Which Zelda game comes before the other? Is there a different Link in each Zelda game?
Hey, here's my interpretation. Keep in mind that the game creators are human and make mistakes too just like everybody else, so this probably isn't something exact and nailed down in stone. I get the lingering feeling that they are making this up as they go, or are not particularily careful, as the landmarks in Hyrule like the Lost Woods, Spectacle Rock, Death Mountain seem to change with everygame as if just to be included in the game not to give true physical landmarks. Having played all but the 4 swords games and read their manuals I sometimes hear that the official timeline contradicts what was written/packaged with the game, so here I write how I see the chronology.
Come... dork with me and let's see if we can figure this out.
Zelda 1 (NES): There are only two triforces known at the time, even though they call them TRIforces, Wisdom & Power and Zelda herself splits Wisom into 8 to hide them from Ganon but Link (of Catalia?) puts em together again and KILLS Ganon with Silver Arrow. First game in the series, early for videogames and long before the time of 'when will there be a sequel'-mentality that's prevalent in today's industry, no sequel planned therefore no need to Ganon him alive or whatever, he is DEAD. Can't remember where I heard this Link was from Catalia(sp?) wherever that is, but might as well bring it to the table so we have something to call this guy.
Zelda 2 (NES) the Adventure of Link: Same Link as Zelda 1, now he's older at 16. Ganon's not the end boss, Link's Shadow is, the only time you see Ganon is in the Game Over screen because Ganon's minions use your dead body/blood to resurrect Ganon because he is DEAD.. not in some Golden Land/Sacred Realm/other dimension, his ashes are in the 'real' world somewhere. Impa looks like an old hag, the mark of the Triforce appears on Link's hand WITHOUT a triforce in possesion, Impa puts his hand on a magic door to open it. Zelda's under a sleeping spell, Link's gotta go on a quest to put 6 sacred jewels in 6 statues in 6 temples to open a barrier to the palace where the newfound triforce of courage is kept. Can't remember the end but Zelda's supposed to wake up, things are happy and since Ganon is DEAD I place this chronologically at the end. Ganon is DEAD and that's the reason for me.. of course Nintendo could pull some BS out of their ass 12 years after they wrote he died, like Ganon can't die unless he's got the master sword stuck in his head or he resurrects every 100 years like Castlevania's Dracula but their not saying anything like that so far. I put this at the end.
Zelda A Link to The Past (SNES): ON the back of the box it says you play as the predecessor's to the original Link & Zelda, hell the subtitle alone 'A Link to the Past' pretty much screams to me that yeah this is a prequel. But if you kill Ganon in the end how does he live for the later quests?? Wish I could have a scan ready for this but if I remember correctly the players guide to A Link to the Past says something like you won't be able to kill him, just trap him again (even had an illo of a ghost like Gannon confined in some weird see through pyramid) but I also read that as a kid 10+ years ago, can anybody confirm? My only explanation, pretty loose I know. Anyway its a prequeal to the original NES Zelda's to me. Also says in both the manual and the title screen movie that Ganon has been in the Sacred Realm for a long time, he was imprisoned there by 7 sages long time ago, has to resort to using his puppet Agahnim(sp) to do stuff in the light/real world like kidnap Zelda. YOu with the help of the ancestors of those 7 sages break a important seal then later you kill Ganon, again with Silver Arrows and powered up Master Sword. So yeah, obviously a sequeal to the events of Ocarina of Time. I think this Link is known as Link of Hyrule
Link's Awakening: can't really place the chronology here, obviously Ocarina of Time & Wind Waker not created yet so it's impossible for Nintendo to have based this Link on at this point in time, but I've seen some fans put some interesting theories explaining just that. Personally I put this off to the side and don't try to explain it since there's little anchoring this dream in reality, but this Link appears to be visually based off SNES version. Hell there are Mario Bros Goomba's, Mario World Feather and even a Mario-lookalike here. Kinda feel they don't care about the 4th wall sometimes.
