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Japanese - Ask questions thread

Name: Anonymous 2007-03-24 3:04 ID:DnRX6EFG

Basically if you have a question about the language, ask it and fellow 4channers might see it and answer it for you.

To start it off. When an animate object (iru) dies, is it considered inanimate(aru)?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 12:10

>>560
Incorrect.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 12:26

The tooth/teeth of my mother are in good health.

haha (mother) wa ha (tooth) wa dai jou da?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-05 14:04

Joubu tte iundayo...

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-06 11:58

>>562
Great.

However, 丈夫 is read as "jou bu".

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-06 20:19

I have a serious question that has been bothering me for a long time. Why do the japs relate the march of the British Grenadiers music with ユーキャン ??

Example: http://www.nicovideo.jp/tag/ユーキャン

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-06 23:40

i hat.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-07 0:46

>>558
I had problems with my particles but then I searched torrents for any help, and I found this, http://search.utorrent.com/search.php?q=japanese%20particles&e=http%3a%2f%2fwww.mininova.org%2fsearch%2f%3futorrent%26search%3d&u=1
I tried learning particles from websites, but I was confused as hell, and they never seemed like they worked. In example, websites tell you で=by way of, but how would that explain テーブルのうえであそんでいる

but this book PDF exlains it, it explains like fucking 188 uses of like 60 particles

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-07 1:22

>>567
"de" also denotes the place of an action.

Particles have more than one function each, so get used to it.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-07 2:44

>>568
Yeah I know that now, I'm saying I was confused about it until I looked at this book. I'm also in Japanese 3 and I still have only learned 1 way of で, lol.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-07 2:46

oh shit, I linked to the dictionary, not the one that explains it, lol, sorry, here's the right one
http://www.mininova.org/tor/390633

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-07 3:54

「で?」

Maybe this is the one of most difficult usages of "で" to understand.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-07 5:14

What is the different between "de" and "nite"?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-07 11:33

>>572
There is no difference in term of the meaning.
However, "nite" is more polite than "de".

example:
 1.明日の会議はA教室 で やるよ。
 2.明日の会議はA教室 にて 行います。

1 & 2 both means "Tomorrow meating will be held at the room-A.", but 2 is more polite.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-07 23:01

How do you say "hand-eye coordination" is Japanese? I'm not sure any of those online translaters will help as intended. Unless it really is: 手目の調整

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-08 1:45

>574
直訳:「眼と手の共同作用性」or「目で見て行動する力」
医学的な用語として使わないなら「反射神経」

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-08 1:50

>>575
I'm not following too much. Even with a translating program.

What I've really needed the translation for was for this sentence.

: This sport requires hand-eye coordination.

Name: Nekoneko 2007-10-08 2:20

This sport requires hand-eye coordination.

このスポーツは眼(目)と手の協応動作が必要です。

But I'd say:

このスポーツは高度な眼(目)と手の協応動作が必要です。
(This sport requires a high level of hand-eye coordination.)

Because all sports are pretty much a matter of hand-eye coordination.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-08 2:22

>>576
Common phrase:
「このスポーツは反射神経と集中力が必要です。」

If the sport is ball game(like the Baseball):
「このスポーツはボールを見てすぐに対応する能力が必要です。」

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-09 7:58

I really wish weaboos would just learn real Japanese instead of faking it. Do you even know what watashi means?

Also romanized spelling is NOT an offical or very accectable form of Japanese. The only time I've ever seen something Japanese that was written with Roman/Latin letters was for English. 可愛い is how you write cute, not kawaii. If you went to Japan and wrote with the english alphabet instead of Japanese Kanji people would just laugh at you.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-09 7:59

I really wish weaboos would just learn real Japanese instead of faking it. Do you even know what watashi means?

Also romanized spelling is NOT an offical or very accectable form of Japanese. The only time I've ever seen something Japanese that was written with Roman/Latin letters was for English. 可愛い is how you write cute, not kawaii. If you went to Japan and wrote with the english alphabet instead of Japanese Kanji people would just laugh at you.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-09 13:55

>>579
>>580
It's easier to write romaji *with a romaji keyboard*. With Microsofts japanese convertion tool freezing every other day, needing to be reinstalled to work, no one wants to cut and paste kanji/hiragana characters one by one.
...so stop spamming.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-09 13:59

Questions:
1. Is "aishiteru" (I love you.) really a shortening of "aishite iru"?
2. Must this phrase be used explicitly to express that *I* love *YOU*, or can it be used to express someone else loving something/someone else?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-10 19:42

>>582
aishiteru is the -te form of ai suru? aishiteiru is the -teiru form of ai suru?

and no you can say  でも、彼女を愛してるんですよ!
But, i love mah girlfriend!

