I know this is one of the world's most difficult languages (I mean, just look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_grammar), but are there any noticably worse? Please educate me.
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Anonymous2006-02-20 17:18 (sage)
perkele
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Anonymous2006-02-20 17:26
english you noob
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Anonymous2006-02-20 17:36
Eihän sun kannattais edes yrittää oppia tätä kieltä. Hus hus!
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Anonymous2006-02-20 18:01
Perkele... Haha
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Anonymous2006-02-20 18:04
How the hell is one language harder than another? Hard for an English speaker to learn as a second language, maybe, but so is any other non-indo-european language.
That's how it's harder, yes. I suppose I'm being indo-european-centric, but Chinese is more difficult to grasp than Dutch, for instance. But just look at all those tenses!
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Anonymous2006-02-20 18:09
I've been learning finnish for 21 years because half my family is from Finland. Take it from me, it's a royal bitch!
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Anonymous2006-02-20 18:23
>>7
Because Dutch and English are both indo-european languages, while Chinese isn't?
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Yet kids in Finland manage to learn it just as fast as any other language.
Because Dutch and English are both indo-european languages, while Chinese isn't?
Japanese then. Or Swahili. It's just an example OK
Yet kids in Finland manage to learn it just as fast as any other language.
Kids learn in absolute saturation and don't learn the same way anyway; this is proven by how they can easily learn two "first" languages at once (but get annoyed if the same people switch between them a lot) and learn every language's grammar features in the same way. I don't have the source for this, though.
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Anonymous2006-02-20 18:42
>>10
Err, the point is that for a speaker of an indo-european language (english), learning another indo-european language (dutch) is easier than learning a language that isn't related at all (chinese, finnish, japanese...) Yes, I know I'm simplifying things somewhat.
Of course kids learn in different way. The point I was making is that finnish as a primary language is not any harder than some other language, and I've yet to see any evidence of it being exceptionally hard as a second language.
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It's odd how Finns always start cussing when writing in Finnish on English boards.
Ei, se ei tee vaikutusta.
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Akselii!!2006-02-21 20:42
hei vaan!
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Anonymous2006-02-22 5:55
Finnish is not that hard. Our exchange student from Japan learned to speak Finnish fluently in one year because the pronunciation of Finnish is almost identical to Japanese.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 15:40
Onko ketään Valkeakoskelta?
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Anonymous2006-02-22 15:51
>>13
It's because everyone in the world knows a couple Finnish curses. And they sure are powerful.
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Anonymous2006-02-22 17:14
Finland isn't socialist.
North Korea, Vietnam, Cuba and other nations free from us evil westerners and our imperialist ideals of not executing people who disagree with you, are.
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Anonymous2006-02-25 12:42
>>16
How would learning the pronunciations help one learn Finnish? The hardest part t'me'd be the grammar and whatnot.
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Anonymous2006-02-28 11:29
Oh come on. Finnish is an absolute snap to learn compared to something like Russian. There's a steep as all fuck learning curve at the beginning (and the occasional accidentally pornographic mistake), but after that it's all just vocabulary, compound words and figures of speech. Past the steep bit it's nothing that you aren't learning in your native language all the time.
That is of course if you really want to learn a language of slightly more than 5 million people. It's like slightly less useful than Swedish. Probably helps you get laid if you have an exceptional preference for finnish chicks, and a tolerance for 5 months of cold and dark a year though.
And the curses sound far manlier than anything you'd find in Swedish. If you're into that sort of thing.
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Anonymous2006-03-06 3:13
Finland is the land of the future, today!
And Finnish and Japanese are related. Via Turkey.
Plus Finland has Lapland.
Lapland - The Home of Lapdancing
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Anonymous2006-03-23 11:16
>>20
Actually pronaunciation can help learn a language, since you will be able to grasp what other people talk much faster and connect it to what you've already learned. So, the effect of everyone talking around is multiplied by a lot.
Though (while I'm not really sure about this at all), I think Finnish and Japanese languages have more similarities than that, making learning the language even easier.
Finnish is pretty useless language in overal, especially compared to how hard it is to learn, but if you're interested, then why not? You can easily impress Finnish people by talking their language, and the girls like foreigners a lot (though, that doesn't require to learn Finnish, since most can speak English in Finland anyway).
I think Finnish usually considered to be one of the hardest languages because it belongs into a language family that is not very much spread. So, it's quite unlike most languages spoken in the world.
Take it from me, Finland is a shitty place to live. I'm Finnish, yet I'd like to live somewhere else. There's absolutely nothing to do in here than get wasted at Friday night. And Saturday too, since you don't have a thing to do then either.
Sure, the language is hard and somewhat nice to know, but it's pretty much useless. We have to learn two foreign languages: Swedish, which is compulsory, and a choice from English, German or French. In some places, you can take Japanese courses, but those are in some rich ass schools that only IT millionares can send their kids.
No, we have no 6-month nights. That's Iceland.
Once I graduate, I'm going to move out from Finland, after I have either A: enough money or B: I get a job elsewhere.
1. Wiggers
2. subhumans that actually pay real money to send sms to some shitty tv-chat.
3. drooling idiots that watch reality tv-shows.
4. The whole bunch of people who make the abomination known as Salatut Elämät, a finnish brain-damage-inducing tv-series, all of them all the way from director to the skinny acne-faced guy who brings people coffee.
5. The sad excuses of human life who watch the aforementioned tv-series.
Salkkarien käyttätymismallit on just jees, etenkin kun näkee teinien soveltavan niitä käytännössä! Ai että ku kaipaan yläasteaikoja :O
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Anonymous2006-04-20 2:27
Finnish language might be easy to learn but it's bloody hard to master. Only good thing in Finnish is that it's good for cursin, compare "perkele" and "damn".
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Anonymous2006-04-20 2:35
>>38
Perkele is god of curses, nothing sounds better than it.
>>47
I hate to a be a jerk, but I think that has as much to do with Finland's relative obscurity on the world stage as it does with the admitted complexity of the language itself.
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maikki2007-10-16 10:34
tässä teille suomea apinat! haistakaa vittu
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Anonymous2007-10-16 11:44
missä on mun finnchani?
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Anonymous2007-10-23 3:08
PERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRKELE
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Anonymous2008-03-12 7:47
vitun ruma neekeri
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Anonymous2008-03-13 2:44
ITT Finnish people proving their stupidity.
I'd advise you to stop making Finnish threads here as it will only attract more idiots like these people.