Zelda The Ocarina Of Time (N64): Ganon starts human, gets triforce for first time (or atleast just the essence of the Power Triforce), gets sealed away by 7 sages, gets imprisoned saying I'll go after your descendents. Obviously comes first, but its alitte weird in that you defeat Ganon in the future, get sent to the past where Ganon should still be alive and well causing havok.. but apparenlty not. Guess this Link is Link of Kokori being he was raised as one.
Zelda Majora's Mask (N64): comes after Ocarina of time, same model for Link and Termina is a alternate world of Ocarina of Time's Hyrule, goes without saying its the same Link.
Zelda Oracle of Ages/Season (GBA): yeah..Nintendo's been very loose keeping the timeline straight but these games just prove to me that just release these games and care about the storyline in afterthought or not at all. Not only do none of these games take place in Hyrule (away from the very legends and landmarks to chronolize it with), this new version of Impa is big and fat and healthy, Zelda looks virtually identical to her N64 versions, Twinrova from the chronologically first Zelda game appears here and according to http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/gbc/b/zeldaa_b.htm http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/gbc/b/zeldas_b.htm
the Ganon you fight isn't Ganon, but a mindless shell of. He's dead and Twinrova's planning on using Zelda as a sacrifice to resurrect Ganon's dead ass. But Twinrova sisters should be dead themselves by the time Ganon is either Dead or trapped in the Sacred Realm, in ANY timeline. So yeah.. by looks alone its probably the Link from the N64 versions, released before these so its natural to think they're based of it, but the timeline just seems to be wack so I don't know where to put it. Seems more like a fun side story with the reocurring main characters than any carefully thought out piece in the timeline.
Wind Waker: also wack to me, don't know where to put it except after the N64 versions but before the NES versions. ONly thing to really mention is that at the very end Tetra(Zelda descendent) being in a world that seems like endless oceans says something like "we can find it, the land that will be the next hyrule!" where the Red King replies "but that land won't be Hyrule, it will be _your_ land"
>_< don't know where to put it. Discuss.
Oh yeah, don't forget these game creators are human and whatever, from what I hear the Zelda games are created with gameplay in mind then a story is created around that. Also, just to throw something in the mix hear before Ocarina of Time came out it was told to be the last Zelda, that definetly changed. There was also talk of a _4th_ triforce.. all that's left of that is the upside down triangle on Link's shield as it seems to have gotten cut from Ocarina of Time Along with the beam sword & Triforce (which I hear you can see under Hyrule Castle with a glitch).
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Blah2004-12-25 12:09
I prefer to think Link's Awakening is the same Link as Link to the Past. He just remembers what Hyrule looks like, and pieces of it manifest in his dream, which is why the map looks so similar. Others claim its after Zelda II simply because he's "on a raft," but that's horse hockey.
What I don't understand is how Link and Zelda keep having younger descendants that look like eacher and eventually have descendants of their own that do the same. Sure, there's several generation differences, but you're still getting a msessed up family tree. Damn inbreeding elf hippies. At least it explains the Wind Waker.
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Otacon2004-12-25 12:47
>1
The "Triforce under Hyrule Castle" thing is so bullshit. It's only a flat texture, and I suspect that it is used on the hands of 10 yo Link and/or Zelda for the cutscene there(it's in the castle garden).
It could be something they removed, but it's really highly doubtful.
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Anonymous2004-12-25 13:46 (sage)
I can't believe you retards are trying to stick the zelda games in a timeline when it's pretty blatantly clear that nobody else gives half a fuck about it, including Nintendo :|
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Enner2004-12-25 19:20
>>4
It's just for fun, Anonymous. I'm sure nobody is stressing out over it and are just doing it for leisure.
I think the timeline you made here queazy!shaia is pretty good and what I would put it in if I were to put the games in an order.
Personally, I think the games are seperate from each other, ala Final Fantasy, except for when there is an obvious connection (eg. Ocarina of time, Majora's Mask).
