Hi everyone, I already have a list of components that a friend made for me. Could I get a list of all the things that I need to buy? I haven't ever made my own computer so I am not completely familiar with all the terminology, but I have been researching into all the new desktop gadgets.
My friend suggested I used newegg, but I found the same parts at Fry's for similar prices and the advantage of no shipping because I can just walk in and buy it.
Can you give me some advice about computer stores and things I should take into account?
I'm also not sure what kind of budget I should have for a standard gaming PC that will last me several years. I was thinking between 1,200-2,000 dollars.
I think I have come up with a good list of the necessary components. (Keep in mind I'm new at this so I don't understand all the components that make up a computer).
1. Monitor ;
2. Motherboard;
3. CPU (Microprocessor);
4. Primary storage (RAM);
5. Expansion cards;
a) Video Card
b) Sound Card
c) Network Card with WiFi
6. Power supply;
7. Optical disc drive;
8. Secondary storage (Hard disk);
9. Keyboard;
10. Mouse
11. Case
12. Speakers
13. Other peripherals
Just the parts he suggested is +2,000 dollars so I am thinking that there are a lot of parts that are more expensive than I require for a decent computer. Could someone explain some of the terminology? I know I need a motherboard that has the compatible slots and that putting the computer is as easy as putting the cards into the parts that fit I think. What's with the PCI, SLI, LGA, ATX, and 680i? I think that they all stand for card slots, except for the 680i I can't figure out what that is supposed to mean.
Sorry for the long post. If this is a bad place to ask for computer advice could someone please redirect me to somewhere that wouldn't mind helping me? Thanks in advance and please no trolling. I won't respond to it and it's just a waste of everyone's time.
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Anonymous2008-01-02 18:56
You're building a desktop, but want a network card with wifi. Are you, perchance, some type of faggot?
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Anonymous2008-01-02 19:10
>>2
Why do you suggest this? My modem is downstairs and my room is upstairs. How could an ethernet connection be easily possible?
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Anonymous2008-01-02 19:31
>>3 >>2
Also, I don't see any problem with wifi, network speeds seem to be similar and allows for computers to be connected anywhere in the house. I know ethernet is theoretically faster and more reliable, but wifi seems good enough?
>>5
I still don't see the advantage to doing so? I like being able to use the TV that is in my room.
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Anonymous2008-01-03 1:52
Bump. More advice please.
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Anonymous2008-01-03 2:56
Try it. Should be ok. However if you're unlucky, you'll get a lot of trouble that's hard as shit to debug. I've seen really slow connections between clients while at the same time, the speed of the internet connection for each individual client was very good. And vice versa. Also, random interruptions of the connection (every few minutes); try completing a download that way.
Looks like some hardware just has problems with certain other hardware. I can't explain it any other way any more. Linksys doesn't particularly seem to like AVM for example.
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Anonymous2008-01-03 3:39
>>8
Really? I haven't ever heard of hardware not working for random reasons. Generally I would think building a computer should work better and cost less than buying it premade.
I kinda dislike the idea of spending so much money into something that might not work or something though. xD
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Anonymous2008-01-03 4:47
most 22 inch monitors are 1650x1050 (or so) resolution. That's the same as a 20" for a much higher price. Either get a 20 incher and save some money, or go for the 23 inch for slightly more money and MANY more pixels.
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Anonymous2008-01-03 4:57
Also, nix the Raidmax thing. You don't need it. Also, nix the logitech stuff. Just use the mouse and keyboard you're using now, or get some out of a dumpster; you don't need uber shit unless you're a xhardxcorex gamer.
There are also some really good video cards you could get for much cheaper that are only slightly slower. Just make sure it's got GDDR3.
You could probably find some cheaper ram that has the same speed ratings as what you've got; that corsair crap is usually for overclockers. You don't sound like the kind of person who enjoys fucking with computers for a shitload of time for little gain, so just go with the cheap stuff.
Also, I doubt you'll need that 600 watt power supply, but let that be the last thing you cut back on. I can tell you that having a good power supply will help you avoid some really weird problems that are difficult to troubleshoot.
