Self Hatred

Although it tries to hate others, ultimately /b/ always returns to hating itself.

Wasn't this way always though.

/b/ is full of hatred of general of everyone. The self-hating nerd culture is ingrained into the internet. Look at how Lowtax treats his revenue-sources at SA.

Hatred is caused by emptiness, frustration and insecurity. Basically it's not possible to harbor exaggerated feelings of hate without hating some part of yourself, or the hate wouldn't exist in the first place. Therefore, /b/ can only hate itself.

a place like /b/ will always turn in on itself, mainly for the reasons poster #4 said.

That said, and this is important. /b/ needs strong moderation at the moment. Two boards have been taken down by the authorities in the past few days, one for being a sick CP board, the other for allowing CP to be posted and the mods weren't looking after the place. The mods need to be on their guard or 4chan will be biting the bullet too.

>>5
I agree with you, but I also believe that /b/'s hatred of pedophilia is much deeper than a sense of self-preservation. Young self-hating westerners hate two things very strongly: pedophilia and racism. While there's legitimate reasons to be opposed to these things, /b/tards have an irrational, visceral hatred that goes far beyond reason.

As #4 said, these are exaggerated feelings. Perhaps these two things are selected because they are the easiest targets (as regarded by our culture), and the person's subconscious is desperate to find something they can regard as lower than themselves (not that they actually are low, but that their self image sees themselves as being so).

This defense mechanism falters, though, and /b/tards will of course turn on themselves. Since it's an anonymous board, it's easy for the mind to believe that it is attacking someone else when on a different level the person is actually attacking himself (or perhaps the other way around in some instances).

Wow.I too want what you guys are smoking.

>>7
I can see the fnords already.

>>5
But unlike those other two boards, 4chan has moderators who constantly browse it. Besides, it's not illegal from the website's standpoint to have someone post illegal content to it - it only becomes illegal when such illegal things are not promptly removed.

>>6
As far as I've seen, /b/ doesn't seem to hate paedophiles. In-fact, /b/ seems to be made up of between 5% to 10% paedophiles anyway.

5 to 10?! more like 50-100%

>>9
Your first point is invalid. Since 4chan is based in the US, it is subject to US laws. There is a such thing as illegal content whether posted or not. It is illegal to possess cp in any form, digital or otherwise. Moderators want to remove cp from their servers as they do not want to be responsible for the consequences for breaking laws.

What are you all talking about? /b/ is not about hate... I visit that board regularly and I don't hate anyone. I think you have misunderstood something.

>>5
>>9
What boards were those?

>>9
>>10
I don't think there are many ACTUAL pædophiles on /b/.  There are a fair number of hebephiles and lolicons, but that isn't the same thing.  /b/ isn't really a good place to find the content real pædophiles desire - it gets deleted too quickly.

>>11
I think what >>9 meant is that under U.S. law, and the laws of most other Western countries AFAIK, if you make a good-faith effort to destroy the offending material which has come into your possession (in the case of computer files, deleting it is considered as destroying it), you are not guilty of possession.

>>13
PROTIP: The proper 19th century way of writing it is 'phædophiles' - comes from latin you see. still applaud the extended ASCII.

You are obviously new here. Yes, there are a lot of actual, real and true pedophiles on /b/. Lolicon is just the japanese way of saying pedophile. No they don't come there for Hardcore CP, just flame with it. It being accessible and all.

>>14
and otaku is just the japanese way of saying retard
your point?

>>14
PROTIP: It's Greek, not Latin.  Go fuck yourself with your "phædo-," I'm not that stupid.

I've been here since before "Donate or Die 2005," so fuck off.  There really are NOT that many real pædos on /b/.  Lolicon in short for "Lolita complex," which is essentially hebephilia, not pædophilia (even if some Japanese use it incorrectly, just as some Americans use "pædophile" incorrectly).  The majority of people fapping to loli hentai don't even find REAL kids sexually attractive (I know this as a veteran of /l/).

The people posting hardcore CP are mostly NOT pædos, but bored /b/tards, with dynamic IP, trolling for lulz.

>>16
Your right about the greek shit, it's still phædophilia(παιδοφιλία) - that is the proper way to latinize your π proletariat scum.

Ephebophilia relates to teens, if you had ever seen a lolicon manga you know that is not the case - flat chest! Furthermore you are delusional. You are probably one of those people that fap to that stuff, but "it is alright, you are not a pedophile" since you would never molest a real child... like those hypocritical catholic priests(it's only a little touch, what can it hurt right). Yes, /b/ is full of pedophiles, though most of them - like you - live in denial in their mother's basement. Die a virgin.

IF YOU FAP TO LOLICON, YOU ARE A PEDOPHILE, DIPSHIT

>>13
I don't think there are many ACTUAL pædophiles on /b/.  There are a fair number of hebephiles and lolicons, but that isn't the same thing.
Yes it is, dipshit.

