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Since when is saging considered flooding?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-22 14:32

The spammers and trolls are taking over /s/ as of late and I can't sage more than once every 5 minutes.  What the fuck?  The text body is different, so why is it being detected as a flood?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-22 14:39

I can't post there either.  It always says "flood detected."  Are any of the cgi.4chan boards doing this to anyone else?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-22 14:50

>>1
It doesn't have anything to do with the email field, sagefag.  I'm getting this shit too.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-23 15:18

That's fucking stupid, sage is not even shitposting. We fucking use sage to keep our threads off the front page so we can have good threads just like 2ch, and moot is being a fucking faggot.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-23 19:19

Fuckdamn, why the hell did moot do that, that's fucking stupid.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-23 19:23

fuckdamn, how am I supposed to sage now.
Moot, what have you done ?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-24 16:50

There's a lot of linked malicious scripts too.  Granted, most people are smart enough not to click them, but it doesn't change the fact that at any given moment 20 threads in /s/ are either spam, trolling, malicious script links and/or all the above.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-24 17:16

Have any of you been to fucking /b/ lately? They're spreading their AIDS to /s/, obviously.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-25 1:32

>>8

Obviously the administration here needs to get with the program.  They've created this monster, now they need to reign it in.  Appoint some people who will actually monitor the boards.  I'm sure that the current /s/ janitors have been shanghaied somewhere by the raiding party.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-26 1:30

>>9

Obviously the administration here needs to get with the program.  They've created this monster, now they need to reign it in.

I agree. 4chan is massive however and it did get rather popular pretty quickly.

Appoint some people who will actually monitor the boards.

Easier said than done. It's hard as tits to find a good Janitor, much less a Moderator.

I'm sure that the current /s/ janitors have been shanghaied somewhere by the raiding party.

Huh?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-26 2:49

>>10

I don't know how to use that fancy BBS quote thing that you used, so here they are by point:

1. I have nothing to add.
2. How about a "5-10 reports, post deleted" system or something like vote banning?  Granted some is bound to figure out an exploit.
3. Figure of speech.  The janitors probably don't give a shit right now because they can't keep up with the shit being posted, so they sit back and watch/do nothing.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-26 4:37

>>11

I don't know how to use that fancy BBS quote thing that you used

Type ">" (without quotation marks) and press space on your keyboard THEN type what you're going to quote. The space is very important.

2. How about a "5-10 reports, post deleted" system or something like vote banning?

It's been suggested many times before, I don't think it would go over well. Would become prone to massive abuse, proxies, etc. You will be surprised to find out just how far someone is willing to go just to be a dick over the Internet.

3. Figure of speech.  The janitors probably don't give a shit right now because they can't keep up with the shit being posted, so they sit back and watch/do nothing.

You my friend, speak the utmost truth. Reporting doesn't do crap, and if I'm going to go and try to get a mod or janitor to delete/ban someone, I have to go on IRC and do it. EVEN on IRC, they will ignore most requests to delete/ban someone or someone's offending thread/post. The only thing that seems to be effectively moderated any more is that IRC channel itself, go figure.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-26 14:21

The new limits:

text only post: 1/2 a minute
image post: 1 minute
thread post: 5 minutes
sage post: 10 minutes

The trolls are loving it/don't care.  They set the bot and walk away.  I want to choke someone over this bullshit.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-27 14:43

>sage post: 10 minutes

The sagers come out the worst in this. Sage didn't even do anything (of value) before. Why doesn't Moot just get rid of sage, because it's been virtually fucking useless for two years now.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-27 18:30

>>14
No, you're just clueless.

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-27 21:37

>>1
Sagebombing is against the rules, moron.

>>13
On what board?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-28 8:32

>>16
You don't even fucking know what sagebombing is, do you?

Name: Anonymous 2009-01-28 16:50

>>17
>16 has no clue.

The limits have been imposed across all of the boards to my knowledge.  Go try it out if you don't believe me.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-03 16:28

>>16
Sagebombing involves repeatedly saging a single thread, shitface.  I only saged when I posted once in the threads warning potential idiots that the masked URLs were trouble.  The less zombies on the web, the better.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-03 18:08

>>19
http://www.4chan.org/faq#sage

What is "sage"?

    > Entering "sage" (by itself) into the [E-mail] field while replying will cause the thread not to bump to the top of the page, while still counting against its reply count. Threads that reach their reply limit can no longer be bumped, causing them to sink to the back pages and be pruned more quickly. Abusing the sage function by "sage-bombing" is frowned upon and may result in a ban.

Abusing the sage function by "sage-bombing" is frowned upon and may result in a ban.

is frowned upon

may result in a ban.

Although technically not against the rules, (this is from the FAQ page) you can get banned for it.

It's more difficult to sage-bomb nowadays with the new flood detection system on 4chan anyway, so whatever.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-05 13:38

>>20
NOBODY IN THIS THREAD IS A SAGEBOMBER, THEY HAVE NOT ADMITTED TO BEING ONE AND THEY HAVE NOT HAD ANY INTENTION TO BE ONE

SAGEBOMBING =/= REGULAR SAGEING

CHRIST

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-05 17:05

>>20

Jesus christ on a cracker, you're a fucking moron.  Read, comprehend, post.  In that order or get the fuck off of my internets.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-05 17:14

>>21

I merely said that sage-bombing is frowned upon and may result in a ban, which is straight off of the FAQ. I never once accused you or anyone else of being a sage-bomber in this thread.

SAGEBOMBING =/= REGULAR SAGEING

Yes I'm aware of the difference between normal sageing and sage-bombing.

Like I said in >>20 :

It's more difficult to sage-bomb nowadays with the new flood detection system on 4chan anyway, so whatever.

Obviously team 4chan has implemented the new flood detection system to discourage users from sageing threads more than once. Sage was originally a feature carried over all the way from 2channel, then to Futaba Channel (www.2chan.net) and finally to 4chan, where it was meant to just post a comment without bumping the thread you're posting in to the top of the page, that's it.

But it has been used as a sign of disapproval of the content being posted in a individual thread, rather than just people posting to a thread that you just simply don't feel needs to be bumped. This was happening way too much all over 4chan, so now everyone who uses "sage" to not bump a thread suffers. You have the aforementioned "sage-bombers" to thank for that.

I don't particularly like it much myself, as I would tell people this is a dumb silly thread and use the sage function to post my comment without bumping it. Yes it sucks, to say the least, that everyone must suffer for the abusive actions of a vocal minority. But instead of complaining about it, go on 4chan's IRC channel, petition the mods to either change it back or at least be less restrictive on people who use sage only one or twice in a thread, e-mail moot, etc. He has said in the past that e-mailing him is better than complaining on the image/text boards and I'm sure that unwritten rule still stands today.

TL;DR: Either deal with it or take it up with moot or the mods; you have the idiots to thank for the new imposed restrictions.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-05 17:16

>>22
LOL, I apologize for my dumb post. Please read >>23 instead.

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-06 19:13

>>23

Of course the new limits would make sagebombing difficult, but sagebombing has absolutely no relevance to this topic.  The matter at hand is that the new limits make doing ANYTHING on 4chan more difficult.  Do you understand now?

Name: Anonymous 2009-02-06 21:25

The sage limit appears to have been drastically cut. Just did a quick test on an .orz board, I was able to sage once every minute.

I'm frightened I may get banned or something. I dunno why but the sudden unannounced removal of the limit seems very suspicious to me.

Name: Newfag 2010-06-30 3:50

lul

Name: Anonymous 2010-07-09 11:39

>>27
Back to /b/, please

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