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42004-12-25 19:44 (sage)
Whoops, didn't mean to sound overly hostile.
The more games they come out with the less clear the timeline is. All that should matter is that there is the hero Link, the princess Zelda, and the villain Ganon. To go further than that is a waste of time.
An interview with Miyamoto had him saying that most of the Link's are totally different, unrelated people. There is always a Hero, there is always a Link, but Link isn't related to any of the other incarnations... Kind of like choosing the *best* person of each time to become Link.
I think the same was supposed to go for Zelda, but she's a princess, so it's likely that it's just a royal name that's passed down through female descendants.
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Anonymous2004-12-26 13:30
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE QUARREL ABOUT SOMETHING THAT ALREADY HAS AN ANSWER!!?? GO TO THE SITE 7 GAVE GODAMMIT.
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Anonymous2004-12-26 14:12 (sage)
Quarreling is only natural when you're part of a royal line that has inbred for thousands of generations. Otherwise the hero Link won't save you.
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Anonymous2004-12-26 19:19
there have been no inbreds whatsoever in zelda timeline therefore 10 you fail.
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Blah2004-12-26 22:39
Of course they're inbred.
Link I rescues Zelda I. They have kids of Elvan descent (or whatever pointy eared race they actually are). Those kids spread throughout the land for generations, until one family branch has a son named Link, and another has a daughter named Zelda.
Link II rescues Zelda II, and they both fall madly in love, having even more children that spread across the land. Eventually, one of their offspring is named Link, and another Zelda.
Link rescues and marries Zelda, etc. Just as we originated from Adam and Eve to form many different people, so too did Link and Zelda. And because technically we're breeding within our own human bloodline, you have people born with birth defects on a daily basis.
In the future, around the time of The Adventure of Link, you see that the elves are the minority, and humans rule Northern Hyrule. The descendants of previous Links and Zeldas were not producing offspring in significant numbers, which is why Link, at the horny old age of 16, decides to recuse the princess now and get it over with.
And if you don't believe Link and Zelda actually get it on afterwards... are you implying that Link is gay? Are you saying he wouldn't fall in love with a hot attractive elfin girl that's been locked up for eight levels with no one to talk to? You, sir, are naive.
Further examples of descendants producing replicas of themselves within their own bloodline:
Ryu from BoF
Strider (Playstation)
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queazy2004-12-27 12:29
Dude, this is a video game forum board, were you expecting scientific breakthroughs or something?
And wow, I checked the site. Nintendo Of America Timeline, Miyamoto Timeline, Parallell Timeline Theory (OoT director said both adult/child Link have 2 different timeline endings or is this a misenterpertation?), continuity faq (says at the top no timeline has been explicitly stated by creators)... seems there's no real timeline. Like others and I mentioned already it seems Nintendo's making things up as they go without much care for the past's continuity, leaving little concrete evidence for a real working timeline.
But hey, didn't expect much different. Just wanted to hear what you all thought, spread ideas around see what might hold water or not.
Lastly anybody have scans of the old strategy guide for A Link to the Past? I remember that had some weird explanation to the backstory in that.
they never fall in love and they never have kids. 12, inventing fake stories to attempt to socialize with 4channers is entirely depressing. GTFO.
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Anonymous2005-01-01 11:09
Yes, a Link to the Past definitely comes before the first Legend of Zelda. This creates a timeline of
Link to the Past
Legend of Zelda
Adventure of Link
From then on there is no established timeline, but fans just assumed that Ocarina of Time was another "in the past" game from way before A Link to the Past. But this is never conformed.
