To all Esperanto-speakers

Please learn a real language.

Nobody speaks esperanto. Your words fall on deaf ears.

http://www.xibalba.demon.co.uk/jbr/ranto/

http://www.tokipona.org/

Learn a real language, nerds.

>> 3

JBR's article was long ago debunked by a truly recognized expert in Esperanto, Claude Piron:

http://claudepiron.free.fr/articlesenanglais/why.htm

DESPERANTO IS FOR DESPERATE NERDS

Seriously, what the fuck is the point in Esperanto?

Spanish isn't much harder, opens the same gateways for other languages and is spoken by a shit ton of people. Esperanto, on the other hand, is spoken by fuck all people in comparison.

Spanish irregular verbs: hundreds.
Esperanto irregular verbs: zero.

Spanish grammatical genres: two.
Esperanto grammatical genres: zero.

Spanish different conjugations to memorize: nine.
Esperanto different conjugations to memorize: zero.

The list could go on and on. So, yes, Spanish is much harder than Esperanto.

"what the fuck is the point in Esperanto?" -- Well, that's obviously a rhetorical question.

>>9
I'd just add this:
Spanish native speakers: 329 million.
Esperanto native speakers: zero.

>>10
LULZLULZ WRONG

Some retarded parents actually teached their children Esperanto as a first language.

tl;dr Esperanto is made of fail.

I actually do know several real languages (including Spanish).

It's a pretty fun community, I've been to one meeting and talk to one guy over MSN.


Why all the bile?
It doesn't hurt you one bit if others want to learn it.

>>12

Well, for one thing, it prevents the creation and widespread acceptance of a REAL interlang.  Esperanto and interlangs are a good idea to get people a common easy to learn language, however the language of Esperanto is Eurocentric (quick find 15 words in Esperanto that aren't European in origin), and hopelessly complex.  It would be best to start over at this point, yet because Esperanto is popular, no other language is going to overtake it in the near term. 

I've found dozens of workable solutions, yet no one will really start on Toki Pona, Glossa, or Lojban because Esperanto is always there as the "default".

http://claudepiron.free.fr/articlesenanglais/westernlanguage.htm

HOW TO TROLL IN ESPERANTO?

>>13
>no other language is going to overtake it
why did this give me the image of special olympics?

>>16

What I mean is that there are dozens of languages that are superior as far as being less complex and less eurocentric.  Inflected eurolangs just aren't well suited to the way the rest of the world speaks.  An isolating language is easier to form new words for and doesn't require declinations or conjugations.  Not all forgeiners are capable of producing the sounds of a eurolanguage (some are restricted to a CV(v) sylable structure, which isn't what esperanto produces).  If the words require populations to learn entirely new sounds, it won't work very well because quite often a mispronounced word can have a different meaning. 

Esperanto is the Star Trek of interlangs -- it's been there so long that no one can admit to thinking that there are better things out there, so other good ideas never get tried.  I don't think it's aweful, but I do think that it's outdated by its eurocentricity.

>>18
I wasn't disputing that. I was just saying the conlang with the most speakers is like a retard that only beats other retards. You can be the richest man in some somalian village with two goats. I wouldn't say that'd stop something better from coming along.