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日本語の質問

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-13 12:22

Alright, so here's the question..I've seen alot of grammar points that use "pre-masu" or conjunctive form (ie 食べますーー>食べ), and I'm wondering what this form is used for in and of itself. Let me rephrase that..

This form is used as a -part- of alot of conjugations, but I'm wondering if just a conjunctive form verb by itself makes any sense, cause I've seen some conversations that make me think it does, but I don't know how I'd properly use such a form.

Is it used for nominalization? (ie, making verbs into nouns, like in ”食べること” or ”食べるの”). Maybe only the class 1 verbs use conjunctive form for this.

(If "class 1" is not a widely understood term..I'm not sure if it is or not..basically, verbs that end in something other than る in plain form, or that have a small っ when they do, excluding する and 来る, which are irregulars.)

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-13 19:44

The conjunctive form is used by itself as a linking verb in very formal text (except for 来る). Examples:
学校に行き、パンを食べ、家に帰り、寝ました。
Of course, in normal speech it would be
学校に行って、パンを食べて、家に帰って、寝ました。

Also, it is used as a stem for the たり form:
昨日、ピザを作ったり、日本語を勉強したりした。
Yesterday, I made pizza, studied Japanese, and stuff like that.

There are other forms too, but those are two examples. If you want to get really technical, the conjunctive form is what you attach many verb endings to. For example, 食べる's premasu is 食べ, to which you add ます to get 食べます.

Then there are the classical Japanese forms, too, but I can't recall many of those off hand (I don't speak Classical Japanese on a regular basis ;))

Also, you defined "class 1" incorrectly. The class is not defined as those ending in something other than る. For example, 帰る ends in る, but it is class 1, being that it's conjugation is 帰らない、帰った、帰りました etc. Class 1 is better defined as the class of verbs that end in anything other than える or いる AND verbs ending in いる or える whose conjuctive form is not the verb minus the る, and excluding する、来る.

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-14 6:33

muy divertidos los signitos pero no entendi nada de nada :S prefiero ir a jugar a algo

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-15 2:50 (sage)

>>3
de la fuck you

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-18 3:40

>>3
jodete, pendejo
ケツをキスしろ!

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-18 9:11

son unos otakus virgines y fanaticos de X-Japan no merecen estar en el spico

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-18 20:41

>>6 estar en el spico
You're a spic?

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-18 20:44

>>5
lol wut

Name: Anonymous 2006-11-20 22:36

>>8
it says "fuck yourself, dumbass, kiss my ass"

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