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-11 5:51

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-11 9:25

>>581
Jesus, an actual logically thinking person.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-11 13:29

>>585

Jesus had several illogical thoughts, for example he thought he was the son of God.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-11 14:10

>>586
I was referring to post 581. I was using the term Jesus out of exasperation.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-11 22:36

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Name: Anonymous 2007-10-12 14:18

What's the difference between "verb + koto" and "verb + no"? For example, why is is that "eiga miru no ga suki" seems to be OK but you "nihon ni itta koto ga aru" is the only way to go? Does it depend on tense? Context? Polite vs plain? Please help!

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-12 20:52

>>589
ざんねんながら ほうそく は ない かも しれません。
 
たとえば、
 きのう よふかし を したことが いけなかった。
 きのう よふかし を したのが いけなかった。
 (I shouldn't have stayed up late last night.)
は、~した+こと と ~した+の が どちらも OKな れい です。

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-13 3:31

>>589
If I recall what my teacher said, koto is a fact/event whereas no is personal

5 seconds of google found me this link
file:///C:/Users/Russ/AppData/Local/Temp/pdfdownload/pdfdownload-20070913/TakuboAbstract2.pdf

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-13 3:33

err..
I opened the PDF with firefox but I guess it saves it to my computer and shows the wrong link, so here's the real link..
http://www.hmn.bun.kyoto-u.ac.jp/langlogic/abstracts/TakuboAbstract2.pdf

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-13 3:45

>>583
Unless there's some kind of special conjugation exception going on in the "ai" case, I'm pretty sure that plain "aishite" is the -te form of "aisuru", which makes me wonder where the extra "-ru" comes from. I've also seen the expression written as "aishite'ru", and the textbooks tell me that the te-form must be linked to something else to complete a meaning/sentence.

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-13 10:11

Question:
What kinds of "keiyoushi" use "ga" and what kinds of them use "ni"?
Examples:zou wa hana "ga" nagai
         sensei wa rekishi "ni" kuwashii
         sensei wa gakusei "ni" kibishii
Am I correct?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-13 11:19

>>594
Trying to translate the sentense to english is one way to find which to use.
If the word that is before the keiyoushi becomes to the Subject(ex. "hana ga nagai" is translated to "hana is long"), you should use "ga".

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-13 18:09

>>593
it's iru, the i is dropped all the time in slang
愛している

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-14 3:03

Question:
Can we use "shiyaku" and "kanou" at the same time?
Example:eat----taberu
        eat(shiyaku)----tabesaseru
        eat(shiyaku+ukemi)----tabesaserareru
        eat(shiyaku+kanou)----tabesaseru koto ga dekiru???

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-14 4:28

what's しやがって, as in, 無茶しやがって?

If it's slang and it cut off some stuff, what's the original? If that's just what it is, can you break it down for me?

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-14 4:45

>>598
「やがる」 is a verb suffix used to indicate hatred or contempt for the person doing the action. Unlike the rest of the slang covered here, this extremely strong language is not used in normal, everyday conversations. You will probably never hear this expression outside of movies, comic books, games, and the like. However, it is covered here so that you can understand when it is used in those mediums.

In order to use 「やがる」, you simply attach it to the stem of the verb. After that, 「やがる」 conjugated just like a regular u-verb.


1) あんなやつに負けやがって。じゃ、どうすんだよ?
-Losing to a guy like that. Well, what are you going to do?

2) やる気か?だったらさっさと来やがれ!
-You want to fight? If so, then hurry up and come on!

Name: Anonymous 2007-10-14 9:05

>599
You may not hear it in polite conversation among strangers, but it does come up in less formal contexts. I even heard it from a waitress in a restaurant once--she was annoyed by a (female) customer at the counter who kept talking to her. When the customer eventually left, the waitress exclaimed to one of the cooks: 面倒クセェな、喋りやがって!--and loud enough that some people around did overhear. It was in a Japanese restaurant in France though, so I guess she figured the customers wouldn't understand. Well I did understand, but found it more funny than offensive. Quite unladylike for sure.

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