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SONY hinting PS4 in development

Name: lunic 2005-11-16 11:58

http://playstation3.joystiq.com/entry/1234000947068088/
http://games.kikizo.com/news/200511/074.asp

reply#5 on joystiq is right, if 360 start spilling out the next-gen FF's, who'd buy a PS3 just for MGS series, not to mention how Armored Core looked better on 360 than PS3 (http://playstation3.joystiq.com/entry/1234000467068016/)

why talk about PS4 at all, is SONY already admitting PS3 being inferior to X360.  yes, i know PS3 is much stronger than X360 by the numbers, but the AC comparison article suggets that few developers have the guts to turn PS3's potential into reality.

Even so, if you consider two consoles having same potential, with one being half ass easier to program on, which would you choose as a progammer.

Now i'm freaki'n confused, should i get X360 now?  PS3 later?  or hey PS4 just a little more later, wtf

Name: Helios 2005-11-17 1:55

What a stupid concept. Kutaragi was just saying what's going to happen: The PS3 is going to get outdated, the market is goign to get stale, and they're going to create a PS4. "Within the Decade" isnt such a hard assumption considering that consoles stereotypically live 4-5 years, and it's 2005.

Now, I don't think the PS3 is inferior to the XBOX 360. Constantly, developers are going to complain about development environments. I mean, they're GOING to because they want everything handed to them on a silver platter. But, from what I've seen and played of the 360, I think the PS3 could have the 360 beaten if on nothing but sheer game quality.

To put my point simply, the 360 sucks. And it will probably continue to do so. About 75% of all the games for 360 launch are just re-made lower gen games, and even the newest games arent exactly revolutionary. The games are horribly antialiased, and, as I put it to a friend of mine, "It's the XBOX with bump mapping".

Now, this is not to say that the PS3 is immune from sucking or the 360 is dead. A 180 degree turn around in the market could very well happen. And, as it stands, the PS3 and Revolution are in a poor situation.

However, the gross assumption that the 360 will trump the PS3 because of development environment is purely bullshit. First of all, the development kit isn't even completely out yet. Yes, some developers have their hands on it, but there may very well be a redesign of it, considering they don't even have a solid controller structure down.

Secondly, it's pretty obvious that developers will learn to use it. I mean, let's face it- if there are even a small handful of developers working on the PS3, then it will have a life regardless of how hard it is. This "Open Internet" system or whatever is a direct signal from Sony that they plan to make it available to the common programmer, so there may be a turn-around.

But then again, these kinds of threads are stupid. Wait till they're all out for like a year.

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