I'll start this GIMPlog which I'll be updating every time I'm forced to do something with GIMP and find the interface sucks. I don't use GIMP when I need to do serious image editing, but sometimes I need to fix or retouch something and I don't want to switch to Windows for Paint Shop Pro X. Note: I won't list each annoyance more than once, even if it annoys the hell out of me every day in my life.
Using GIMP 2.2.8.
Editing a key icon:
- It seems the only way to substract from an existing selection will force you to select radially, i.e. select from the center, then create a rectangle by moving to one corner, while you can add to a selection in both ways; this one, and the sane, intuitive one.
- I picked the Crop tool, and clicked on the image to crop it. Instead of the crop, a fugly window popped in. I had to stop dragging to move that crap away.
- When cropping, instead of making you move the crop selection intuitively (just like a regular selection) as it works in PSP, you have to use the top-right and bottom-left corners. As a consequence, you can only resize your crop from the top-left and bottom-right corners. Another bad decision.
- To write this GIMPlog, I'm using a maximized Kate, a fine, sane, modern, customizable editor. When I Alt-Tabbed from GIMP to the editor to write another log entry and went back to the image, I was reminded why non-docked interfaces like GIMP's blow: I had to rescue every fucking window because they had been all hidden and Alt-Tabbing to the image wouldn't restore them. At least they could have made these windows to automatically pop in, as undocked PSP windows would. Oh, and as an extra bonus, my taskbar is spammed with GIMP's windows.
- Now for some reason my GIMP seems to be broken. When I select and hit Ctrl+C, it hangs. I would understand if Klipper, for example, got in the way, but GIMP (or rather the X clipboard) sucks so much GIMP has its own, incompatible, private clipboard, so I don't know what could go wrong. I'll have to look into it.
Editing star ranking icons:
- Argh, the GNOME file selector!
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Anonymous2006-09-22 14:44
Newer version out. Though I doubt they had fixed your usablity issues. Post your annoyance list on Download.com where millions of people will read it and be saved from the headache.
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Anonymous2006-09-22 17:09
non-docked interfaces like GIMP's blow
Try GIMPShop
- Can't make the toolbar too thin to accomodate it properly and don't waste visual space. These damned color selection boxes are causing it. Horizontally, it's a shameful waste of space. Vertically, it needs to have at least three columns. Consequently, you can't see your toolbar at the same time as the image you're editing unless you have 2 monitors or you're willing to sacrify 15% of your screen.
- Also, GIMP insists that the toolbox window must be placed elegantly in the middle of the screen every time I open it. It must be very proud of it.
- Can't paste as new image with no images open. I have an image from other application in the clipboard and I can't paste it without creating a new image.
- When using the color picker, I was picking a color and right in front of where I clicked, another ugly window pops in. This is similar to what happens when cropping. The GIMP deveopers seem to love windows, but creating windows in the middle of an action is braindead. Either you create it when you pick the tool (still somewhat bad, acceptable if there's a lot to show), or use the tool options area or the statusbar.
- When you're cropping, if you accidentally click in the selected area, bam, it gets cropped, and there's no way to avoid it (not even dragging outside it).
- Undo crop won't restore your crop selection (even with the crop tool enabled), so you have to select it again. When you want it precise, it gets annoying.
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Anonymous2006-09-26 10:41
Quit bitching... it's free. If you don't like it, buy Photoshop.
I always laugh when people compare GIMP to Photoshop. It can't even compare to PSP with an interface that's worse than Paint.Net.
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Anonymous2006-09-26 13:31
mspaint owns gimp any day
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Anonymous2006-09-26 13:50
just use opera u fagets
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Anonymous2006-09-26 18:35
open opera
g mininova
s photoshop
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Anonymous2006-09-26 19:09
anyone who doesn't make and modify images with a hex editor is gay
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Anonymous2006-09-26 19:18
Imagemagick > the Gimp. And since the Gimp is the only reason to run X in the first place, that solves many problems. (Well ratpoison is kinda acceptable but a needless waste of cpu nonetheless)
But I'll admit that I never got Photoshop to work well with a stock install of Wine, and I really can't be bothered. I prefer to stick in Windows and forget I have a linux partition.
- Why do I have to deal with layer sizes? The software should do this for me. In particular, I see no point in making evident to the user that a layer is smaller than the canvas, let alone fucking him for that.
- HSB vs. HSL. This is debatable/flammable and it can be argued that HSB has one advantage, but instead of following Adobe and ancient software on this, I'd rather use the HSL colour space, as done in Paint Shop Pro. Here's why it's better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HLS_color_space#Comparison_of_HSL_and_HSV
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Anonymous2006-10-11 22:02
Just got 2.2.13. Let see if it sucks.
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Anonymous2006-10-12 2:08
GIMP is so laughable, and the GIMP developers are smug pricks. Why hasn't someone forked GIMP already? Sure there's GIMPShop but all it does is change the UI, which is nice, but there are no other added features.
Pixel [http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/] continues its slow development, and it looks like it will be promising *in the future*. The problem is, it's being coded by ONE guy, so its development has always been pretty slow. I mean, it's been in development for almost 10 years, and it's only at Beta 6 right now. I haven't tried the latest build out yet but I hope it keeps improving. It might not be free, but I can either shell out $100 for Pixel's features, or settle for GIMP's headaches for free.
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Anonymous2006-10-12 2:13
>>20
My bad, Pixel is currently $32, 1.0 Final will be $79.
I can hear the hardline FLOSS faggots declaring their intent to shun Pixel now, but then again none of those assholes know shit about what makes a good art-centric app. Those of us who know what the fuck we're doing will gladly buy Pixel and tell the GIMP-pricks to go fuck themselves.
Exactly what I was thinking! Too bad I can't program.