>>17
PROTIP: if it were "ph" the Greek would be φ (phi), not π (pi), fuckwit.

>>17
>>18
No, ephebephilia/hebephilia relate to PUBESCENTS, which is from about 9 up.  Ask a psychologist some time: they will tell you that hebephilia is normal.  Yeah, some lolicon manga depicts children younger than that, but by no means all.  There is a range, and if you'd spent time on /l/, you'd know that not everyone agreed about the flat chest thing, anyway.  Back in the day, characters like Komgui (who was supposed to be 17, IIRC) had to be posted on /l/ because /e/ wouldn't allow them (underage).  Besides, if you'd actually READ what I said, you'd know I didn't say they "would never molest a real child," I said is that they WERE NOT EVEN ATTRACTED TO REAL CHILDREN.

Lot's of people fap to things in manga that don't attract them in real life: I know people who fap to guro, despite being scared shitless by real blood; and I have really enjoyed a fair amount of huge-titted manga girls, despite the fact that I like small-to-medium tits in real life.

>>19
Oh, is that what it says on wikipedia, you can't just translate the letters without knowing the pronounciation... you are obviously, as always, wrong.

And in Lolita, Humbert classifies nymphets(the ones he likes) as earlier than schoolgirls and teens, Dolores or "Lolita" grows during the story, but when Humbert first fucks the girl she is nine. There is nothing borderline about that. But it's not like the Japanese who invented the word had ever read the book.

And everybody knows it's natural - so is rape - that doesn't make it any more legal or moral according to the western standard. You are what is called a closet pedophile. You find elaborate ways of telling us how you are not one, but according to your definition you can't even call Humbert Humbert a pedophile. If you aren't attracted to real children then why are you attracted to images of them instead of adults? The way lolis are drawn resembles very closely the anatomy of a real girl aged 6-14. Why?

Just the fact that you are not into Toddlers doesn't mean that you are any less pedo. Actually, I'm quite sure that even after you have raped your daughter or niece, you still won't consider yourself a pedophile, not unlike Humbert Humbert. Just so you know, you are a pedophile and you should kill yourself.

>>19
No, ephebephilia/hebephilia relate to PUBESCENTS, which is from about 9 up. Ask a psychologist
Nobody gives a fuck about such technicalities. Ask anybody if a 30 year old who fucks 16 year old girls is a pedo. That answer is the one that counts.

LMFAO... semantics?! You're all arguing over fucking semantics?!?! Get a fucking clue...

>>20
I've been studying Latin and Greek since middle school (over a decade ago).  I DON'T HAVE TO LOOK IT UP in Wikipedia (and if I did have to look anything up, I've got a perfectly good set of dictionaries right by my desk, anyhow).

Humbert doesn't even MEET Dolores until she's 12, so I'm calling bullshit: it's now THOROUGHLY clear you don't know you are making up "facts."  Nabokov's definition of "nymphet" was 9-14. 

Humbert Humbert (or Vladimir Nabokov for that matter) is NOT a pædophile by the definition of ANY mainstream psychologist.  I'm using the same definition.  Even YOU admit that a lot of lolicon manga depicts girls as old as middle school age, which is CLEARLY hebephile material.  Also, I didn't say I WASN'T attracted to adults as well, I am, as are most other lolicons.

It's clear from your failed (and asinine) use of falsified facts to support your case, that you are (as I suspected from the start) just trying to troll, anyhow.  Let me give you some advice, as YOU are obviously new here: if you're going to troll on 4chan, do a better job than that - people here know their shit, so don't just make up "facts" that they are likely to recognize as false; until then, gb2Newgrounds.  I'm done feeding you.

>>21
I don't give a fuck about what Joe Bob in Alabama thinks.  The average American is a fucking moron (and, as George Carlin put it, "half of them are stupider than that!").  What matters is the legal definition and the medical one.  There IS no legal definition of pædophilia, only "child molestation" and "statutory rape" (in my state, and more than half of the U.S., by the way, what you describe is neither - 16 year-olds are legal adults for the purposes of sex).  The MEDICAL definition of pædophilia is someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescents.  Any psychologist can tell you that hebephilia is normal.  If you live somewhere where 16 year-olds are NOT legal, I pity you.

>>23
Self-control motherfucker, do you use it?

>>23
I'm sorry, I was wrong and you were right: Lolita was 12 and it is 'pædophilia', not 'paedophilia' or 'phædophilia'.

I think I better go cry in some corner somewhere.

You are clearly an EXPERT PEDOPHILE.

>>23
Gee sorry for killing your mom >>23 but you see, it's natural. Murder is a way of life and she just so happened to be in the right place at the wrong time...