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Name: Anonymous 2013-04-05 18:56

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Name: Anonymous 2013-04-05 20:15

Answers:
-What is so hard to understand about "INFINITE"? Infinite is infinite. There are infinite number of similar worlds, different worlds, world's where humanity doesn't exist, worlds where Earth doesn't exist, etc. As I said, infinite is infinite.

-The coin was a thematic element, pointing out that no matter what Booker does, things always ed up the same way. There are heads and tails, but he cannot see the tails until he gets rid of the problem at its "root". It also implies that this scenario has played out many-many times from the point of view of the Luteces, as evidenced by the checkboard on Robert on his first "real" appearance in the game.

-He didn't handle it at all. That was the whole point, that he suffered severe trauma and fabricated new memories for himself to put the ones he gained through "transit" into context, often at the cost of his real memories.

-Whether Robert is from Booker's universe is not clear. I would say it's not probable, as the first usage of Lutece's machine was to get her "brother", and the second was to get Anna, so it is quite probable that they are from different worlds. As for the flux, it's because of Anna. When she got her pinky cut off by the portal, she went on existing in two different universe, which is the reason for her powers and why there are tears in Columbia: her existence weakened the boundaries between universes.

-Fink's musical tear was just an easter egg, don't think too deeply about it.

-There is no "Columbia". The name Columbia refers to the female personification of the United States used in various forms of patriotic symbolism in the 19th century, it is purely symbolical and part of the nationalistic and religious propaganda.

-The whole quantum-power thing is a non-question. No he doesn't, and it was never implied. Also, they don't really "pass through" into other words, instead Elizabeth mashes the two worlds together, and that's why people who are dead in one universe but alive in the other freak out, as they become paradoxes. Booker, on the other hand, doesn't, as his other version (Comstock) is always alive, and he survives THAT becasue his fabricated memories make him unable to recognize "himself", so he doesn't see the paradox.

-Not a real question, next.

-Actually, yes, he died there. Booker presuambly dies many, MANY times throughout the game. However, when that happens, the Luteces just take him to another universe and he continues on without realizing it. You could argue that even Elizabeth is doing the same. Whenever he goes through the "door", it means that he died in THAT universe, but then he goes on in another universe where he DOESN'T die, and so the player only perceives the succession of universes where he did survive every ordeal. It's a bit of a meta-concept.

-No, because "our" Elizabeth ceased to exist as well. Elizabeth only exists if there is Comstock. No Comstock means he didn't kidnap her, she didn't grow up in Columbia and never got her fascination with Paris or her locpicking talent. There is no Elizabeth, only Anna...
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Unless of course there is going to be a DLC, but I doubt it.

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-awesome-flaws-in-new-bioshock-game_p2/#ixzz2PdaiEvI5

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-05 20:15

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Name: Anonymous 2013-04-05 21:22