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Anonymous2008-01-03 5:00
I'd also get just a 250gb or smaller hard disk. It's usually better to keep drives you install your OS on small, they get read from/written to so much that their likelihood of failure is much higher. If you have to store tons of videos, get a big drive and use it as a slave, or get an exteral USB/FireWire/eSATA enclosure.
It sucks when your main drive that had years and years of data on it just suddenly decides out of the blue to crash on you.
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Anonymous2008-01-03 7:00
Hey,
Currently the /b/ linux project (lulznix) is looking for programmers and graphics artists to help with the latest project.
Even if you arnt that good with either, still try and give it a shot or post some ideas.
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>I haven't ever heard of hardware not working for random reasons.
Then you haven't been in the business for long.
As for myself, I know very well why I went through the trouble of putting CAT-5 cables through my place. A number of people I know are having trouble with their wireless stuff every now and then. Not all of them, sure. But enough to have made me not take any risks.
>>13
Anything that has the word "lulz" in it is bound to - no wait, has already failed.
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Anonymous2008-01-03 20:36
>>14
Well, seriously I haven't ever taken the time to make my own computer and only recently have I become able to have my own money to do this sort of thing. What would you do in the instance your parts don't work together? I thought they were made to work together with other parts and it would be a bad company that made something that didn't work.
I have been using wireless for several years and haven't seen any issues with it. Cat-5 is definitely more reliable, but it would be irritating to get a whole household hooked up by Ethernet.
>>12 >>11
Thanks for the suggestions. Can anyone suggest a good case? All I can find is flashy crap that is more expensive than I need. I'd like a standard case that I remember towers used to be in, but I can't find any like that.
Can someone give me a good estimation how much money I should spend on making my own computer? The Dell XPS 720 costs about 1,499 without a monitor. That's ridiculously overpriced I think. I think I should be able to make a pretty awesome computer for about 1,000? I dunno, thanks for your posts everyone. Does anyone have any links to other places that would be advantageous for making my own computer? All I can find on google is pretty much crap. I need more friends who are good with computers I think... More posts please anyone.
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Anonymous2008-01-04 3:54
Well, if you already have a relatively decent computer with power supply, optical and acceptable hard disks, you can expect to pay around 300 dollars for a decent $1,000 range prebuilt PC.
That's for processor, RAM, motherboard and video Card.
The real way you save money on building your own computer is by using what you already have and building on that.
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Anonymous2008-01-04 11:44
>>16
I have a laptop right now, so I have no computer to build from. What is the best thing to do in that situation? I think the motherboard is the thing I want right the most because everything else fits into that. Dell isn't very specific with their hardware and I don't think it's the best deal I could do, but I wanted some advice from people who have already done this.
But yeah, I have a laptop right now that's starting to get really old (more than 3 years old) and I'd prefer to have a desktop replacement for it.
The biggest thing I want to know is where I should buy from and how should I plan it? It's easy to buy the wrong parts and this is expensive.
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Anonymous2008-01-04 12:58
>>17
If you do buy a complete system, don't get a Dell. You can get similar performance and at least similar quality (probably besser) for a better price from a number of other companies.
If you want to build a computer yourself and have next to zero experience with it, why not take a knowledgable friend with you. Tell him what you expect, search for hardware together, have him explain why he would choose this over that, ask questions. As thanks, invite him to dinner/drink. That way you gain experience without risking too much.
Can you tell me the companies I should shop at? There are some I've noticed that are out just to rip you off. I feel like Best Buy is a good example of this, with very overpriced merchandise.
I don't feel like I have many friends who are more knowledgeable with computers than me. I know some that are perhaps knowledgeable, but they seem to buy all the overpriced stuff that I think is unnecessary for a decent gaming and regular use computer. Many would just buy from dell and I don't think that is a good idea. Some would buy from some of the random companies that build computers for you, I don't think this is a good idea either? I'm pretty good with computers, I've just never taken the time to build one before.
Would anyone have any recommended forums or would mind chatting on AIM or something to discuss this? Sorry for bugging you all with my random questions.
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Anonymous2008-01-04 17:30
>>18
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