Hey it looks like Minnish Cap will have the same Link and other characters from Oracle of Ages/Seasons, happening directly after it sometime. Malon, Talon, Dr. Left, Naryu a preistess from the land of Labrynna, Din a dancer from the land of Holodrum, Faroe.. then again they've also got tons of characters from Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask like Tingle bros., Anju, Gorman, Ingo, Happy Mask Salesman, Twinrova..
that site >16 linked to was pretty interesting. Obviously they treat canon to be what comes out of the instruction manuals, including their pictures, don't know where they got some of their pics as I've never seen em before. Maybe the japanese manuals? Real cool link, thanks
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AahpandasRun2005-01-03 1:49
The Zelda timeline from game to game doesn't make any sense, and there's gaping plotholes. Almost as bad as the mario timeline
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Anonymous2005-01-03 14:03
mario has a timeline?
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Anonymous2005-01-03 19:45
Yes. It starts with the ambiguous pre-Super Mario games- Donkey Kong, Mario Bros, Wrecking Crew, etc. These are given no time or place.
Then you have Mario 1, 2 (Japan), 2 (US), 3, and 4 which follows a linear timeline.
Yoshi's Island, however, is a prequel that explains Mario & Luigi being born from Mushroom Kingdom parents. This gets rid of the "they're really from Brooklyn" theory fans have used forever. Then, you have Shy Guys everywhere, even though they were supposed to appear first in Mario 2, so it implies Shy Guys were always in the real world, not just limited to the Dream World.
The first Mario Kart game has Donkey Kong Jr. Mario Kart 64 and Double Dash has the Donkey Kong Country version. So, somewhere between Mario 4 and DKC Donkey Kong Jr "grows up" into the DKC version. Remember, the original Donkey Kong is now Cranky Kong.
Next comes Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine.
Mario RPG, Mario & Luigi, and Paper Mario 1 & 2 are in more exclusive timelines. They could be called Gaidens, or even alternate realities, as they don't really fit in the main mario series.
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Kat Man Do2005-01-04 15:29
Honestly, I always saw the timeline as 1 said it. You had Ocarina of Time, which showed then that Ganondorf had humanity, Majora's Mask, which seemed to happen right afterwards, but kinda confused you, since Link was a child in this, or else it messed with his body. Then, you had a Link to the Past, explaining the sages and such, and you don't kill Ganon in it. You just seal him away, I checked cause I have a save up to him ;). And the Adventure of Link has him dead, yeah. And you have Link 2, with him being ressurected. And then you have Wind Waker. It seems to be far in the future of what happened. Also, Ganondorf ressurects naturally in that, I believe. Reincarnation. So it seems to be in a chronological order to it all. Except the GBA games. If one was to think long enough, Link's awakening could have happened maybe after...Adventure of Link? It would explain his disappearance from the realm before the great flooding of hyruule. And Oracle of Ages/Seasons..maybe after MM? I dunno. I never played it. The Four Swords and the Minnish Cap I'm not even gonna touch. So that's what I think.
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Anonymous2005-01-05 12:35
>>20
Not to refute the rest of your post, but enemies from SMB2/SMBUSA have been in other games long before Yoshi's Island. Bob-Ombs, Ninji (those bouncing purple things), and Pokey have all appeared in games following SMB2 but preceeding SMW2. Ninji and Pokey had a color change, but still.
Trying to make sense of the Mario plotline is somewhat pointless, however, since Miyamoto has stated that he doesn't want the Mario series to gain any sort of complex plot. There's also plenty of other stuff that doesn't add up (Just wtf is up with the Mushroom Kingdom/Beanbean Kingdom exchange rate? Princess Peach needs to whip the economy in gear or something).
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禿笑2005-01-05 13:14
異国の地!c(℃゚c)アメリカ
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Draco_Obscura2005-01-07 4:46
>>8 I think you've mostlygot it right. It's not that they're unrelated really, their just reincarnations of the hero, the princess and the villian, except in special instances. Link's Awakening is outside, could have happened to any of the Link's theoretically. Majora's Mask is a direct sequel to the Young Link storyline from Ocarina of Time. Windwaker seems to be a sequel to the Adult Link storyline of Ocarina of Time
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Anonymous2005-10-24 8:13
The only real dispute with this is how the timeline is set up. The only ones who refuse the idea of a timeline and multiple Links are those in denial of the fact that they've been arguing for many years only to have Aonuma break them down, or that Aonuma has any clout in these decisions.