1)How many universes? This one is actually easy as other people have said before, its actually in the game name: infinite. The multiverse theory (a science term and the general premise behind the tv series Sliders) actually explains this game and gives the premise to a lot of tv series that like to play with the main characters decisions in a 'what if' sense (see futurama, family guy, scrubs, etc). Simply put: Think of everything that happened in your life till now... that time you twisted your ankle and couldnt play basketball for a week, the time you said yes to Sammie to go on that date, and that time you blew your teacher to get an A in social studies.All these things made you right now reading this comment (Yay..?) Now for everything that happened in your life there is another universe created that the exact opposite happened. In one universe you did everything except blow ur social studies teacher b/c seriously, who the f**ck uses social studies?
 Another universe u did everything but bust ur ankle, in another u did the opposite of everything above... basically if you look at one life by itself you already have almost an infinite number of ways their lives could of turned out... then you add everyone in the world all having the same random choices messed with and the multiverse becomes endless. (think about that next time your trying to decide to supersize ur fries in the drive-thru) In game example: Every time you die you have to reopen the door from ur crappy apartment to get back to where u were playing. This is to represent you creating ANOTHER dimension where u didn't die (and somehow lost 30 coins that Anna/Elizabeth sumhow finds piled in a corner to throw at u when u least suspect it).
2)What was up with the coins? This one also has to do with multiverse theory (please read a book) it states that with the infinite number of multiple universes out there not only would peoples decisions create dimensions but physics and laws would also create dimensions. He believed that even random circumstances in a universe could no longer be possible "...in one universe the coin would always land on heads..." I believe this was a hint to the player (one of those 'ahhh' moments if u played through a second time) about the multiverse theory. It would also explain how even though the twins warn him about things through out the beginning, before you leap into a tear, all aren't random. You chose heads/tails, it always comes up heads. Your told not to pick 77, you can only chose 77, even refusing to pick a number gets you 77. Your told not to gain attention from Cornstock, within 10 mins (no matter your choice) the people grab ur hand and report you to
 Cornstock. Until you leave that dimension, nothing is held to chance (Seriously play through again and notice all the things you can't change until u jump into a tear).
3)Time-Binkys? Actually when I was playing through I brought up the same question to my mate (who then pointed out that I questioned that and not the fact that the city is floating like 10k above the earth with no physical repercussions on the people or hummingbird population... i then promptly went back to being the Booker anti-christ and continued to ponder silently to myself) I believe that the reason behind this would be that Anna didn't just open tears and invite everyone within earshot to hop thru, she opened tears and brought everyone with her (like Linus and his security blanket). My thought is that Booker was the only one who willingly stepping through, everyone else was forced through into a 'new world' and were just trying to get a handle on their new circumstances and they're blinking confusingly b/c she's forcing new and old memories down their throats. Supporting example would be the review of the ending when the twins comment about how he
 created new memories to support his new situation. 'get the girl, clear the debt'
4)Are Booker and Leutece from the same world? Simply put yes. Search for more tape diaries. They explain that the twins both figured out multidimensional travel at/near the same time. They wanted to hang out with each other b/c...idk, she was tired of talking to idiots all day, so they decided to sinc up in the kooler dimension. Cornstock still wanted a daughter, which is the real reason female 'twin' was trying dimensional travel to begin with and since he was a p***k he probably wasnt going to let her 'twin' come over unless they finished the project.
4)Did anyone else get inside Fink's Melodies? It was an Easter Egg shout out to pull the player in deeper. Basically implying that even your universe is part of the games reality... Which technically means you killed everyone by finishing the game (thanks d*ck)
5)Angel Columbia? That's end Elizabeth/Anna the one blowing up the world. More tape diaries slash reading reveal it. In that version Booker didn't save her so she didnt care and helped Cornstock make her more powerful until she broke the statue holding back her powers then she brought Booker to her and gave him the means for her to save herself since he was taking his sweet time to getting around to it. Hence she was innocent (LAMB) and believed could be saved in the beginning, she tries to stop herself from having hope in a man and instead have hope in herself and save the earth (like an ANGEL from god) but then finds out thats a sucky plan and kinda evil when she breaks the statue holding her back, and go gets Booker... which caused him not to save her...which made her a monster to begin with... Yay circles!
6)Does Booker have Quantum Powers? No, also on video diaries and readings. Just some dude jumping dimensions with his daughter. In one of the diaries it says that the reason the twins and Anna/Elizabeth have powers is because they were exposed to the initial experiments so drastically that they kept jumping from dimension to dimension that they gained powers. Anna even says that she remembered as a child running into the tears then later you hear her say that her 'bird friend' was always on the other side of the tears to yank her @ss back to the tower, the twins also have similar experiences minus the bird. So since Anna and the twins are all screwy it is believed tht the initial experiments actually created what they are now and believed that people would become screwed up with prolonged exposure. Example proof in game: Everything is quarantined off and no one can interact with her or in the end the twins. The creepy people at the end who were
 constantly shifting after being shown multiple versions of themselves. Booker didn't have powers...yet, but if he had continued to jump with Anna/Elizabeth... maybe. That might have been what the nosebleeds were, symptoms of him gaining multidimensional travel.
7)Booker Baptism? If you pay attention to the end you notice around her neck Anna/Elizabeth is wearing a necklace opposite of what you chose for her to wear for the 20 or so hours of game play. She isn't the chick you've been shooting around town with, she's the angry b*tch you didnt save b/c you had better sh*t to do ...like die.
If you had died Cornstock would have eventually won and dragged her @ss back (to be the 'Evil Angel of blowing sh*t up'') Then she would have no hope and blames you and Cornstock b/c she blames everything on her 2 dads like she knows Freud personally.
So to stop the decision that would create Cornstock, Booker, twins, hundreds/millions of deaths or any other multiple of their universe the opposite Anna/Elizabeth decides to cut it out at the source and drown u (b/c nothing says freedom like drowning your father).

But then that brings up to the absolute ending when he hears a child's cries and runs through the door. Some people say it was a paradox, you can't kill your grandfather before your father's born, everything will just reset for eternity (or infinity?). Other's say that all she did was murder Cornstock so only Booker is alive. Anytime he went through with the baptism they murdered him, cancelling his and their existence, stopping the circle. The last theory, my theory, is that with infinite possibilities there should be one circumstance where Booker said 'f*ck off' to giving Cornstock his child. If that's so he would be part of a different loop and wouldn't be destroyed by the drowning. He never gave up his child to be evil, he never ran into a debt with Cornstock, or just plain refused to pay Cornstock with child points, he can't be part of an infinite loop if there was no lighthouse, man, or woman in need of being saved. The key factors she repeats 3
 times in the last 20 mins as constants to continue the infinite loop. They aren't present if he says 'no' instead of 'yes'.
That's my take, hope it helped, Awesome game!!

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-07 18:59

bumping

Name: Anonymous 2013-04-10 17:05

With a plot this broken, why would anyone even bother giving spoilers? I hope no one tries to explain Inception next.

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