PTH is definitely not enough to rule it out as a place for learning mandarin.

If you're interested in going to asia to learn chinese, remember that you're probably going to have a white person accent more than anything.  So don't worry about what accent they speak with, and go wherever excites you.

我不说中挂画很好。。。

Anyone have any material/forums that would help a guy trying to find work in China/Taiwan?