If I can recall correctly, A Link to the Past does NOT take place after Loz and AoL - at least, that is not proven. Apparently (I say apparently because I do not have a definite source), the webmaster of Zelda.com mistranslated Miyamoto. I believe that's the same situation with The Wind Waker's placement, in regard to how long after Ocarina of Time it was. It was mistranslated as one century, but was mistranslated as many centuries (or did I mix those up? It's been a long time).
However, what we can establish is Ocarina of Time is a part of the beginning. But not the beginning, mind you. Apparently (there's safety), in an interview with Aonuma, he confirmed that The Minish Cap predates all Zeldas. That would make sense - the White Sword was created here, Pegasus Boots, and Link learned all of his techniques from Swiftblade. In regard to Four Sword and FSA, I can say that FS is definitely after TMC, but before FSA, and while FS can be before OoT, FSA cannot, for the obvious reason, that Ganon exists, in pig form no less, with his trident in hand (and since he does not seem to use a trident until LttP, which is clearly after TMC, OoT, MM, TP and TWW, we have to assume that this is some time after LttP, but before AoL, as he is long dead). So we can establish this:
#1. The Minish Cap
#2. Ocarina of Time
#3. Majora's Mask
#4. Twilight Princess
#5. The Wind Waker
Assuming the Aonuma interview about TMC does exist, this list up here cannot be doubted. Whether or not any other games, such as FS, might fit there, is unknown.
Link's Awakening is clearly a sidestory to LttP. Ganon was vanquished, that rules out OoT. This was done in Hyrule, that rules out OoS and OoA. One of the nightmares was Ganon, in pig form, with trident, and various others are Lanmola, Agahnim and Moldorm - all of which were bosses in LttP. The nightmares were either Link's or the Wind Fish's nightmares, and I have doubts that the Wind Fish had nightmares about Agahnim, Ganon, Lanmola or Moldorm. Since this was Link's dream as well as the Wind Fish's, they would most likely be his nightmares, and no Link could actually have nightmares about every single one of those enemies. The only one that can come close is the Link of OoS/A - Vire, Ganon and Agahnim all appear in Labrynna/Holodrum, but as stated earlier, Link's rafting trip was from Hyrule, not anywhere else.
So, we can conclude the five listed above, and that LttP is directly connected to LA.
As for OoS/A, there are far too many inconsistensies to have this be any single Link. For one, Ganon does not have ashes, and is merely a spirit. What are these lands? Alternate dimensions like Termina, or lands that any Hyrulian could visit? If so, I'd find it odd to be Talon, go over to Holodrum and run into myself. For another, the Triforce is assembled. That indicates that it either predates LttP, or AoL, the only times the Triforce is ever intact.
So, we can establish that the Oracles can be no earlier than LttP.
As for LoZ and AoL, my knowledge on them is a pinch rusty, so you will have to bear with me. From what I can remember in past debates, there is a lot of evidence to show that LoZ and AoL are definitely late in the series.
So, I personally cannot conclude this, but it's my personal opinion that they are correctly placed at the end.
Here is how I view the timeline. I am omitting anything I'm not sure on.
#1. The Minish Cap
#2. Ocarina of Time -Future plot splits to Twilight Princess-
#3. Majora's Mask
Split: Ocarina of Time
#1. Twilight Princess
#2. The Wind Waker
#3. A Link to the Past
#4. Link's Awakening
#5. The Legend of Zelda
#6. Adventure of Link
Unsure: Four Swords Adventure and Four Swords. For one, Four Swords could actually be part of the first split - the actions of The Minish Cap predate the split, after all. Four Swords Adventures, however, would most likely be placed in the future split, as Ganon is in pig form. Theoretically, the two games could be the same storyline, but just with different circumstances. Perhaps both of them happened, and technically, Vaati was only released once, but twice (once as in they both happened in different realities).