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Anonymous2006-10-12 16:03
>>22
Same here. Too bad most of us artfag types can't program :/
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Anonymous2006-10-12 16:09
The maintainer of the GIMPlog is actually a developer, but he does not have the time to fork GIMP and he's lazy.
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Anonymous2006-10-12 18:55
Adobe Photoshop is good enough. You can pirate it when you're a kid, and then once you can bill for your work, it becomes dirt cheap.
The GIMP is made by tasteless nerds for tasteless nerds. It has only two advantages over photoshop:
- Price (pirates and people earning money with photoshop won't care)
- Freedom (lol communist hippies)
We won't ever see a fork geared towards real-world usage, because many parts of the GIMP are no longer fixable, even if you are willing to get rid of a lot of its legacy.
Posting in a truthful thread. All you Gimpfags are delusional if you think Gimp is equivalent to Photoshop. Moar liek MS Paint.
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Anonymous2007-01-23 4:15
- Is it just me, or is GIMP absolutely useless to draw geometric shapes? I had to draw a circle, and I had to use a fucking selection and flood fill to do that! This is really braindead.
- GIMP feels as if it were designed to be different to existing software on purpose. It looks like they went really out of their way just to not be like Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro. Same GNOME retardedness. Different doesn't mean better, and if it's not better, different is usually worse because you waste your time.
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Anonymous2007-01-23 21:25
GIMP feels as if it were designed to be different to existing software on purpose.
Indeed. If you point that out, the pro-GIMP side will say, "But it's not Photoshop so it shouldn't have to look like it". Too bad it doesn't look like 99.9 % of the image editors out there either.
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Anonymous2007-01-23 22:04
The Gimp is fine. It's almost as good as Photoshop and it's easier to download and quicker to install. Come on, nothing is even a close third. There's gimp and photoshop. That's it. mspaint is probably the closest third.
Anyone who tries to say paint shop pro, go kill yourself. Now.
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Anonymous2007-01-23 22:42
It's almost as good as Photoshop
Almost?
I suppose it has most of the same functionality, at least for RGB. It arguably has the worst usability of any well-known raster editor though. Considering that nobody is funding usability studies, this probably shouldn't be a surprise.
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Anonymous2007-01-24 7:16
It's almost as good as Photoshop...
Talk about an overstatement.
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Anonymous2007-01-24 7:40
Gimp is hamstrung but what has to be the worst user interface ever conceived.
I got tired of fooling with it and installed Photoshop 7 via WINE.
>>33 The Gimp is fine.
Lol, in 4 words you already said you don't do anything serious with regards to image editing.
It's almost as good as Photoshop
Yeah, keep dreaming. For a MSPAINT.EXE replacement, yes, GIMP is almost as good as Photoshop... or not even that, because the interface just plain sucks. And when you need to get real work done, well...
it's easier to download
I'll accept that, since you don't have to pirate it.
Come on, nothing is even a close third. There's gimp and photoshop. That's it. mspaint is probably the closest third.
You are stupid. Photoshop >= Paint Shop Pro (which has an even better/more productive interface, better terminology, and vector drawing) >> Krita > GIMP > Paint.NET > MSPAINT.EXE
>>34 I suppose it has most of the same functionality, at least for RGB.
Only if you count pixel editing a way to do the same than you do with Photoshop's tools.
It arguably has the worst usability of any well-known raster editor though.
It has worse usability than other, fairly unknown raster editors as well.
Considering that nobody is funding usability studies
It's not that hard to figure out a good interface as long as you have common sense and have been using something similar. The problem comes when the GNOME/GNAA hippies work so hard to be different like idiots. That's why GIMP fails, and that's why the simplest things in GNOME (common dialogs) fail. Ooooh, but it's GNAA/file selector, not Microsoft file selector! Yours is similar to Microsoft, you... imperialist! Damn hippies.
Photoshop >= Paint Shop Pro (which has an even better/more productive interface, better
terminology, and vector drawing) >> Paint.NET >= Krita > GIMP > MSPAINT.EXE
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Anonymous2007-01-25 5:17
MSPAINT.EXE > GIMP
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Anonymous2007-01-25 5:58
MAC > WINDOWS AND LOONIX FOR GRAFFIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anonymous2007-01-25 6:59
LOONIX > WONDOWS AND MOC FOR ANYTHING THAT MATTERS TO THE WORLD
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Anonymous2007-01-25 9:33
You fucktards, don't spoil my GIMPlog. This thread is for posting reasons why The GIMP sucks.
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Anonymous2007-01-25 10:26
>>44
Welcome to the 4chan text boards! Do you want some apple pie with that?
>>45
Yeah, I know what I said was virtually the same as "Please, do rape my thread". I'm ok with it, this is 4chan.
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Anonymous2007-01-25 17:57
>>47
you should've saged it then. no one would see it so no one would 4chan it
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Anonymous2007-01-26 5:29
- Today, I wanted to do some basic shit. Basically, captured the screen and pasted it into GIMP. For some reason, it hanged for like 30 seconds with the hourglass mouse cursor, then it did nothing. Oh, yeah, tried again. My GIMP broke.
- The stupid GIMP dialogs don't automatically accept by Enter, so if I create a new image and type in some dimensions, I can't hit OK by pressing Enter: I have to leave my keyboard, get my fucking mouse, and click OK. Naturally, buttons are reversed from anything that would make sense, just to be different from Windows (GNOMEfags). That's done so that you can hit the wrong button if you're in a hurry and lose work. Everything seems to be made so that you waste time on it.
lol at retards that can't learn a new user interface. friends of mine are graphics pros and they use gimp for image shoops and p'shop for other shit. its all tools, and if you knew what you were doing you'd use the most appropriate tool for the job instead of being a zealot.