*phew* This is kinda fun, though tiresome. o.o
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ALttP2005-10-24 8:33
Erm, may I reply with my proper name applied, to the first post, that is?
The Legend of Zelda must post-date LttP. It is impossible for it to not post-date it, because the Silver Arrows were created in LttP! And along with it taking place after LttP, that alone makes it impossible for there to be only two Triforce pieces known, as they knew about all three in A Link to the Past! The first Link ever to grace the screens was clearly holding the Triforce of Courage, but was too young to become a Hero (just like young Link of OoT fame). When he became sixteen, the mark appeared.
And allow me to clarify - A Link to the Past was renamed for the American release. Its original title was Triforce of the Gods. While it does not say Goddesses, a friend told me that Japan doesn't differentiate between God and Goddess.
In regard to The Wind Waker, it has obvious connections with OoT. The Hero of Time returned to his original time - that clears up which hero was not to be found when Ganon returned, as shown in TWW. He went back in time, and left THAT land. So, we can say that TWW is definitely after OoT, and directly related.
Wheee. c_c
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Anonymous2005-10-24 15:06 (sage)
You know what? This truly is a retarded thread. Except for the first post, which has a sense of childlike enthusiasm.
Give up on the timeline already.
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ALttP2005-10-24 16:04
Nah. o.o
There is a timeline. They have said that there is one already.
Yes, there is. There was a discussion to rename it to Legend of Zelda series (the article title, that is)! Silly, ain't it?
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Anonymous2005-10-24 20:00
Miyamoto said there was on, but never backed it up. WIdely regarded as something he made up on the spot.
The only way this series would make sense in any way is if Link, Zelda, and Ganon were constantly reincarnated.
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ALttP2005-10-24 23:08
Aonuma said that "they have a file cabinet full of timeline information".
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Anonymous2006-11-24 0:18
Interesting, I was just something similar to this. But seeing as how this thread is here. I'll tack it here.
In OoT, how does Link and the sages sealing Ganondorf away in the future help Hyrule in the past? If anything, it only guarantees that his tyranny would end after seven years. Adding to the confusion is how OoT ends, Link leaves to search for Navi, leading to the events of MM. The point is: Hyrule still has seven years of hell to go through, regardless whether or not Link took care of Ganon in the future.
Further adding to the confusion is how OoT ends, child Link going off in search of Navi, leading to the events of MM. Granted, Link has sevens years to return from his adventures in Termina and save Hyrule. But the OoT ending and MM violate the fact that Link was sealed away for seven years by the Master Sword. So how could all of this have happened?
Zelda sent Link back, but to where, and when? If she sent him back before he opened the Door of Time and grabbed the Master Sword, we run into the Grandfather paradox. If she sent him back to any point in time after this event, Ganondorf is still in the Sacred Realm obtaining the Triforce of Power. And sending him to the future is pointless. The answer doesn't seem obvious, unless (pardon the pun) she divided by zero.
One possibility is that she sent him to the exact moment after he grabbed the Master Sword and Ganondorf entered the Sacred Realm but before the sword sealed him away. This allows speculation that by doing this, she somehow locked Ganon away before he could start trouble. This is highly unlikely, as this would conflict with Twilight Princess and Wind Waker. So we're left back where we started.
Another point to bring up, if Link is sent back in time seven years, and assuming that Hyrule is still screwed for at least that long, how does this keep Link from getting mongled by a Triforce of Power bearing Ganondorf? The Hero of Time wielding the Master Sword is the only thing that can ultimately deal with the King of Evil, but child Link is too young to do so, as seen before. So we have another interesting problem.
Not only does this affect Link, but what about Zelda? Unlike Link, we don't know if she had an artifact that would allow her to travel through time both ways with impunity, actually let me put it this way, past Zelda would have no knowledge of what happened in the future, whereas Link does because of the Master Sword. So here's another conundrum.
I would love to continue further, but I think I've made my point. Nintendo says that they're trying to connect all the Zelda games into one storyline, chronologically and otherwise. But maybe they should be focusing solving this major hurdle to continuity first, then focus on how to connect each game to the other in a way that makes sense.
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Anonymous2006-11-25 1:21
One of the ways Nintendo could explain the paradox is as follows:
Link grabs the Master Sword and is sealed away for seven years while Ganondorf rapes Hyrule. Ganon is later sealed with the physical Triforce within the Sacred Realm by Zelda. Zelda then sends Link back in time, and the Sages are released from the Sacred Realm (thereby revealing that the Kokiri could indeed leave the forest should they so desire). This is what we all agree happened.
First I’ll explain the easy stuff. Link would of course remember all the events because he had the Master Sword and traveled through time by himself. Zelda could because she is not only a sage, but also possesses the essence of the Triforce of Wisdom. The Sages would because they're the Sages, like Zelda.
Now for the interesting part. It's possible that Zelda didn't seal the Ganon of the future, but rather the Ganon as he entered the Sacred Realm in the past. As in as soon as Link took possession of the Master Sword. In other words, Zelda sealed the opening to the Sacred Realm as soon as Ganon entered. Ganon fading away could be interpreted as his future self disappearing because time healed as the ruined Hyrule timeline vanished. Yet with the essence of the Triforce of Power, he too would remember those seven years of rule, as well as his defeat. The Sages returning to Hyrule could also be interpreted as time healing itself to close any possible rifts. After all, if Ganon was never able to leave the Sacred Realm, then they would never have entered.
However, because Link was himself a temporal anomaly (while he DID grow-up for seven years after first removing the sword, he later caused and created events only possible by traveling between the past Hyrule and the ruined Hyrule), he wouldn't simply fade away like Hyrule would (to be replaced with a future Hyrule without ever being ruled by Ganon). So, Zelda sent Link back in time, reverted as a child, to live-out the life he should have. Zelda wouldn't have to worry about herself though, because as a resident of the future timeline being destroyed, she'd simply vanish. In this scenario, child Zelda would remember Link simply because of the essence of the Triforce of Wisdom (as the final shot of Link re-visiting Zelda possibly indicated), or Zelda MAY remember everything via precognitive dreams that informed her of the now-destroyed alternate reality.
You may have noticed how I brought-up time healing itself to prevent paradoxes. This is something the game strongly hinted at. An example would be the Music Man in the windmill. His future self taught Link the Song of Storms, which Link used seven years in the past, directly causing the events in the future that lead to the Music Man teaching Link the song. This in itself is a paradoxial loop. However, time allowed it because it could not cause any damage to Time itself.
So what it boils down to is this: If Zelda closed the portal to the Sacred Realm as of 7 years after its opening, then Hyrule is fucked thanks to Time Paradox. If, however, she closed the portal as soon as Ganon first entered, then no paradox would occur. Rather, a possible future timeline would simply vanish, and sending Link back in time (as the only who who is a time paradox in himself due to his time-traveling) would ensure that the alternate timeline wouldn't have a possibility of being re-opened.
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Anonymous2006-11-25 1:39
>>1
But if he was still imprisoned in a alternate world by the sages, then how come in "Wind Waker" he comes back but gets turned into stone during Hyrule's apocalypse?
Link and Zelda are constantly reincarnated without past memories, but Ganon is the same guy, eternal thanks to the Triforce of Power.
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Anonymous2006-11-25 12:47
>>34
By jove, you've single-handedly fixed the Zelda time-line!
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Anonymous2011-08-07 11:11
Interesting conversation
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BmanNintendo2011-08-07 13:14
>>38
It's too damn loooonnnnnngggg. :<
(I can clearly see why I stayed away from Zelda games.YEEEESH!)
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Anonymous2011-08-07 15:51
REAL Zelda chrnology:
Zelda 1 - Nintendo invents a stupid game called Zelda.
Zelda 2 - As Zelda was a success, Nintendo crams out a stupid sequel, set AFTER Zelda 1.
Zelda 3 - As Zelda 2 was a success as well, Nintendo cram out ANOTHER sequel, but reason that as Link would have the triforces and be almighty at the end of Zelda 2, it's going to be a pre-...quel...-thing. It makes for an oblivious Link, but Nintendo ends up having no idea about the ending, and let's the Master Sword "sleep FOREVER" in the very end. They FUCKED UP, and fan boys start to cry as their perception of fantasy reality starts to crumble.
Zelda 4 - As Zelda 3 was such a success, Nintendo crams out Zelda 4, but at this point they don't give a FUCK about the time line, so they just put Link somewhere, Zelda somewhere, and Ganon somewhere, and call it Zelda, just like they did with Supoer Mario "Bros" 2. They FUCKED little boys up the ASS with their corporate dick, while to this DAY these boys STILL go "The timeline is still good! The timeline is still good!" trying to preserve their retarded innocence.
Zelda 5 - Zelda 4 was a success, so Nintendo whips out the corporate dick yet again, and implants Link, Zelda and Ganon is ANOTHER completely unreelated game.
Zelda 6 - Zelda 5 was a success, so out whips Nintendos dick again...
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Zelda 13035 - As long as there will be games to steal, Nintendo can STILL make a fucking Zelda game. At some point Link will turn gay, and Zelda will be his caring mom, but that's okay, because "the timeline is still good". It's not as if they're just names slapped on a game to sell it.
Suck Nintendo COCK!
You can't base a timeline around a guy dressed in green with no voice or personality. And like dumbass Link, Hyrule is whatever the writers of those games think up for each game and they don't care if you ask questions. >:
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Zelda sucks GO COD BO2011-08-08 18:30
Zelda sucks in everything play COD BO that is a action game stragey game and a better game than anyothergame inthe world
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Zelda sucks GO COD BO2011-08-08 18:30
Zelda sucks in everything play COD BO that is a action game stragey game and a better game than anyothergame inthe world
REAL Zelda chrnology:
Zelda 1 - Nintendo invents a stupid game called Zelda.
Zelda 2 - As Zelda was a success, Nintendo crams out a stupid sequel, set AFTER Zelda 1.
Zelda 3 - As Zelda 2 was a success as well, Nintendo cram out ANOTHER sequel, but reason that as Link would have the triforces and be almighty at the end of Zelda 2, it's going to be a pre-...quel...-thing. It makes for an oblivious Link, but Nintendo ends up having no idea about the ending, and let's the Master Sword "sleep FOREVER" in the very end. They FUCKED UP, and fan boys start to cry as their perception of fantasy reality starts to crumble.
Zelda 4 - As Zelda 3 was such a success, Nintendo crams out Zelda 4, but at this point they don't give a FUCK about the time line, so they just put Link somewhere, Zelda somewhere, and Ganon somewhere, and call it Zelda, just like they did with Supoer Mario "Bros" 2. They FUCKED little boys up the ASS with their corporate dick, while to this DAY these boys STILL go "The timeline is still good! The timeline is still good!" trying to preserve their retarded innocence.
Zelda 5 - Zelda 4 was a success, so Nintendo whips out the corporate dick yet again, and implants Link, Zelda and Ganon is ANOTHER completely unreelated game.
Zelda 6 - Zelda 5 was a success, so out whips Nintendos dick again...
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Zelda 13035 - As long as there will be games to steal, Nintendo can STILL make a fucking Zelda game. At some point Link will turn gay, and Zelda will be his caring mom, but that's okay, because "the timeline is still good". It's not as if they're just names slapped on a game to sell it.
Suck Nintendo COCK!